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To: Reuben Hick
What are your credentials in Hebrew? I am quite accomplished at it. Your ideas on numbers with yom are quaint, but not held by most Hebrew scholars, just proof texting types who want to justify misinterpreting God's Word.

I think the Adam and Eve story is almost completely a story about the Spirit and not about physical life and death. Also, any tales adapted from pagan cultures like Adam and Eve and Noah are, are bound to be fraught with danger in literal interpretation.

The whole point of this thread is there is nothing about science or evolution that attacks God. Since God made evolution and science to allow our stewardship of the Earth, it is you who might be departing from God's will in your unwillingness to accept God's works. By denying God's works, aren't you denying God?
14 posted on 11/30/2004 5:51:17 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
What are your credentials in Hebrew? I am quite accomplished at it.

Considering your butchering of it as the only example, your claim is as comical as all of the other provocative statements made so far in this thread. As an aside, I am always curious as to why those who believe in a day-age theory demand that "yom", in this context, can only be understood in an age sense, but never in a regular day sense.

The whole point of this thread is there is nothing about science or evolution that attacks God.

Clever yet deceptive how you bundle "science" and "evolution" as if they are the same. True science does not attack God since the founders of much of our scientific theory were believers in God and in Creation.

You are treading in the waters of blasphemy when you state that there is nothing about evolution that attacks God. Don't you remember the Scopes "Monkey" trial? Are you so uninformed about the debate that you ignore the fact that evolution was invented purely as a way to remove God from the culture? Evolution is the antithesis of Creation and is the primary religion of Hell that removes the Creator and replaces Him with Chance.

But since you claim that science is working here, then perhaps you can explain how plants, which require C02 and sunlight in order to survive (we will ignore symbiotic relationships with critters for pollination for the moment) were able to do so without the sun. In the narrative, plants appeared on day three and the sun appeared on day four. According to your calculus, that would mean that in total darkness and temperatures approaching absolute zero, plants were thriving and reproducing for "billions of years" until the sun and its energy finally showed up.

The "whole point of the thread" has been a showcase of lies on your part, especially when you open up with the outrageous and highly offensive lie "Those who don't believe in evolution don't beleive in God". Since evolution has its own origins in the nineteenth century, it follows that you condemn all of humanity before Darwin to Hell on the basis of your own confusion.

Furthermore, I have been patient in giving you ample opportunity to add meat to the bones of your statements. Rather, after telling everyone who doesn't suck-up to atheistic evolution that they are going to Hell you come out and deny the Scriptures as Truth. This is what makes your opening statement even more ironic. You reject Scriptures, call God a liar, embrace atheistic evolution, then call those who believe Scripture, love God, reject pagan explanations of origins as those who "don't believe in God".

I think the Adam and Eve story is almost completely a story about the Spirit and not about physical life and death.

Of course you would. Because if you believed it to be true then it would confirm the Gospel and condemn secular human achievement to vanity. But riddle me this, we have something called a geneology. Most people skip over it because it is boring, but it is there for a reason. It provides a chain of men to link with history. Now since you reject Adam and Eve and I am guessing the first few thousand years of human existance as "a story" rather than history, can you point out in the geneology exactly where history ends and allegory begins?

I know, I know, you will blow off this question too because you would rather blindly believe athiests and God haters rather than think for yourself.

17 posted on 12/01/2004 5:45:07 AM PST by Reuben Hick
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