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To: Gianni
I'm not aware that people have claimed that Southern actions in 1860-61 were identical to the actions of the revolutionaries (the first ones, in 1776).

Oh puleeze. Start with reply 204 on this thread and take it from there. Check out the holy trinity of southron thought - Tommy DiLorenzo, Chuck Adams, and the Kennedy boys - and count how many times they refer to the actions of our Founders as 'secession' from the Britain. It's a ridiculous attempt to connect the southron cause with that of the Founding Fathers and it's laughable.

327 posted on 03/02/2004 9:52:40 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; Gianni; 4ConservativeJustices
Abe Lincoln's (in)famous shawl. In color it is beige with brown designs and looks like it came straight off an old lady's couch, or in the winter, her head.


330 posted on 03/02/2004 9:58:03 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: Non-Sequitur
secede

\Se"cede"\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. Seceded; p. pr. & vb. n. Seceding.] [L. secedere, secessum; pref se- aside + cedere to go, move. See Cede.] To withdraw from fellowship, communion, or association; to separate one's self by a solemn act; to draw off; to retire; especially, to withdraw from a political or religious body.

What the revolutionaries did July 4, 1776 was secession. That you do not like it is immaterial.

335 posted on 03/02/2004 10:11:48 AM PST by Gianni (Please, use the word "reality" in quotes at all times.)
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