Did NONE of the world Know him ? Or only some of the world not know him
Joh 1:29 The next day he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
Does Jesus take away the sin of the entire world?
Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him. Is the entire world saved through Him?
Joh 3:19 "And this is the judgment, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their deeds were evil. Joh 4:42 and they were saying to the woman, "It is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have heard for ourselves and know that this One is indeed the Savior of the world."
Is Jesus saviour of THE ENTIRE WORLD (your preferred reading of Kosmos)
Joh 6:14 When therefore the people saw the sign which He had performed, they said, "This is of a truth the Prophet who is to come into the world." Joh 6:33 "For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world."
Does Jesus give life TO THE ENTIRE WORLD?
I think I have made my point.
If you choose to have the definition of the world be all the world without exception...you need to become a Unitarian /Universalist
Did I say that?
Is the entire world saved through Him?
Did I say that?
Is Jesus saviour of THE ENTIRE WORLD (your preferred reading of Kosmos)
Did I say that? Did I write that that was my "preferred reading" of kosmos?
Does Jesus give life TO THE ENTIRE WORLD?
Did I say that?
I think I have made my point.
No, you have not.
If you choose to have the definition of the world be all the world without exception...you need to become a Unitarian /Universalist
You have done, here, that which is your wont: You PRETEND or IMAGINE that you know what I "prefer," or "choose." Then you argue against that "preference" or "choice." Then you (in essence) say that I am a "Unitarian/Universalist" (that is, a HERETIC). Need I show you again, where the article (which YOU posted earlier) condemns these very things?
DG
p.s. In a little while, I may be able to post my understanding of those verses.
ALL,
Please look at these verses, which demonstrate the use of the Greek word kosmos, within the Gospel of John:
Greek Word: Kovsmoß
Transliterated Word: kosmos
Book to Display: John
Verse Count: 57
Joh 1:9
There was the true light which, coming into the
world, enlightens every man.
[The word world, cannot mean "the elect. As to "every man," I will let it speak for itself.]
Joh 1:10
He was in the world, and the world was made
through Him, and the world did not know Him.
[None of these uses could possibly mean "only the elect."]
Joh 1:29
The next day he saw Jesus coming to him, and
said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the
sin of the world!
[In dispute-- see below.]
Joh 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only
begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should
not perish, but have eternal life.
[In dispute-- see below.]
Joh 3:17
"For God did not send the Son into the world to
judge the world, but that the world should be
saved through Him.
[In dispute(?)-- see below.]
Joh 3:19
"And this is the judgment, that the light is come into
the world, and men loved the darkness rather than
the light; for their deeds were evil.
[The word world, cannot mean "the elect."]
Joh 4:42
and they were saying to the woman, "It is no longer
because of what you said that we believe, for we
have heard for ourselves and know that this One is
indeed the Savior of the world."
[This being merely the recorded speech of sinners (or new disciples) thus it carries little probative weight, for doctrinal purposes.]
Joh 6:14
When therefore the people saw the sign which He
had performed, they said, "This is of a truth the
Prophet who is to come into the world."
[Same as above, except that it cannot mean "the elect."]
Joh 6:33
"For the bread of God is that which comes down out
of heaven, and gives life to the world."
[In dispute-- see below.]
Joh 6:51
"I am the living bread that came down out of
heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he shall live
forever; and the bread also which I shall give for the
life of the world is My flesh."
[In dispute-- see below.]
Joh 7:4
"For no one does anything in secret, when he
himself seeks to be known publicly. If You do these
things, show Yourself to the world."
[See 6:14--above.]
Joh 7:7
"The world cannot hate you; but it hates Me
because I testify of it, that its deeds are evil.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 8:12
Again therefore Jesus spoke to them, saying, "I am
the light of the world; he who follows Me shall not
walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life."
[In light of 9:5 (see below) this could not mean "the elect."]
Joh 8:23
And He was saying to them, "You are from below, I
am from above; you are of this world, I am not of
this world.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 8:26
"I have many things to speak and to judge
concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and
the things which I heard from Him, these I speak to
the world."
[Here (as in 8:23, above) is talking to "the Pharisees." He, having already told them that THEY "are of the world," could not, now, mean "the elect."]
Joh 9:5
"While I am in the world, I am the light of the
world."
[The first use of world cannot mean "the elect." Therefore, the second use of world in the same sentence must not mean "the elect."]
Joh 9:39
And Jesus said, "For judgment I came into this
world, that those who do not see may see; and
that those who see may become blind."
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 10:36
do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and
sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,'
because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 11:9
Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours in the
day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not
stumble, because he sees the light of this world.
[As in the many other verses in John, Yeshua is "the light of THIS world." In this verse, also, as in them, the word world must not mean "the elect."]
Joh 11:27
She said to Him, "Yes, Lord; I have believed that
You are the Christ, the Son of God, even He who
comes into the world."
[See 6:14--above.]
Joh 12:19
The Pharisees therefore said to one another, "You
see that you are not doing any good; look, the
world has gone after Him."
[See 6:14--above.]
Joh 12:25
"He who loves his life loses it; and he who hates his
life in this world shall keep it to life eternal.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 12:31
"Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of
this world shall be cast out.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 12:46
"I have come as light into the world, that everyone
who believes in Me may not remain in darkness.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 12:47
"And if anyone hears My sayings, and does not
keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to
judge the world, but to save the world.
