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To: donh

donh wrote:

Well, actually, teacup size poodles have been around for about 40 years. Think it could mate with a Great Dane in the wild, unassisted by pippettes and microscopes? You guys are a tough audience--what, exactly, does a mammal need to do to be considered a separate species?

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Well actually using domesticated dogs as an example is not good since they are all members of the same species regardless of the consequences of their mating. If the teacup were to survive being mated with a Great Dane, then it is absolutely possible for it to bear a pup. It would be a mutt, and the teacup may not survive the birth, but it does not invalidate the fact that they could possibly bear an offspring.


900 posted on 12/01/2004 12:12:26 PM PST by phoenix0468 (One man with courage is a majority. (Thomas Jefferson))
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Well actually using domesticated dogs as an example is not good since they are all members of the same species regardless of the consequences of their mating. If the teacup were to survive being mated with a Great Dane, then it is absolutely possible for it to bear a pup.

Oh, really? How big do you think a newborn Great Dane is?

It would be a mutt, and the teacup may not survive the birth, but it does not invalidate the fact that they could possibly bear an offspring.

Post Hoc, ergo propter hoc. Let me shave off the extaneous doo-dads in your argument for you: Your assumption is that they are of the same species, therefore, they must have viable offspring, therefore, they must be of the same species. Neatly proved...aside from the lack of available facts to verify your anticedent assumption.

904 posted on 12/01/2004 2:05:09 PM PST by donh
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To: phoenix0468
Well actually using domesticated dogs as an example is not good since they are all members of the same species regardless of the consequences of their mating. If the teacup were to survive being mated with a Great Dane, then it is absolutely possible for it to bear a pup. It would be a mutt, and the teacup may not survive the birth, but it does not invalidate the fact that they could possibly bear an offspring.

I'd be very curious to see if any dog breeder has ever tried this before. Certainly somebody, somewhere must have...

917 posted on 12/01/2004 3:25:35 PM PST by NeuronExMachina
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