LOL! Here you go!
Posted on 11/19/2004 5:35:36 AM PST by SheLion
Do you have children? Have you thought about what it does to a child to see their parent suffer from a disease like lung cancer?
You are right, life is not without risks. You are a ticking time bomb whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
Why is that, I wonder? You do not pay my bills or support me.
I am not abusive. I am not gay. I am a Christian. I am a Conservative. I live on the right side of the law.
Why do you want to take something away from me that I enjoy and is still a legal commodity to buy?
"If I am a migraine sufferer who's headaches are triggered by cigarette smoke, should I have to talk through a cloud of smoke to get into a restaurant or business?"
Your question assumes a RIGHT to enter a PRIVATE business ON YOUR TERMS- I assert that this "right" doesn't exist.
Several years ago I encountered a procedure that changed my life in a most dramatic way. I had spent 35 years of my life as a chain smoker, a habit that is all too common in the hotel and restaurant industry. Smoking was finally beginning to seriously affect my health, as I was experiencing all of the vile manifestations of a typical smoker. I had tried dozens of unsuccessful "stop smoking" gimmicks, including pills, patches, counting contraptions, acupuncture, as well as cold turkey. I was convinced that I was probably never going to rid myself of this curse.
Things changed however, by sheer coincidence while I was on tour, taping a TV cooking show in a fancy downtown Baltimore hotel. During a lull in the production, I wandered down the hall to find a quiet place to sit and relax, when I happened upon a stop smoking clinic. This session, "Quit Smoking With Hypnosis", was being conducted by a local hypnotist. I really wasn’t too impressed, as I didn’t think hypnosis or anything as simple as that could work with my deep seeded tobacco addiction, but I had heard from close friends, that hypnosis was great for relieving stress, so I decided to give it a try. Forty minutes later I emerged from that hotel auditorium, as a nonsmoker. I stopped smoking that evening and I have never looked back, not even once.
What is Hypnosis, and how it work? The U.S. Federal government describes hypnosis as having two defining and intricate features: (1) the bypass of the critical factor, which limits the mind, and (2) the establishment of acceptable selective thinking (preferred behavior) through induced suggestion while relaxing in a hypnotic sleep. REALLY!
This "bypass of the critical factor" simply means the liberation of the mind of it's "limiting beliefs". For example, the use of hypnosis for anesthesia (pain relief) has been accepted by the American Medical Association since 1958. The American Dental Association, embraces hypnosis and it's inherent powers to assist patients in overcoming fears as well as pain. Further, Hypnosis is also nature's quickest and safest treatment for combating and overcoming most common debilitating phobias.
"The establishment of acceptable selective thinking," the second part of the definition, refers to the process of guiding someone’s thought processes, through the use of hypnotic suggestion. In other words, our mind, like a computer has developed a lifetime of information, much of which is mix of normal everyday experiences, but commonly mixed with childhood trauma and fears. Unfortunately, many of these experiences manifest themselves into lifelong inhibitors.
With the aid of hypnosis, you can rid yourself of these intrusive self imposed fears, conditions, or even addictions, and replace them with new and more empowering thoughts and habits leading to a healthier and happier life. The Hypnotherapist acts as a facilitator, supplanting desired motivations in place of destructive habitual behavior. In other words, Hypnosis helps you exchange your nasty habits with better and more beneficial proclivities, and who would argue with that?
Overeating, just like smoking, is just a really bad habit, and in order to "kick the habit" so to speak, you must modify your behavior. Thus, just as millions have walked away from a lifelong smoking habit, so can those who wish to shed their unwanted weight, and as a bonus, and keep it off, forever!
Shortly after I discovered the power of Hypnosis, I began an in-depth study into it’s other benefits and applications. Soon I began to apply it to weight control, with wildly successful results. Now as a Hypnotherapist, using my years of experiences in all areas of my life, I am able to assist others in helping themselves solve their weight problem.
Hypnosis may be the answer that you have been looking for, much as it was for me. You need to lose weight? Why not just sleep it off? I have produced 2 Stop Smoking with Hypnosis CD's, that my clients use to reinforce the session.. They are sometimes successful even without any further Hynotherapest intervention.. There are hypnosis clinics in most every town.. If you are a smoker it really is time to think about stopping.. I mean NOW!
We are not talking about smoking. We're talking about ETS, or second hand smoke, and no, the vast majority of the studies done, including the three largest, say there is no health risk from ETS unless there is a pre-existing medical condition.
As for the smell - you're going to have a law enacted stripping property owners of their rights because you don't like the SMELL?
