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Homosexuality Avoidable, Doctor Tells Parents
San Francisco Faith: The Bay Areas Lay Catholic Newspaper. ^ | Dr. Joseph Nicolosi

Posted on 02/26/2004 3:03:45 PM PST by Jaysun

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To: hmong
Two words: De-caffinated coffee.
101 posted on 02/27/2004 12:20:59 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: realpatriot71
I have heard of strange medical cases dealing with a baby's developement in the womb.
102 posted on 02/27/2004 12:22:15 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: BykrBayb
It's good that you are intelligent enough to read between the lines of this poorly written article. I do not give PHD's who publish the benefit of the doubt. I assume that they will write exactly what they mean to say. The article states that homeschooled boys have a higher risk of growing up gay because of social isolation, then goes on to say that there are other variables that may offset the basic risk of homeschooling. I dispute the entire premise of the article. Don't throw around accusations.
103 posted on 02/27/2004 12:37:49 AM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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To: netmilsmom
Thanks for drawing your sword, mom. However, I don't think this person is worth debating. She's accusing us of not fully grasping the gist of the article, when she's the one with the disingenuous argument. Me thinks she?s just trying to pick a fight.
104 posted on 02/27/2004 12:42:32 AM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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To: TheWriterInTexas
You probably right that homeschoolers are more sensitive. It would be interesting to note how many of the folks who read the article as Netmilsmom and I did are hsers. I see the other side, but if that argument is the one the author intended, he sure was sloppy about it.
105 posted on 02/27/2004 12:46:59 AM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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To: The Westerner
I recall Psychology Today, or some other similar publication they made us read for class, about 25 years ago. But probably the best thing to do now is just go net surfing on: +"identical twin" +separated +homosexuality - and see what pops up.

The issue is extremely complicated (what aspect of human behavior is not?). But those who fall back on the "it's purely genetic" arguement, have failed to explain these away.

106 posted on 02/27/2004 1:13:42 AM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: Marie
I see the other side, but if that argument is the one the author intended, he sure was sloppy about it.

It's somewhat hard to articulate the idea that home-schoolers aren't being picked on while also saying that they have an increased risk of problems caused by not interacting with peers. Anywho, boys need to have someone around to teach them things such as how to spit and how to burn things with a magnifying glass. I think that we can all agree that those things are very important. :o)
107 posted on 02/27/2004 1:14:47 AM PST by Jaysun (No matter how rich a man is, he can only drink 30-40 beers a day.)
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To: hmong
Stats--I don't see any p or f value in this article or your statement."""

What statement? What are you talking about?

108 posted on 02/27/2004 3:29:14 AM PST by In_25_words_or_less
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To: hmong
This is the truth. I swear I heard this on NPR, and they were quite proud of it.

When the APA changed the DSM to remove homosexuality as a deviant behavior, it wasn't politics per say. It was that the head of the organization at the time was a closet queen and came out afterward. Dropped his wife and kids to join the other team.

My ex-boss, a psychiatrist, confirmed the story as well known.
109 posted on 02/27/2004 5:14:06 AM PST by netmilsmom (Don't put a question mark where God put a period.)
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To: Marie
It's funny because originally the main focus of my post was to defend you then I said, "Naw! SHE can take care of herself."

Well done!
110 posted on 02/27/2004 5:20:56 AM PST by netmilsmom (Don't put a question mark where God put a period.)
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To: capitan_refugio; netmilsmom
Yes, I'd really like a reference on that, too.
111 posted on 02/27/2004 5:30:32 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: Jaysun
A classmate of mine who became a homosexual:

Absent divorced Dad
Abusive Stepfather
Close relationship with mother and grandmother
Mean older brother
Mother headed up "Home-Ec"-type rural kids group and made him an active member (cooking, sewing, crafts)
Mother encouraged his singing and acting
Lived in a trailer and had no physical outdoor activity
112 posted on 02/27/2004 6:16:01 AM PST by agrarianlady
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To: Jaysun; All; everyone; SOMEONE; Everybody; Kim_in_Tulsa; diotima; TxBec; SLB; BibChr; JenB; ...
I'm not saying that home-schooling produces homosexuals. I am saying that parents who home-school have an additional burden of being concerned about these issues.

