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An opposing view: Descendant of black Confederate soldier speaks at museum
Thomasville Times-Enterprise ^ | 24 Feb 2004 | Mark Lastinger

Posted on 02/25/2004 11:52:26 AM PST by 4CJ

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To: #3Fan; GOPcapitalist
[#3Fan] The Declarations of Secession clearly say secession was for slavery. Read them.

Oh, we can do better than that. We can ask the expert on these boards to address your rare attempt at an actual point.

Pinging........

1,421 posted on 03/24/2004 8:13:17 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus
For as long as the People draw breath, bucko, they are the Sovereign, which is the alpha principle of American government. The People are the ontological Power in this country -- legally, and every other way. If you say differently, you're a traitor and a renegade.

Bump. From a founding father:

What is a Constitution? It is the form of government, delineated by the mighty hand of the people, in which certain first principles of fundamental laws are established. The constitution is certain and fixed; it contains the permanent will of the people, and is the supreme law of the land; it is paramount to the power of the legislature, and can be revoked or altered only by the authority that made it. The life-giving principle and the death-doing stroke must proceed from the same hand. What are legislatures? Creatures of the constitution; they owe their existence to the constitution: they derive their powers from the constitution: it is their commission; and therefore, all their acts must be conformable to it, or else they will be void. The constitution is the work or will of the people themselves, in their original, sovereign and unlimited capacity. Law is the work or will of the legislature, in their derivative and subordinate capacity. The one is the work of the creator, and the other of the creature. The constitution fixes limits to the exercise of legislative authority, and prescribes the orbit within which it must move. In short, gentlemen, the constitution is the sun of the political system, around which all legislative, executive and judicial bodies must revolve. Whatever may be the case in other countries, yet, in this, there can be no doubt, that every act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is absolutely void.
Justice Paterson, Vanhorne's Lessee v. Dorrance, 2 Dall. 304 C.C.D.Pa. (1795)

1,422 posted on 03/24/2004 8:14:37 AM PST by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross - HIS love for us kept Him there. (||)
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To: #3Fan
With you guy's crazy theories such as voters being shot in voting booths, ......

That was your fiction, amigo. Your straw man.

1,423 posted on 03/24/2004 8:16:52 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: #3Fan
You guy's beliefs border on the insane.

Appeal to motive in lieu of support. Argumentum ad hominem.

Pretty tawdry act you run, amigo.

1,424 posted on 03/24/2004 8:20:54 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: Gianni
anarchist.

To be a Lincoln man, and do what Lincoln wanted to do in the face of the Constitution, he'd have to be a bit of an anarchist, now wouldn't he?

1,425 posted on 03/24/2004 8:25:58 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: #3Fan
i understand your aversion to BOOKS!

cretins of the racist, lunatic fringe always HATE KNOWLEDGE, especially when it conflicts with their IGNORANT notions of what is correct (or Politically Correct for that matter).

i notice that you also failed to comment on the TRUE WORDS of a serving General Officer of the US Army (who, btw, is from VT-not a dixie partisan area!). (didn't like that, did you Mr Clymer???) do you think HE LIED???? PLEASE comment on that! (if you dare)

and YES there was death, privation, starvation (including MANY who died of hunger in the GUARD FORCE!) & MASSIVE loss of life among the unfortunate inmates at Camp Sumpter,but NONE of it was INTENTIONAL.

otoh, the RAPES,ROBBERIES,TORTURE, DENIAL of clothing/shelter/blankets/food/clean water and coldblooded murder of at least 15,000 defenseless POWs WAS INTENTIONAL on the part of the lincoln regime! that too is FACT!

free dixie,sw

1,426 posted on 03/24/2004 8:26:33 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: nolu chan
Goddam, son -- I can't even see my keyboard!!! -- Going by feel!

ROFL!

1,427 posted on 03/24/2004 8:33:35 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: #3Fan
NOPE. i PERSONALLY liked exposing 'ole WPs ignorance & hatefulness.

he TOO served the TRUE CAUSE, by making long,boring,stupid,off-point,HATE-filled,arrogantly ignorant statements, which were EASILY disproved, though i DISPISE scalawags & dixieborn TURNCOATS, above all other low forms of life. (even the worst of the damnyankees is above a scalawag in my estimation.)

btw, hasn't anyone told you that i'm one of those "muddy coloured people" that mr lincoln, the WAR CRIMINAL & tyrant, HATED/feared????

i'm what used to be called a half-breed, in less PC times. my father was a fullblood (and a Green Corn Dancer, of which he was PROUD till his dying day.);my mother is white.

free dixie,sw

1,428 posted on 03/24/2004 8:37:47 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Gianni
THANK YOU!

free the southland,sw

1,429 posted on 03/24/2004 8:48:08 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
!!!!!
1,430 posted on 03/24/2004 8:51:55 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan; Gianni
yet ANOTHER RACIST post from our resident cretin!

you're on a roll.

btw, i could NOT care less what you think of me PERSONALLY, but i do resent your INTENTIONALLY insensitive/racist comments about our tribe's customs/traditions & your OPEN disrespect for the "older & more traditional members" of the group.

my prophesy about your lack of presence on FR will likely come true & soon.

free dixie,sw

1,431 posted on 03/24/2004 8:58:09 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Gianni
EXACTLY!

the documents at the National POW Center at Andersonville CLEARLY state that the MANY PRIVATIONS at that unfortunate place were NOT intentional. period,end of story!

the same displays state that MANY of the GUARDS died of malnutrition.

free dixie,sw

1,432 posted on 03/24/2004 9:03:11 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan
PRESIDENT DAVIS offered to release ALL the Union POWS.

lincoln, the cruel tyrant, REFUSED to accept them back to US lines.free dixie,sw

1,433 posted on 03/24/2004 9:06:12 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: #3Fan
PRESIDENT DAVIS offered to release ALL the Union POWS.

lincoln, the cruel tyrant, REFUSED to accept them back to US lines.

the actual letter to Stanton still exists, sadly for you damnyankee worshipers at the feet of lincoln the tyrant & clayfooted saint.

free dixie,sw

1,434 posted on 03/24/2004 9:06:28 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: nolu chan
LOL!

free dixie,sw

1,435 posted on 03/24/2004 9:08:23 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: lentulusgracchus
NOPE! it's just that he's a DUNCE and a FOOL.

i used to call him a DUMBBUNNY, but i received a freepmail from a lady, who told me i was insulting RABBITS! i stopped!

free dixie,sw

1,436 posted on 03/24/2004 9:12:54 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: nolu chan; rustbucket; stand watie; GOPcapitalist; billbears; stainlessbanner; Aurelius; ...
Pinging.....you guys gotta see this.....

"LG"

1,437 posted on 03/24/2004 10:10:50 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: stand watie
Wups, I pinged you to something you'd seen already.....

i used to call him a DUMBBUNNY, but i received a freepmail from a lady, who told me i was insulting RABBITS! i stopped!

Rabbits can't help it that they're stupid, but stupid people can help it that they post like rabbits.

I really liked nolu chan's rant -- it was great! Good way to get the blood flowing......and clean out the sinuses, too.

1,438 posted on 03/24/2004 10:17:40 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus
LOL! Classic!


1,439 posted on 03/24/2004 10:20:49 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: lentulusgracchus
He's right, this flag is the most misunderstood flag/symbol in the world. It's nice to see reason coming from a Black in relation to the Confederate flag.
1,440 posted on 03/24/2004 10:21:11 AM PST by HELLRAISER II (Give us another tax break Mr. President)
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