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To: nolu chan
Secession is not a Legislative Act. It may prove to be quite difficult to put an Official State Seal on it.

"Public acts" is what Article IV says. All the more reason for Congress to set the process if it can't have the same proof as a marriage.

I see you do not want to read anything the Supreme Court says, and not you do not want to read the official publication of the Congress on the matter.

Sure don't. The only thing the Supreme Court is good for is to have legal say to avoid chaos and anarchy. If a Supreme Court judge has bad judgment, then we try harder to pick better ones. I'm not going to agree with anyone just because they're a judge.

If you tried to purchase a law book to educate yourself on the matter, you probably could not even identify the relevant subject matter in which the law book would be found.

No need for a law book. The Constitution was written for a fair-minded people to read. It's lawyers and activist judges that are destroying our Constitutional freedoms. It's better to read from the Constitution itself.

Your qualifications as an expert are impressive.

Every citizen is an expert. It's what "of the people" means.

707 posted on 03/11/2004 8:33:31 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: #3Fan
[#3Fan] "Public acts" is what Article IV says.

U.S. CONST. Art 4, Sec 1

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

It says Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.

It then says And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Secession is neither a Legislative nor Judicial Act. Secession is not a document. "Proving an Act" pursuant to Art 4, Sec 1, involves a showing that a document provided for use in court is authentic. For a Legislative Act, affixation of the official seal of the state is the prescribed method to "Prove an Act." The Congress not only MAY prescribe laws for states to prove their acts, CONGRESS ENACTED SUCH LAWS.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/28/parts/v/chapters/115/sections/section%5F1738.html

United States Code

TITLE 28 - JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE

PART V - PROCEDURE

CHAPTER 115 - EVIDENCE; DOCUMENTARY

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U.S. Code as of: 01/22/02

Section 1738. State and Territorial statutes and judicial proceedings; full faith and credit

The Acts of the legislature of any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or copies thereof, shall be authenticated by affixing the seal of such State, Territory or Possession thereto.

The records and judicial proceedings of any court of any such State, Territory or Possession, or copies thereof, shall be proved or admitted in other courts within the United States and its Territories and Possessions by the attestation of the clerk and seal of the court annexed, if a seal exists, together with a certificate of a judge of the court that the said attestation is in proper form.

Such Acts, records and judicial proceedings or copies thereof, so authenticated, shall have the same full faith and credit in every court within the United States and its Territories and Possessions as they have by law or usage in the courts of such State, Territory or Possession from which they are taken.

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The Act of May 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 122) states

"Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

That the acts of the legislatures of the several states shall be authenticated by having the seal of their respective states affixed thereto:

That the records and judicial proceedings of the courts of any state, shall be proved or admitted in any other court within the United States, by the attestation of the clerk, and the seal of the court annexed, if there be a seal, together with a certificate of the judge, chief justice, or presiding magistrate, as the case may be, that the said attestation is in due form."

717 posted on 03/11/2004 9:46:39 PM PST by nolu chan
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