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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Union Gen. "Beast" Butler certainly wanted Union troops from a different state there for a reason - at Union polling places.

Yeah, and if you would keep yourself informed a little better you'd know that they were there because pro-slavers, pro-confederates, and anti-war activists threatened to burn New York on election day. No one was shot in the voting booths so you guy's claim that they were to shoot anyone voting for McClellan is ridiculous and a lie, plus it shows just how gullible you guys can by. Try using some common sense for a change.

1,218 posted on 03/22/2004 10:41:35 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: #3Fan
...they [Beast Butler and the troops] were there [New York] because pro-slavers, pro-confederates, and anti-war activists threatened to burn New York on election day.

What about Delaware? Here is some more from Congressman Saulsbury (DE) (January 6, 1864, page 102 of the Congressional Globe):

Well, then, since the Senator [Lane from Indiana] has chosen to deny that there has been any impropriety on the part of the military in the freedom of elections in the States, I cannot sit quietly as a Senator from what was once a State in the American Union, and the first to adopt the Constitution under which we live, without saying to that Senator that I have seen the armed soldiery (acting under the command, I suppose, of “the powers that be”) appear at the polls at which I myself had a right according to the constitution and the laws of my State, to vote, and there, by positive interference, drive men from the polls, take some men who had done naught in violation of the law of the land either Federal or State, and incarcerate them in the county prison; and no longer ago, than last November, in the county in which I live, as soon as the voters arrived on the ground, before they offered to vote, before they had approached the polls, the soldiery seized them, fastened them up, and kept them confined.

Sir, a majority of the legal voters of the State of Delaware were during the last special election in our State – an election called to fill a vacancy which had occurred in the other branch of Congress – disfranchised, not allowed to cast their votes in that state; and why? Because a majority of the legal voters of that State did not approve of the action of this administration. But, says, the Senator, nobody has been interfered with by the military power of this country in reference to his right to vote, who was not otherwise a rebel or a rebel sympathizer. Sir, I mean no disrespect to that Senator, for I know the kindness of his heart, but such expressions have become so common that they can have no weight, even when uttered by a Senator.

Take my own State. From the commencement of these unfortunate troubles, in which brother is found arrayed against brother, has there been any attempt in that State, by any political organization, or even by a mob, even by two persons united together, to violate any law of this government, to give aid and encouragement, by act or deed, to those who are in revolt against the Government? I defy that Senator, or any other Senator on this floor, to show where any attempt has been made by any political organization in that State to tear down the fabric of this once proud and glorious Union.

Lincoln got less than a quarter of the Delaware vote in 1860.

1,240 posted on 03/22/2004 11:31:23 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: #3Fan; nolu chan; 4ConservativeJustices
you guy's claim that they were to shoot anyone voting for McClellan is ridiculous and a lie

Nobody said they were there to shoot anyone voting for McClellan. As a matter of fact, all that was done was to post the words of Spoons on the matter. From them, you apparently drew the same conclusion as McClellan supporters.

1,273 posted on 03/23/2004 5:30:50 AM PST by Gianni (Sarcasm, the other white meat.)
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