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To: Jehu

You wrote: "However, the real question is if the literal interpretation of the Bible is falsifiable. It is. It has been down many times. Just one: Dinosaur bones are in chronological order in the strata and dated to millions of years, showing species change over time."


This is the sort of blind and stupid thinking believers in evolution fall into. First it is man that observes the rock strata with certain fossils in them. Because we know rocks were laid down over time we can say bones in lower courses are older...so what? It just means life at that time died at that time and was fossilized. But there is NO indication, absolutely NO hint of gradual changes from species to species.

shubi: That is a very clever sentence, as it is true that species to species differences are difficult to tell from just bones. This is because species differences are very very slight, such that a layman looking at two different species of related beatles would not be able to tell the difference.

Just different life in different eras (that always appear in-toto suddenly in the fossil record and they continue on THE SAME, until extinction or they live on into the next era like sharks and cockroaches). It is only because you wear evolutionists glasses that you LABEL a previous era of life as more primitive than a later era.

shubi: No, it is because the progression of developments of anatomy from two layered jellyfish to worms to annelids to mammals that labels something more "primitive".

That something appeared earlier in the fossil record in no way means it is MORE PRIMITVE than later life of similar morphology, it is simply the labeling game of evolutionists. I can just as well say that different life was created in successive ages and the fossil record bears witness to my interpretation far better than yours, as no transitory species have ever been found, other than labeling games by evolutionists who find a half bird, half lizard, and pronounce it a transition between birds and lizards. How do you know? It could just as well be a lizard-like bird all in its own right! This theory falls in on itself by the weight of its own illogic and contradictory causes and effects. Imagine we are to buy the driving force of evolution that says: "Survival of the fittest," species gain a new niche because they are driven by ruthless competition to exploit some mutation of genes. So a fish starts growing legs to walk on land, but it takes millions of years for the process (wink, wink). All the while it is subject to the same ruthless competion that started the process, but it is no longer an efficient fish, and not yet an efficient land animal. So all the other animals suddenly give this half-assed newly forming species a pass? And they do this for the required million years or so? Freaking ridiculous crap parading as science. Only those that want to find anything, believe anything, but in the immediate creative power of God would buy into this junk.

shubi: Your arguments are the same old fallacy of arguing from personal incredulity. What is the motivation behind you sticking to silly Bible interpretations and substituting that for science? What are you afraid of?


107 posted on 12/03/2004 2:01:55 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: shubi
Do you actually read and think about such sentences as:

"That is a very clever sentence, as it is true that species to species differences are difficult to tell from just bones. This is because species differences are very very slight, such that a layman looking at two different species of related beatles would not be able to tell the difference."

Difficult to tell? You cannot tell at all! You can take the bones of the Australian wolf (forget the scientific name) and those of the American wolf and very few biologists, even paleontologists would know the difference, yet anyone seeing them alive would immediately discern the difference. The are not even in the same family! One marsupial, one mammal. It goes to my point that evolutionary doctrine forces scientists into very unscientific behaviors. No branch of science is replete with so many frauds over time...from the tooth of a pig being used to build an entire exhibit of a caveman family, to the skull of Lucy!

Evolutionists so want their theory to be true! What are they (you) afraid of?

As for me I am not bothered at all. I not only have good evidence that the Bible is always true, and always victorious over history, over all its critics. But I have my own personal experience with God, not to mention the testimony of millions that have had personal experiences with God, not a few of them men of far greater intellect than you or I. Among them you will find the founders of modern science. Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Newton, Boyle, and the list goes on...

Evolutionists are human and they cannot even pretend that "science" washes them of their prejudice and bias, although they try. Evolution is, by and large, an excuse to deny God as the creator. It always boils down to the fact that evolutionists and modernistic Christians cannot face the creative power of God that transcends time and process. The evidence is all around you. Do not think a fallen intellect is an excuse, men have been trying to hide from God and wearing their fig leaves since the fall.

As long as I can place God at a distance, even through process or time, I do not have to face my own rebellion and disobedience to Him. I can always pretend I have no moral obligations to myself, family, nation, and God. O, how the ruthless tycoons of the 19th century like Rockefeller and others welcomed and embraced Darwinism...now they could cloak their ruthlessness in psuedo-scientific mumbo jumbo.
112 posted on 12/03/2004 2:44:55 PM PST by Jehu
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