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The "World" of John 3:16 Does Not Mean "All Men Without Exception
http://www.graceonlinelibrary.org/calvinism/full.asp?ID=277 ^ | 6/15/04 | David J. Engelsma

Posted on 06/15/2004 6:53:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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The "World" of John 3:16 Does Not Mean "All Men Without Exception" - David J. Engelsma

It is now common among Reformed people that, when one confesses God’s election of some persons to salvation, God’s particular love for the elect, and God’s exclusive desire to save the elect, his confession is immediately contested by an appeal to John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Indeed, this is almost the rule. The one who thus appeals to John 3:16 intends to assert that God loves all men without exception and that God desires to save all men without exception. The basic assumption underlying this appeal to John 3:16, as an argument against election, is that the word, world, in John 3:16 means ‘all men without exception.
We do here announce, declare, and proclaim that this assumption is false. It is unbiblical. It commits one to a teaching that deviates from the gospel, fundamentally. The word, world, in John 3:16 does not mean ‘all men without exception.’

We plead with our Reformed brothers and sisters who insist on understanding "world" in John 3:16 as ‘all men without exception’ and on using this text against the confession of God’s particular love for the elect to face up to the doctrinal position that they are taking. This, now, is their position:

  • God loves all men without exception, with a love that gives His only begotten Son for their salvation, that is, with the (saving) love that desires their salvation from sin and their eternal life in heaven.
  • God gave His only begotten Son for all men without exception, that is, Jesus died for all men without exception.
  • Nevertheless, many people whom God loves, whom God desires to save, and for whom Jesus died perish in hell, unsaved.
  • Therefore, 1) many persons are separated from the love of God; 2) God’s desire to save is frustrated in the case of many persons; and 3) the death of Jesus failed to save many for whom the Son of God, in fact, died.
  • The reason for this sad state of affairs is that those persons refused to believe in Jesus, although they were able to do so by virtue of their free will.
  • On the other hand, the reason why the others are saved is not that God loved them, desired their salvation, and gave His Son to die for them (for He also loved those who perish, desired their salvation, and gave His Son for them), but that they, by their free will, chose to believe.
  • In conclusion, the damnation of the wicked is the defeat and disappointment of God, whereas the salvation of the believers is their own work.
When the all-men-without-exception-people quote John 3:16, this is how they are reading it: "For God so loved all men without exception, that he gave his only begotten Son to die for all men without exception, with the desire that all men without exception be saved, so that whosoever believeth in him, of his own free will, should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Whenever anyone challenges the confession of God’s particular, exclusive love for His elect by quoting John 3:16, we must regretfully conclude that he holds the doctrinal position set forth above and wishes to confess it publicly, in order thus to overthrow the Reformed doctrine of predestination, limited atonement, total depravity, effectual grace, and the preservation of saints (which is only an elaborate way of saying, salvation by grace alone — the gospel).

The word, world, in the gospel of John does not mean ‘all men without exception.’ Proof:
John 1:29: "Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." Did Christ by His death take away the sin of all men without exception? If He did, all men without exception shall be saved.

John 6:33: "For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world." Does Jesus give life (not, ineffectually offer life, but, efficaciously give life) to all men without exception? If He does, all men without exception have eternal life.

John 17:9: "I (Jesus) pray not for the world." Does Jesus refuse to pray for all men without exception?
This last text points out that the word, world, in the gospel of John does not always have the same meaning. In John 3:16, the world is loved by God, with a love that gives the Son of God for its sake; in John 17:9, the Son of God refuses to pray for the world. The saints must not come to an understanding of the world of John 3:16 by a quick assumption, but by careful interpretation of the passage in the light of the rest of Scripture.

What then is the truth about the world of John 3:16?

Loved by God with Divine, almighty, effectual, faithful, eternal love, the world is saved. All of it! All of them!

Redeemed by the precious, worthy, powerful, effectual death of the Son of God, the world is saved. All of it! All of them!

The salvation of all the persons included in the world of John 3:16 is due solely to the effectual love of God and the redeeming death of Christ for them; whereas the persons who perish were never loved by God, nor redeemed by Christ, that is, they are not part of the world of John 3:16.

