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To: capitan_refugio; GOPcapitalist
[GOPcap #1387] "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY - EVER HEARD OF IT?"

[cr #1391 to GOPcap] "Yes, it is a constitutional principle, and did not apply to insurrectionists who renounced the very concept."

That's odd. Jefferson Davis was charged, but then the government decided it was unable to prove its charges and dropped the case. They did not have much success outside of military tribunals.

John Harrison Surratt was charged and tried. The government was unable to obtain a conviction and dropped that case as well.

If "innocent until proven guilty" did not apply to insurrectionists, whyever were they set free? Especially that Surratt fellow.

1,401 posted on 09/18/2004 2:22:48 AM PDT by nolu chan ("Why make such a fuss....?" Lincoln, CW 3:495)
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To: nolu chan; All
see 1434!

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1,436 posted on 09/18/2004 11:54:23 AM PDT by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. damnyankee is a LEARNED prejudice.)
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To: nolu chan
I have posted to you before Chief Justice Chase's rationale for dropping the charges - that Congress and the States, by passage and ratification of the 14th Amendment, had already provided a legislative punishment for the offending southerners. And please, let's not get into another "bill of attainder" discussion.
1,484 posted on 09/19/2004 12:36:45 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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