#1563 [nolu chan] Abraham Lincoln was a Southern poor white, of illegitimate birth, poorly educated and unusually ugly, awkward, ill-dressed. He liked smutty stories and was a politician down to his toes. Aristocrats -- Jeff Davis, Seward and their ilk -- despised him, and indeed he had little outwardly that compelled respect.#1565 [#3Fan] Proof that neoconfederates are full of hate.
#1587 [nolu chan] The quote is from a New Yorker. The quote is from a Black New Yorker. The quote is from a Black New Yorker and founding member of the NAACP. The quote is from William Edward Burghardt DuBois, May, 1922.
#1587 [nolu chan] Now, #3Idiot, prove that William Edward Burghardt DuBois was a neoconfederate who was full of hate.
#1595 [#3Fan trapped and weaseling] You repeated his words without attributing his quote to him. That makes them your words.
#1599 [nolu chan] Those words cannot render me "a neoconfederate full of hate" without rendering W.E.B. DuBois a "neoconfederate full of hate."
#1605 [#3Fan] He's a New Yorker full of hate, you're a neoconfederate full of hate, as most neoconfederates are..
You are just a second-rate hate-filled little man who calls W.E.B. DuBois a New Yorker full of hate.
Perhaps you would care to explain why a founder of the NAACP, a New York Black man with a Ph.D. from Harvard, would be full of hate for Abraham Lincoln?
Telling the truth is not hate.
It would appear that you are unable to prove your absurd contention that W.E.B. DuBois was a NewYorker full of hate, much less a Neo-Confederate full of hate.
Further, it would appear that you are unable to provide any explanation why a founder of the NAACP, a New York Black man with a Ph.D. from Harvard, would be full of hate for Abraham Lincoln.
Nor do you deny the factual nature of the remarks of W.E.B. DuBois.
Abraham Lincoln was a Southern poor white,
Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
poorly educated
Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
and unusually ugly,
Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
awkward,
Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
ill-dressed.
Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
He liked smutty stories
Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
and was a politician down to his toes.
Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
Aristocrats -- Jeff Davis, Seward and their ilk -- despised him,
Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
Did you even notice that DuBois negatively refers to Davis, Seward and their ilk?
and indeed he had little outwardly that compelled respect.
Perhaps this can be argued as opinion and not fact.
of illegitimate birth,
This may be the only point subject to real contention.
And while you are justifying your condemnation of W.E.B. DuBois as a New Yorker full of hate, or a Neo-Confederate full of hate, consider the continuation of what he wrote back in 1922.
But in that curious human way he was big inside. He had reserves and depths and when habit and convention were torn away there was something left to Lincoln-nothing to most of his contemners. There was something left, so that at the crisis he was big enough to be inconsistent -- cruel, merciful; peace-loving, a fighter; despising Negroes and letting them fight and vote; protecting slavery and freeing slaves. He was a man -- a big, inconsistent, brave man.
There is an honest attempt to be accurate. There is no varnish -- and there is no hate.
The only hate to be found in this was expressed by #3Fan.
If that's what he said and he meant it, he was.
Perhaps you would care to explain why a founder of the NAACP, a New York Black man with a Ph.D. from Harvard, would be full of hate for Abraham Lincoln?
I don't know nor do I care.
Telling the truth is not hate. It would appear that you are unable to prove your absurd contention that W.E.B. DuBois was a NewYorker full of hate, much less a Neo-Confederate full of hate.
His words if he meant them.
Further, it would appear that you are unable to provide any explanation why a founder of the NAACP, a New York Black man with a Ph.D. from Harvard, would be full of hate for Abraham Lincoln.
I don't care who he was or what he did or what he thought.
Nor do you deny the factual nature of the remarks of W.E.B. DuBois. Abraham Lincoln was a Southern poor white, Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact? poorly educated Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
Not a fact, Lincoln was a lawyer.
and unusually ugly, Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
Not a fact. Many men aren't purty so there's nithing "unusual" about it.
awkward, Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
Not a fact. Lincoln was a lawyer, how could he be awkward.
ill-dressed. Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
Not a fact. He dresses OK by me.
He liked smutty stories Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
Churchill did too.
and was a politician down to his toes. Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
Not a fact. A "poltician down to his toes" could not have wrote the Gettysburg Address.
Aristocrats -- Jeff Davis, Seward and their ilk -- despised him, Can you possibly deny that W.E.B. DuBois merely stated a fact?
He got two facts.
Did you even notice that DuBois negatively refers to Davis, Seward and their ilk? and indeed he had little outwardly that compelled respect.
Not a fact. He is the most respected president.
Perhaps this can be argued as opinion and not fact. of illegitimate birth, This may be the only point subject to real contention. And while you are justifying your condemnation of W.E.B. DuBois as a New Yorker full of hate, or a Neo-Confederate full of hate, consider the continuation of what he wrote back in 1922. But in that curious human way he was big inside. He had reserves and depths and when habit and convention were torn away there was something left to Lincoln-nothing to most of his contemners. There was something left, so that at the crisis he was big enough to be inconsistent -- cruel, merciful; peace-loving, a fighter; despising Negroes and letting them fight and vote; protecting slavery and freeing slaves. He was a man -- a big, inconsistent, brave man. There is an honest attempt to be accurate. There is no varnish -- and there is no hate. The only hate to be found in this was expressed by #3Fan.
So he didn't mean those words. You twisted the truth again by quoting out of context. See, this is why nothing you guys say can be trusted.
I've heard he had the snappiest shawl in Washington in his day.