The world of John 3:16 (Greek: kosmos, from which comes our English word, cosmos, referring to our "orderly, harmonious, systematic universe’s) is the creation made by God in the beginning, now disordered by sin, with the elect from all nations, now by nature children of wrath even as the others, as the core of it. As regards its people, the world of John 3:16 is the new humanity in Jesus Christ, the last

Adam (I Corinthians 15:45). John calls this new human race "the world" in order to show, and emphasize, that it is not from the Jewish people alone, but from all nations and peoples (Revelation 7:9). The people who make up the world of John 3:16 are all those, and those only, who will become believers (whosoever believeth"); and it is the elect who believe (Acts 13:48).

This explanation of John 3:16 is not some strange, new interpretation dreamed up by latter-day hyper-Calvinists, but the explanation that has been given in the past by defenders of the Faith we call Reformed, that is, by those who confessed the sovereign grace of God in the salvation of sinners.

This was the explanation given by Frances Turretin, Reformed theologian in Geneva (1623-1687):
The love treated of in John 3:16. .. cannot be universal towards all and every one, but special towards a few... because the end of that love which God intends is the salvation of those whom He pursues with such love.. . If therefore God sent Christ for that end, that through Him the world might be saved, He must either have failed of His end, or the world must necessarily be saved in fact. But it is certain that not the whole world, but only those chosen out of the world are saved; therefore, to them properly has this love reference... Why then should not the world here be taken not universally for individuals, but indefinitely for anyone, Jews as well as Gentiles, without distinction of nation, language and condition. that He may be said to have loved the human race, inasmuch as He was unwilling to destroy it entirely but decreed to save some certain persons Out of it, not only from one people as before, but from all indiscriminately, although the effects of that love should not be extended to each individual, but only to some certain ones, viz, those chosen out of the world? (Theological Institutes)
About the word, world, in Scripture, Abraham Kuyper, the Dutch theologian (1837-1920) wrote:
For if there is anything that is certain from a somewhat more attentive reading of Holy Scripture, and that may be held as firmly established, it is, really, the irrefutable fact, that the word, world, in Holy Scripture, means "all men" only as a very rare exception and almost always means something entirely different.

In explanation, specifically, of the "world" of John 3:16, Kuyper went on to say that the reference is to the "proper kernal" of the creation, the elect people of God, "which Jesus snatches away from Satan." out of this kernal, out this congregation, out of this people, a "new world," a "new earth and new heaven," shall one day appear, by a wonder-work of God. The earth does not merely serve to allow the elect to be saved, in order then to disappear. No, the elect are men; these men form a whole, a collection, an organism; that organism is grounded in creation; and because now this creation is the reflection of God’s wisdom and the work of His hands, God’s administration of it may not come to nothing, but in the Great Day God’s will with this creation shall be perfectly realized. (Dat De Genade Particulier Is (That Grace is Particular). My translation of the Dutch.)
Essentially the same is the interpretation of Arthur W. Pink (1886-1952):
Turning now to John 3:16, it should be evident from the passages just quoted that this verse will not bear the construction usually put upon it. "God so loved the world." Many suppose that this means, The entire human race. But "the entire human race" includes all mankind from Adam till the close of earth’s history: it reaches backward as well as forward! Consider, then, the history of mankind before Christ was born. Unnumbered millions lived and died before the Savior came to the earth, lived here "having no hope and without God in the world," and therefore passed out into eternity of woe. If God "loved" them, where is the slightest proof thereof? Scripture declares "Who (God) in times past (from the tower of Babel till after Pentecost) suffered all nations to walk in their own ways" (Acts 14:16). Scripture declares that "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient" (Rom. 1:28). To Israel God said, "You only have I known of all the families of the earth" (Amos 3:2). In view of these plain passages who will be so foolish as to insist that God in the past loved all mankind! The same applies with equal force to the future . . . But the objector comes back to John 3:16 and says, "World means world. "True, but we have shown that "the world" does not mean the whole human family. The fact is that "the world" is used in a general way.. . Now the first thing to note in connection with John 3:16 is that our Lord was there speaking to Nicodemus, a man who believed that God’s mercies were confined to his own nation. Christ there announced that God’s love in giving His Son had a larger object in view, that it flowed beyond the boundary of Palestine, reaching out to "regions beyond." In other words, this was Christ’s announcement that God had a purpose of grace toward Gentiles as well as Jews. "God so loved the world," then, signifies, God’s love is international in its scope. But does this mean that God loves every individual among the Gentiles? Not necessarily, for as we have seen the term "world" is general rather than specific, relative rather than absolute. . . the "world" in John 3:16 must, in the final analysis refer to the world of God’s people. Must we say, for there is no other alternative solution. It cannot mean the whole human race, for one half of the race was already in hell when Christ came to earth. It is unfair to insist that it means every human being now living, for every other passage in the New Testament where God’s love is mentioned limits it to His own people — search and see! The objects of God’s love in John 3:16 are precisely the same as the objects of Christ’s love in John 13:1: "Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that His time was come, that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own which were in the world, He loved them unto the end." We may admit that our interpretation of John 3:16 is no novel one invented by us, but one almost uniformly given by the Reformers and Puritans, and many others since them. (The Sovereignty of God)
We can only marvel that Reformed men and women are so soon removed from the truth of God’s sovereign, particular, electing love in Jesus Christ, which truth has not only been confessed "by the Reformers and Puritans" before them, but has also been confessed by the Reformed church herself in her Creed, the Canons of Dordt.

