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To: #3Fan
They had elections. Their elected representatives were in the statehouse, not the bullies in the convention hall.

There's a disconnect here.

1) The people of Texas elected their STATE representatives via elections (vote #1). Congressmen. Senators and Representatives. The Governor. PUBLIC Officials whose acts are PUBLIC. Public officials who are not empowered to alter their form of government, they must enact legislation conformable to their Constitution

2) The people of Texas demanded a vote on secession. The people of Texas elected delegates to a constitutional convention (vote #2). These delegates are the SOVERIEGN representatives of the people, empowered to alter or abolish their form of government at will.

3) The governor of Texas (a public official) called the legislature into session hoping that the legislature (public officials) would refuse to recognize the validity of the constitutional delegates.

4) The legislature recognized the legality of constitutional delegates, and promptly voted (vote #3) to end the special session.

5) The Sovereign delegates (see #2 above) elected by the people, and recognized as duly elected by the legislature (see #1 above) convened. These delegates were NOT the legislature. Among them were several members of the Texas Supreme Court, including Chief Justice Oran Roberts, who presided over the convention.

6) The delegates to the convention voted to secede (vote #4), and put the matter before the people.

7) The people of Texas voted to secede (vote #5).

Re-read #4. Their elected representatives deferred to their elected delegates. The legislature did not object. Please post your documentation of a "coup".

1,031 posted on 03/19/2004 12:48:45 PM PST by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross - HIS love for us kept Him there. (||)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
There's a disconnect here. 1) The people of Texas elected their STATE representatives via elections (vote #1). Congressmen. Senators and Representatives. The Governor. PUBLIC Officials whose acts are PUBLIC. Public officials who are not empowered to alter their form of government, they must enact legislation conformable to their Constitution

They dissolved the republican government before attempting secession thereby violating Article IV, Section 4. If they're to secede and form a new government, they're to keep the republican government in place until secession is complete, following Article IV, Section 1 in the process of seceding.

2) The people of Texas demanded a vote on secession. The people of Texas elected delegates to a constitutional convention (vote #2).

Not true. Some were kept out. That's what makes it a coup.

These delegates are the SOVERIEGN representatives of the people, empowered to alter or abolish their form of government at will.

Nope, they are bullies depriving the citizens of their republican government. They were not elected in free elections, nor due process elections. The governer himself knew this.

3) The governor of Texas (a public official) called the legislature into session hoping that the legislature (public officials) would refuse to recognize the validity of the constitutional delegates.

As they should've done according to Article IV, Section 4.

4) The legislature recognized the legality of constitutional delegates, and promptly voted (vote #3) to end the special session.

That was unconstitutional according to Article IV, Section 4.

5) The Sovereign delegates (see #2 above) elected by the people,...

Some were kept out making it moreso a coup.

...and recognized as duly elected by the legislature (see #1 above) convened.

Unconstitutionally according to Article IV, Section 4.

These delegates were NOT the legislature.

Thereby making it a coup and in violation of Article IV, Section 4.

Among them were several members of the Texas Supreme Court, including Chief Justice Oran Roberts, who presided over the convention.

Immaterial.

6) The delegates to the convention voted to secede (vote #4), and put the matter before the people.

They didn't have the power to do that seeing as how they were not elected by due process.

7) The people of Texas voted to secede (vote #5).

After the coup making it immaterial. Saddam got 100% of the vote also.

Re-read #4. Their elected representatives deferred to their elected delegates.

Unconstitutionally according to Article IV, Section 4.

The legislature did not object.

In violation of Article IV, Section 4.

Please post your documentation of a "coup".

You just proved a coup yourself. Some were kept out of the process further proving the coup. What about my Alec Baldwin example. Would you consider that legitimate?

1,033 posted on 03/19/2004 1:03:02 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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