But does that mean that 3 or 4 smokers should be allowed to sit in a restaurant and smoke while the people around them, some with children, are miserable?
If the restaurant owner allows smoking, yes.
But you come at that position from a wrong position.
There are things that can be done by the property owner to accomodate both the smoker AND the nonsmoker. Why not let the property owner decide?
Odd, but I don't drink, yet I'm not anti-alcohol (except in some individual cases). Tobacco and coffee are my drugs of choice. Beats taking all those pills.....
Gov't needs the taxes...we should continue to buy
cigarettes, just don't smoke them.
"Everyone is born with cancer cells. Depending on one's lifestyle and all around immune system is what determines who gets cancer. Smoking alone does not cause cancer. This is junk science."
A male smoker is 23.3 times as likely as a non-smoker to get (and die of) lung cancer. The relative risk of dying from other cancers is 2-14x for smokers. This is not "junk science".
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_10_2X_Smoking_and_Cancer_Mortality_Table.asp?sitearea=PED&viewmode=print&
But they are on the books and you have to abide by them. Why can't you accept that not everybody wants to livw in a smoke filled environment.
I can buy guns at the gun store. I am even licensed to carry a concealed weapon. You know what, I am NOT allowed to take my weapon into an establishment that sell liquor. Does it piss me off? Hell yes. Do I take my weapon inside? Hell no.
Sometimes life sucks. Get a helmet and get over it. Smoke at home. Smoke in your car. Smoke at your friends house. But don't smoke where you aren't wanted and the people of California have decided that they don't want you in their public places.
Cars and trucks pollute along with planes, trains, ships, factories and sewers which as some point and time you breathe so maybe we should just ban everything and start walking, eating berries, and wiping our butts with the leaves from trees.
I'm telling you, those smoke eaters are the best thing since chicken soup! Before Maine forced the whole state to go smoke free, I used to go to a Sports Inn in town. Had a full menu, and '4' big smoke eaters on the ceiling.
You have to look to see if people were smoking! There was no smell and you couldn't see the smoke. It's wonderful.
No more stale beer smell and old smoke smells. I just love those air purifiers. But, that still wasn't good enough for the state. Wonder if they will reimburse the business's that invested in those smoke eaters?
I doubt it. :(
I know, I don't make it a habit to go around spitting on people.
In fact, I go out of my way to be nice to people even though they may be acting like idiots. I have a high tolerance for smokers, I was in the Marines and I worked in confined areas where people were smoking like crazy.
I do get a little more protective when the wife and kids are around though. Of course, I really wouldn't spit on anyone then, wouldn't want the kids to start doing it.
But the RIGHT to smoke does?
I have little problem with a vote of the people to amend the state, or even federal, constitution to outlaw smoking in private businesses and/or public venues.
Florida did it the correct way. I'm not happy about the result but I do, and will, abide by the law.
This is just like the prohibition of alchohol and it should take just as much of an effort to ban private property owners from allowing it.
Just don't expect someone standing in a doorway to give you any respect since they were forced to be there to begin with.
LOL! Here you go!
We just aren't going to get out of this life alive and I think it's time the nanny state recognizes that. :)
Let me be a rugged individualist and LIVE life not just exist! That's my creed. ;P hehehe I just couldn't resist throwing all that in to this thread. :)
Ain't it great?
Okay, second hand smoke doesn't harm people unless they have a pre-existing condition. Does that mean you won't smoke when there is an asthma sufferer nearby?
Or should these people just stay home and never go outside to any public or private place.
So smell isn't a big deal? Would you let a company build a chicken processing plant down the street from your house? How about a nice slaughterhouse outside of town. That would probably make your day.
You know what, we actually, kind of agree on the private business one because if I owned my own bar, I would want people to be able to smoke in there. That would be my personal decision because I would want to draw more business.
How do you feel about businesses being able to exclude smokers? Is that okay or will there be cries of discrimination later on? I am going to do some checking before I make any sweeping statements but I do believe I've seen some lawsuits over this very thing.
Most of the second hand smoke studies done were junk science and the ones that were honest were hidden. See if you can find the WHO's study, they had to bury it. Try to find the court case back in the northeast where the judge through out the study that the prosecution used because out of several studies they decided to use the worst case scenario one which happened to be false and not use the most accurate one that showed that there really wasn't a danger from hand smoke. Do a search on FR, it was all discussed here in the last couple of years.
I bet SheLion has the links.
They can prove the viruses are there that can cause cancers but alot more is involved, genetics, stress, etc.
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