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To: Doctor Stochastic
What is your definition of "species"?

I was using the generic "produces fertile offspring" definition.

Also, is "species" an attribute of an individual entity?

Heck no -- individuals are members of a species, which is almost by definition a group thing.

It does bring up an interesting question, though: if species are separated by an inability produce fertile offspring, is it possible to be "the first of a new species?" If so, then it's not clear to me how that new species could possibly propagate beyond the first member.....

894 posted on 12/01/2004 11:12:38 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Note that under your definition, the ends of a "ring species" are different species. "Produces fertile offspring" (a reasonable definition) is not a transitive relation. It's possible that members of subclasses A and B can interbreed as can members of subclasses B and C, whereas subclasses A and C cannot. Were members of subclass B deleted (volcano, virus, grey wolves, fire ants, other disasters), A and C would now be separate under your proposed definition.


895 posted on 12/01/2004 11:20:49 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: r9etb
I was using the generic "produces fertile offspring" definition.

So, if two groups could produce viable offspring, but refuse to mate (for various reasons), would you consider them separate species.

922 posted on 12/01/2004 3:59:53 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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