Actually, I do disagree with this. I would be more concerned if my son went to a public school where "lifestyle choices" are to be considered normal and even embraced. In our homeschool, my husband and I have the opportunity to raise men who understand what normal is...who love others as they are commanded, but do not accept aberrant behavior as something acceptable.

Thought-provoking homeschool ping. Read the whole article, it's pretty interesting.

113 posted on 02/27/2004 6:32:02 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: 2Jedismom
It was surprising to find someone who bucks the system on homosexuality spews the party line on homeschooling. "Socialization"!

Dan
114 posted on 02/27/2004 6:36:48 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Jaysun
To begin, I would say that I think home-schooled children have a particular vulnerability for a number of reasons. The primary reason, especially for the boy (and I'll be focusing primarily on boys), is that it isolates him from his peers.

It does? I think I can stop reading right here. This person is obviously clueless about homeschooling. I am NEVER home because my three BOYS are constantly out and about. They also all have quite an interest in girls. This goes for the many, many homeschool families I've known in the thirteen years I've been homeschooling. Of course, what good is anecdotal evidence?

115 posted on 02/27/2004 6:44:42 AM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (SAVE THE BLACK FLY (This tag line is getting old...any suggestions?))
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To: Jaysun; 2Jedismom; SpookBrat; Fidgit; Carry_Okie
**The article brings up the valid point that children who are home schooled aren't always exposed to other boys or men **

I strongly disagree. It has been my experience parents who home educate do NOT isolate their children from others or the community as a whole. Quite the opposite.

I've home educated for almost 9 years and am administrator for a private school *for* home schoolers...not a charter. Private home schoolers are active in their community and actually have fathers involved in their everyday life, instruction and character molding.

While at an Art Museum field trip a few months ago (with a few mothers and children - 5 of which were teen boys), a gentleman (I use that term loosely) came up to the boys and shared how sorry he was they were home schooled, that being with their mommies all day was akin to abuse and they'd turn out weird.

His comments were made in total ignorance, as are the comments made by the psychobabble 'professional' in this article, imo.

116 posted on 02/27/2004 6:47:42 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
Yeah, but if you keep reading, the guy flip-flops around a lot...

He's does such a poor job of getting his point across that I wonder about his psychological stability! LOL He just comes across poorly, and we would all be better off if he'd keep his opinions to himself till he figures it out.
117 posted on 02/27/2004 6:48:46 AM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: BykrBayb
I'm guessing your right. Homeschoolers seem to be a pretty sensitive bunch.
118 posted on 02/27/2004 6:52:12 AM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
**It does? I think I can stop reading right here. This person is obviously clueless about homeschooling. I am NEVER home because my three BOYS are constantly out and about. They also all have quite an interest in girls. This goes for the many, many homeschool families I've known in the thirteen years I've been homeschooling. Of course, what good is anecdotal evidence? **

Yep!

119 posted on 02/27/2004 6:54:13 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: netmilsmom
So let me get this right: As homeschoolers we are to believe our children have a higher chance of being homosexual ,because we pay attention to our children and give them the highest priority in our lives.

And we should believe that children, who spend more of their time in a homosexual driven environment ( see public school NEA), away from parental control ,and influenced by peers and trendy fads, are less likely to become homosexuals.

Okay ... right.

Why are we such a threat to the these people? Could it be that homeschooling actually produces more future patriots than public school does?

Perhaps I would consider a study like this after they had tracked 10,000 home-schoolers for 20 years. Please.. this is rubbish.

I can hypothesize as well: Homosexuals are a product of a lack of parenting, an internal conflict with sexuality, which is caused by too many spankings, parents who were over critical of children touching themselves, umm.. lets see what else?.. Oh , toilet training control issues, and allowing boys to play docter at too early an age.

How is that? Do I get it have it published?

120 posted on 02/27/2004 6:56:25 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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