Posted on 11/19/2004 7:54:02 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
I saw this sad episode just before going to bed. So, now I wake up to see it highlighted on Drudge and all over the news. The media spin seems to be focused on Artest (and the Pacers) going up into the stands. Here is my take...
This incident really started on the previous play. Artest went in for a layup and Ben Wallace blocked his shot from behind, but also fouled Artest, who crashed to the floor. No Call for Artest! At the other end of the floor, Artest reciprocated and gave a hard foul back to Ben Wallace. Foul called against Artest, of course! That's OK, standard NBA stuff at this point. However, a few words were exhanged and then Ben Wallace attacked Artest with a sort of push/punch to Artest's head/throat area. Falling backwards from the attack, Artest actually showed some restraint (not typical for him) and his teammates held him back. He even went over to lay on the scoring table and Reggie Miller stood guaurd over him.
While this was going on it was Ben Wallace that kept stirring the pot and continued to incite the fans. He looked incensed and continued to move toward Artest, shouting likely obscenities. He had to be restrained by Piston and Pacer coaches and players. At this point, there was continued pushing and shoving caused by Ben Wallace. Then he tried to throw a towel at Artest. It seemed like this sort of fueled the flames even more, especially with the fans. The whole atmosphere in the Palace contined to be inflamed by Wallace's behavior.
The situation continued until a fan threw something (cup or bottle of some liquid) at Artest, who was still restrained on the announcer's table. Artest had actually put on a headset at one point and appeared to be giving some feedback to the Pacer's announcers. After the beer/soda hit Artest, he went ballistic and made a beeline for the offending fan. Now, all hell breaks loose with fans throwing everything, several Pacer's (including Jackson) hopping into the stands after Artest, punches being thrown. There was no security to be seen and the announcers were yelling, "where is security?" After a couple of minutes, the referees left the floor followed by the teams. The Pacers were showered with all kinds of debri and liquids from the fans. It was a horrific sight. I thought someone was going to get seriously hurt.
In the aftermath, I'm afraid that most of the focus for this incident will be on Artest. He is truly a knucklehead and has some major mental problems, but he was not the major catalyst of this unfortunate episode. In my opinion, Ben Wallace's continued shouting and shoving raised the intensity level in the arena to the point where a fan crossed the line. Now, Artest should not have jumped into the stands and gone after the fan. My guess is that the media will focus on Artest and other Pacers jumping into the stands (as it makes the best video). And, poor knuclehead Artest will be severely smacked down by the league. But, it really should be noted that Artest was showing amazing restraint in this situation, until the fateful beer was thrown.
In the end, I think this event will define the season for one of these teams. Probably for the worse!
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/041120/483/dtp10811200452
Dude SO GLAD I caught the end on replay! Jackson was really hyped up, arrogant acting, and seemed to escalate the scene...
Those fans are CRAZY. They made things so much worse.
They just started having their own fight and throwing a rain of drinks.
Artest snapped for sure, Jackson went off.
But Wallace (guy in white, big hair?) started it all with that punch it appears. Came out of nowhere. Highly unnecessary.
ESPN aired an angle which first shows the guy in the white cap bending upward and while in that motion, from that same spot, you can see the cup begin it's flight with liquid splashing and spraying as it travels towards Artest.
The toss was a good 20 feet.
I don't think it was necessarily directed at Artest, but rather, in the vicinty of the Pacer bench and the scorers table where the Pacers were milling about.
Alot of people had already began to file out, so most of the seats around white cap were empty.
It's looking more and more like white cap is the cup tosser.
Mike Ryan, for one, just became very, very rich.
Hip Hop hooliganism. Basketball ended when Larry Bird and Magic retired. I don't watch anymore
Yes, he's in my Pewaukee Passoffs.
When I was in elementary school, I got flicked in the face with one of those paper footballs. Assault and battery, right? Did that give me the right to charge after the football flicker to try to beat the crap out of him?
There are very few circumstances when people should 'take the law into their own hands'. This was definitely not one of them.
Pro sports is so full of gangstas it's not funny, or entertaining, in the least.
Don't you think the guy who actually threw the beer that started it all about crapped his pants when Artest came up into the stands? He probably never thought in a million years that Artest would fight the fans. When you're drinking beer on your duff in the stands and yelling at the players, you don't consider just how friggin' huge those guys really are. Imagine you're Joe Fan and you're about 5'9", 190 pounds, and here comes this monster 6' 10", 280 pound guy charging at you. That's pants soilin' time.
"Sounds like Arafat's funeral to me."
No, they thought Wellstone's body was in the house.
Am still trying to think of a player with decent morals
While the fans actions where terrible, the event security was equally as bad. Where was the security behind the bench. Where were they when this was going on. The only time you see them is chasing Artest down threatening to mace HIM. They where not in or near the fans throwing things. They where all standing in the middle of the floor. No announcement on the PA until after the Pacers had left the floor. The whole Pistons organization should be ashamed of the their actions.
Of course the guy in the stands should be held responsible - he's a jerk and should be appropriately punished BY THE AUTHORITIES. But that does not give license to Artest to run in the stands after him. Being battered does not give a person the right to retaliate if there is no further danger.
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