Who hath bewitched them?

As for us, we are determined, out of love for the truth, to oppose the lie of a love of God in Jesus Christ for all men without exception; to try to rescue those who have been taken captive by this doctrine; and to preach and testify, near and far, in season and out of season, a love of God for the world that saves the world, a death of the Son of God that redeemed the world, a purpose of God for the saving of sinners that is accomplished, and a salvation of enslaved sinners by the sovereign power of the grace of God alone — for the comfort of every believer and the glory of God.

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To: P-Marlowe
Evangelists and Bible Teachers and street preachers and on-fire new teenage converts do all the heavy lifting and spend all their time and spiritual energy in leading lost people to Christ

Absolutely wrong.

The Holy Spirit does all the heavy lifting in leading lost people towards Christ, using whomever He will.

141 posted on 06/17/2004 4:41:39 AM PDT by jude24 (sola gratia)
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To: P-Marlowe

Great, I knew the source. That is not what I asked. Have you read Calvin's commentaries?

Your brother,
Christian.


142 posted on 06/17/2004 4:53:26 AM PDT by thePilgrim
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To: thePilgrim
Great, I knew the source. That is not what I asked.

Yes it was.

143 posted on 06/17/2004 5:17:30 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: jude24
Absolutely wrong. The Holy Spirit does all the heavy lifting in leading lost people towards Christ, using whomever He will.

And he uses the willing, does he not? And those who are willing must do the labor.

Luk 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.

144 posted on 06/17/2004 5:24:09 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

Let's try this one more time: Have you read the source?

Your brother,
Christian.


145 posted on 06/17/2004 5:29:24 AM PDT by thePilgrim
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To: walden
Interesting. I'm not a Calvinist, so am not familiar with his writings. Which work of his are you quoting?

Calvin's Commentaries

Complete

From the Calvin Translation Society edition


146 posted on 06/17/2004 5:29:50 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: thePilgrim
Let's try this one more time: Have you read the source?

The "source" is John 3:16, and yes, I have read it. As a matter of fact, I have it memorized.

147 posted on 06/17/2004 5:33:02 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
The whole reason the non-believer is condemned is because they don't believe that Christ died on the cross for them! Because they REJECT Christ - the free gift to save their souls.

We are condemned already,...in other words, you have to be condemned before you are saved,..so the reason for condemnation is so much that they are non-believers, but rather that they do not have a living spirit. Receipt of that living spirit is very simple, because Christ has already been judged for all sin. Whereever God might find righteousness in us, He is then not bound by any of His past, present or future commitments to not afford us grace by regenerating us. By our having faith in Christ, the situation is setup where God's work provides that salvation to us, the one already condemned.

