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To: lentulusgracchus

Remember, at FR the first person to invoke the "Nazi" comparison loses by default. Lincoln acted according to the principles upon which this nation was founded.


312 posted on 08/29/2004 6:09:20 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
Lincoln acted according to the principles upon which this nation was founded.

Funny. I always thought that this was the principle on which our nation was founded:

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

313 posted on 08/29/2004 6:14:45 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: capitan_refugio
While we're at it, here are a couple more principles on which this nation was founded:

He has refuted his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

Lincoln refuted his assent to the laws by shunning at least five court rulings against him and using the military to intimidate and house arrest judges.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

Lincoln had at least two federal congressmen arrested, overthrew the Missouri legislature by force, and detained several members of the Maryland legislature to prevent it from meeting over secession.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

Lincoln unconstitutionally suspended habeas corpus and refused his assent to the Judicial Act of 1789, which established the judiciary power of habeas corpus.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. Lincoln employed federal soldiers to place a judge under house arrest and plotted to arrest the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. He also attempted to use his new income tax to tinker with the salaries of federal judges he did not like, Taney among them, in violation of the Constitution's provision that judges will "receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office."

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

See Sherman's march through Georgia.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

Lincoln raised a massive standing army to invade Virginia a month before it even seceded, all while Congress was out of session.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

Again, Lincoln shunned at least five major federal court rulings against him and used his military agents to detain, harass, and house arrest the civil power of the judiciary.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation

Lincoln gave his sanction to a rump legislature in Wheeling, West Virginia, which was purporting itself to conduct the government of the entire state of Virginia. He also overthrew the state constitution of Missouri and installed his own legislature there and oversaw the reorganization of the state constitution of Maryland with a highly suspect referendum.

The list goes on and on from there. It is without doubt that Lincoln committed many if not most of the same offenses that led the colonists to rebel against King George.

314 posted on 08/29/2004 6:27:58 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: capitan_refugio
Remember, at FR the first person to invoke the "Nazi" comparison loses by default.

You might oughta communicate that to your hero Harry Jaffa. He's quite fond of branding the confederacy with a nazi label even though the record clearly and irrefutably shows that Hitler adhered to a Lincolnian position about the union.

336 posted on 08/30/2004 10:34:51 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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