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To: Reuben Hick

Darwin proposed the theory of evolution to explain the diversity of species in the Families, Orders and Geni established by zoologists decades earlier. It provides evidence for how the process of evolution works, not why. Evolution does not (and cannot) explain how life originated. You're asking more of the theory than it can provide, something an honest scientist, or student of evolution would not do.


58 posted on 12/03/2004 1:06:38 AM PST by eagle11 (Once a people invents a word for "liberty", they are restless until they win if for themselves.)
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To: eagle11

"Darwin proposed the theory of evolution to explain the diversity of species in the Families, Orders and Geni established by zoologists decades earlier."

Yeah. So?

" It provides evidence for how the process of evolution works, not why."

Darwin did not know about genetics, but he speculated on it. He was close in some aspects. Darwin predicted the sort of mechanism genetics entails. Now with Mendel and DNA (Watson Crick) the why is pretty well understood.

" Evolution does not (and cannot) explain how life originated."

NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THAT THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION PROPOSES HOW LIFE ORIGINATED!!! WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS? Maybe your thick skulls are a speciation event. ;-)

" You're asking more of the theory than it can provide, something an honest scientist, or student of evolution would not do."

You're putting words in science mouth it did not say. I expect that from creationists. Lying for God won't get you very far with Him. Why can't you just admit that the silly literalist position is wrong? It would seem a lot simpler than taking untenable positions all the time, unless you have some financial incentive for promoting making God look powerless.


61 posted on 12/03/2004 3:58:54 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: eagle11
Darwin proposed the theory of evolution to explain the diversity of species in the Families, Orders and Geni established by zoologists decades earlier.

Interesting that taxonomy was introduced to the scientifc world by a Creationist, Carolus Linnaeus... Charles Darwin, hated Christianity and sought ways to destroy it - science via an agenda of hate is sure to lead to bad science. That is why "evolution" is not science nor does it adhere to scientific priciples

Evolution does not (and cannot) explain how life originated.

I see this claim all of the time, yet we all know that this is weasel language. Any discussion of evolution presumes a foundational background of cosmogony. Big Bang and God are mutually exclusive. Evolution and Creationism are mutually exclusive. If Evolution was only one attempt of many plausible attempts to "explain the diversity of species" then it would be treated that way. But take a look at the person like the one who started this thread - they treat it as a religion, a whole world view. Evolution willfully cripples itself by categorically denying Intelligent Design, never allowing anything that might point to a Creator. I would say that Evolution denies miracles, but it demands compound miracles: matter ex nihilo, order from chaos, information from no information, and a legal pad full of other necessary miracles. Why I say that your argument is weasel language is that in order to even take evolution as a possible explanation seriously, one has to fundamentally agree to a whole world view that is antagonistic to God, and given the history and the list of adherents to evolution, it is undeniable that those who find evolution plausible have a common contempt for God.

I understand many Christians who get sucked into the State sponsored lie of evolution, but that can be cured by simply exposing the fraud that it is. Fortunately, due to the many spokespeople of evolution, the job is quite simple.

70 posted on 12/03/2004 5:06:18 AM PST by Reuben Hick
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