Those who end up in the Lake of Fire are those who in the future have been found good for nothingness. It's not per a disciplinary action against those who rejected Christ, rather they are condemned already and the faith in Christ results in God saving us by His grace.

148 posted on 06/17/2004 5:44:46 AM PDT by Cvengr (;^))
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To: Cvengr

so much...should read 'not so much'


149 posted on 06/17/2004 5:45:49 AM PDT by Cvengr (;^))
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To: Cvengr; California74

I was just quoting Calvin. I'm not here to argue doctrine. Calvin may be wrong. I may be wrong. You may be wrong. I just made the observation that Calvin was more or less in agreement with California74's statement. Maybe I misread it. It seemed pretty plain to me.


150 posted on 06/17/2004 5:50:52 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: California74; P-Marlowe
"The whole reason the non-believer is condemned is because they don't believe that Christ died on the cross for them! Because they REJECT Christ - the free gift to save their souls."
So the best method to save souls is to hide the gospel quickly and make sure nobody ever hears it again, since the criteria for condemnation is rejection of the gospel. No gospel to reject, no condemnation.

;-)

151 posted on 06/17/2004 5:54:21 AM PDT by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: jboot
Eskimo to priest: "If we did not know we had sinned, would we still go to hell?"

Priest: "No, not if you didn't know."

Eskimo: "Then why did you tell us?"

152 posted on 06/17/2004 6:20:41 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

LOL, poor Eskimos.


153 posted on 06/17/2004 6:29:29 AM PDT by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: jude24; P-Marlowe
I think its time to reinstate the KOETT.

Jude!!!

154 posted on 06/17/2004 6:52:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: DoorGunner

Is that Calvin speaking in those John quotes?

If so...WOW!


155 posted on 06/17/2004 6:56:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins; jude24
Jude!!!

That should read: Jude {!}{!}{!}

156 posted on 06/17/2004 6:57:02 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: xzins; DoorGunner
Is that Calvin speaking in those John quotes? If so...WOW!

Quoting Charles Spurgeon: "It would not be possible for me too earnestly to press upon you the importance of reading the expositions of that prince among men, John Calvin..." Quoting Arminius: "I affirm that he excels beyond comparison in the interpretation of Scripture, and that his commentaries ought to be more highly valued than all that is handed down to us by the Library of the Fathers; so that I acknowledge him to have possessed above most others, or rather above all other men, what may be called an eminent gift of prophecy" [from Spurgeon's "Commenting and Commentaries", 1876].

I would consider that an endorsement by Arminius for Calvin to be admitted to the KOETT, wouldn't you?

157 posted on 06/17/2004 7:00:25 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
but that afterwards believers will not escape unpunished who, despising the grace of Christ, chose to have him as the Author of death rather than of life. [Emphasis added]

Is this saying that some get so far as to be believers but PRIOR TO REGENERATION fall from that state?

Or

so far as to be believers but fall from that state

or

so far as to be believers but are punished in the flesh?

158 posted on 06/17/2004 7:01:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Arminius endorses Calvin to the Koett.

Jude endorses Jude to the Koett!

{!}

Amazing...these are some extremely thought-provoking quotes.


159 posted on 06/17/2004 7:04:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: P-Marlowe

I am no teenager, but I am the "new convert"-- just a bit over a year ago now. And, I've realized through my own experience that theological minutae brings no one to Christ. My family is, to varying degrees, "lost", and I realized almost immediately upon my own transformation that the only way I could reach them was by modeling Christ every minute of every day of my life. Of course, I fail miserably at that, but each day I try afresh, and bit by bit, we're all of us following Him more and more each day. I read and study, but try never to preach-- I just use what I learn to improve my own behavior, and to answer questions when they arise.

And so, God is working in our lives! The outcome is not in doubt.

And, that's why these kinds of theological arguments bother me-- I know that if any of my family were to read them, they would be alienated and the cause of Christ would be set back immeasurably. Only those whose faith is already strong can pass by this stuff with a sigh.


160 posted on 06/17/2004 7:11:14 AM PDT by walden
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