[Here, Yeshua is talking to those who do "not keep" "My sayings." Thus, in this verse, the word world does not mean "the elect."]
Joh 13:1
Now before the Feast of the Passover, Jesus
knowing that His hour had come that He should
depart out of this world to the Father, having loved
His own who were in the world, He loved them to
the end.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 14:17
that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot
receive, because it does not behold Him or know
Him, but you know Him because He abides with you,
and will be in you.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 14:19
"After a little while the world will behold Me no
more; but you will behold Me; because I live, you
shall live also.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 14:22
Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, what then
has happened that You are going to disclose
Yourself to us, and not to the world?"
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 14:27
"Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not
as the world gives, do I give to you. Let not your
heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 14:30
"I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of
the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me;
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 14:31
but that the world may know that I love the Father,
and as the Father gave Me commandment, even so
I do. Arise, let us go from here.
[The word world, almost certainly does not mean "the elect."]
Joh 15:18
"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated
Me before it hated you.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 15:19
"If you were of the world, the world would love its
own; but because you are not of the world, but I
chose you out of the world, therefore the world
hates you.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 16:8
"And He, when He comes, will convict the world
concerning sin, and righteousness, and judgment;
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 16:11
and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this
world has been judged.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 16:20
"Truly, truly, I say to you, that you will weep and
lament, but the world will rejoice; you will be
sorrowful, but your sorrow will be turned to joy.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 16:21
"Whenever a woman is in travail she has sorrow,
because her hour has come; but when she gives
birth to the child, she remembers the anguish no
more, for joy that a child has been born into the
world.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 16:28
"I came forth from the Father, and have come into
the world; I am leaving the world again, and going
to the Father."
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 16:33
"These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you
may have peace. In the world you have tribulation,
but take courage; I have overcome the world."
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:5
"And now, glorify Thou Me together with Thyself,
Father, with the glory which I had with Thee before
the world was.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:6
"I manifested Thy name to the men whom Thou
gavest Me out of the world; Thine they were, and
Thou gavest them to Me, and they have kept Thy
word.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:9
"I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the
world, but of those whom Thou hast given Me; for
they are Thine;
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:11
"And I am no more in the world; and yet they
themselves are in the world, and I come to Thee.
Holy Father, keep them in Thy name, the name
which Thou hast given Me, that they may be one,
even as We are.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:13
"But now I come to Thee; and these things I speak
in the world, that they may have My joy made full in
themselves.
[The word world, is highly unlikely to mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:14
"I have given them Thy word; and the world has
hated them, because they are not of the world,
even as I am not of the world.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:15
"I do not ask Thee to take them out of the world,
but to keep them from the evil one.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:16
"They are not of the world, even as I am not of the
world.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:18
"As Thou didst send Me into the world, I also have
sent them into the world.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:21
that they may all be one; even as Thou, Father, art
in Me, and I in Thee, that they also may be in Us;
that the world may believe that Thou didst send
Me.
[Since ALL of the previous uses of world in this prayer could not have meant "the elect," it is very unlikely that this particular usage does so.]
Joh 17:23
I in them, and Thou in Me, that they may be
perfected in unity, that the world may know that
Thou didst send Me, and didst love them, even as
Thou didst love Me.
[Same as the above. Also, see the two following verses, in the same prayer.]
Joh 17:24
"Father, I desire that they also, whom Thou hast
given Me, be with Me where I am, in order that they
may behold My glory, which Thou hast given Me;
for Thou didst love Me before the foundation of the
world.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 17:25
"O righteous Father, although the world has not
known Thee, yet I have known Thee; and these
have known that Thou didst send Me;
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 18:20
Jesus answered him, "I have spoken openly to the
world; I always taught in synagogues, and in the
temple, where all the Jews come together; and I
spoke nothing in secret.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 18:36
Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world.
If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants
would be fighting, that I might not be delivered up to
the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this
realm."
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
Joh 18:37
Pilate therefore said to Him, "So You are a king?"
Jesus answered, "You say correctly that I am a
king. For this I have been born, and for this I have
come into the world, to bear witness to the truth.
Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice."
[Again, since the immediately previous verse used the word world TWICE, in a way which could not possibly mean "the elect," it is highly unlikely thjat it carries that meaning, in this verse.]
Joh 21:25
And there are also many other things which Jesus
did, which if they were written in detail, I suppose
that even the world itself would not contain the
books which were written.
[The word world, cannot possibly mean "the elect."]
http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Greek/freqdisp.cgi?book=joh&number=2889&count=57&version=nas
Here are the verses in the Gospel of John, which appear to be in dispute, regarding the meaning of the word world.
Joh 1:29
The next day he saw Jesus coming to him, and
said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the
sin of the world!
[In dispute-- see below.]
Joh 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only
begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should
not perish, but have eternal life.
[In dispute-- see below.]
Joh 3:17
"For God did not send the Son into the world to
judge the world, but that the world should be
saved through Him.
[In dispute(?)-- see below.]
"For the bread of God is that which comes down out
of heaven, and gives life to the world."
[In dispute-- see below.]
Joh 6:51
"I am the living bread that came down out of
heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he shall live
forever; and the bread also which I shall give for the
life of the world is My flesh."
[In dispute-- see below.]
Based upon the fact that the word world does not mean "only the elect," in all of the other verses, (and other passages not cited here) it is my strongly held personal opinion that it does not mean "the elect," in these five verses.
DG