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To: xJones
"But the atonement is universal in the sense that the Church's gates are wide open to "everyone who calls"

If you believe the church saves anyone then a point may be valid

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Calvinists agree that EVERYONE that calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. The question is who will call? What is the difference between those that call and those that do not?

The bible says that call comes from hearing the gospel (Faith come by hearing and hearing by the word of God )

Who is it that sees that a man comes under the preaching of the gospel? Who brings the man to repentance and to the call? That is the question

, to "him who is thirsty" (Rev. 21:6), to "all you who are weary and burdened" (Matt. 11:28). The invitation to believe, be baptized and enter the Church extends to "every tribe and language and people and nation" (Rev. 5:9). In that sense, the atonement is universal and available to all."

The question stands. What is the difference between one who thirsts ? How is is one is heavy laden with his sin and another is oblivious to it and enjoys it?

Is one smarter ? Luckier? Holier? What is the difference. We say it is the grace and the providence of God. What is your answer?

90 posted on 06/16/2004 3:40:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (You did not chose me, I chose)
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To: RnMomof7
Who is it that sees that a man comes under the preaching of the gospel? Who brings the man to repentance and to the call? That is the question.

Good question.

96 posted on 06/16/2004 4:50:29 PM PDT by MarMema (Up, up, up, there's nowhere to go from here but up.)
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