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To: Polybius

"If anything can pass into, or out of, a system, we say it is an open system. If only matter can pass into, or out of, a system, but not energy, then we call it a closed system. If neither matter nor energy can pass into, or out of, a system, then we call it an isolated system.

Biological systems are not isolated or closed systems as they depend on the energy from an outside source: .......... Sunlight.

"Order" in biological systems is only made possible by the consumption of energy that is produced at the cost of increasing entropy in the Sun."

Right! But other planets in our solar system are open, the planets around some of the other stars are open, the effect of gravitational forces are open, yet the observable forces in the universe are entropy forces. Furthermore, being a analytical chemist, all that I have observed (dead things)follows entropy. From a very general perspective, I think the different "driving" forces represent lifeless (entropy) vs. life (evolution/creationism) and, to say the least, Earth is very unique.


267 posted on 12/06/2004 11:47:45 PM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: kipita

"If anything can pass into, or out of, a system, we say it is an open system. If only matter can pass into, or out of, a system, but not energy, then we call it a closed system. If neither matter nor energy can pass into, or out of, a system, then we call it an isolated system.

Biological systems are not isolated or closed systems as they depend on the energy from an outside source: .......... Sunlight.

"Order" in biological systems is only made possible by the consumption of energy that is produced at the cost of increasing entropy in the Sun."

--Right! But other planets in our solar system are open, the planets around some of the other stars are open, the effect of gravitational forces are open, yet the observable forces in the universe are entropy forces. Furthermore, being a analytical chemist, all that I have observed (dead things)follows entropy. From a very general perspective, I think the different "driving" forces represent lifeless (entropy) vs. life (evolution/creationism) and, to say the least, Earth is very unique.

You are analytical chemist, and you post rot like this!

God help us.


273 posted on 12/07/2004 3:47:26 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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