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To: shubi
Apologies if you find my use of the word "creationist" offensive. I use it as a blanket term for those who deny science in order to believe in their religion. I am not referring to everybody who believes in divine creation (as I hope my posts make clear)

I managed to find the Augustinian quote that I referred to earlier.

"Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and distances,... and this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a Christian talk nonsense about such things, claiming that what he is saying is based in Scripture. We should do all that we can to avoid such an embarrassing situation, lest the unbeliever see only ignorance in the Christian and laugh to scorn."

-- St. Augustine, "De Genesi ad litteram libri duodecim" (The Literal Meaning of Genesis)

647 posted on 12/16/2004 4:43:34 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Thatcherite

No need to apologize. I am familiar with the Augustine quote. You see, many of the church fathers are ignored for the sake of keeping the cult alive. I think there may be some security in having this "mystic" agreement on hatred for science. It is somewhat like the various heresies the early church stamped out, like gnosticism etc. They "know" the truth and there ain't no one gonna convince em otherwise. ;-)


648 posted on 12/16/2004 5:13:13 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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