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To: Sabertooth
Let's try all the NYT and WP , not too mention the LAT articles you have used to bash the President.C,mon, if you have a sh read of intellectual honesty, you have to admit any story from these sources is as good as a script from McAuliffe's office. You've been overjoyed to use them as hammers on President Bush.When he comes out against gay marriage, somehow, he is listening to you,therefore ,your constant carping attacks on him helped him see the light?

You know, sometimes you do post things that are interesting and I can actually enjoy agreeing with.This new thing about how you and the rest of We-hate-Bush clowder about helping the President is very much like the We support the troops but not the War crowd. It does not stand scrutiny. It stand less scrutiny after reading some of the heavy thoughts I've seen posted over at LP. Good God, why don't you all call it Der Sturmer online and be done with it? Same rational thinking and same basic Uber Alles groupthink.

I have nothing to prove to you, frankly.You love to accuse others of being lockstep and groupthink, yet each one of your Kameraden file almost the same posts. I think there's a hell of a lot of transference going on there and it is a warning sign of bipolar syndrome.

Now, you and the rest of the clowder feel free to hack up a few hairballs, moan how offended and hurt you all are and sit on the fringe and convince yourselves that your claim of "helping" the President really flies. You sure can dish it out, but apparently not one of you can take it. Don't you have some illegal aliens to hunt down?

Cordially,

538 posted on 02/25/2004 6:09:43 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: gatorbait
Let's try all the NYT and WP , not too mention the LAT articles you have used to bash the President

Well, not only have you not been specific, and not only is this an appeal to emotion, it's also a fallacy of irrelevance.

You said that I paraphrased DU talking points. Let's see them.

Let's see one.

C,mon, if you have a sh read of intellectual honesty, you have to admit any story from these sources is as good as a script from McAuliffe's office. You've been overjoyed to use them as hammers on President Bush.When he comes out against gay marriage, somehow, he is listening to you,therefore ,your constant carping attacks on him helped him see the light?

Information from those sources stands or falls on its merits. If the information from, say, a NYT article seems shaky, then the more persuasive argument is against the information, not the NYT.

For example, at this post on a thread a few days ago about the NYT article "Disenchanted Bush Voters Consider Crossing Over," I said:

This article is crap. The men on the street who are cited are all using Democrat talking points: economy, no WMDs, body bags, etc. These are not the areas where internal GOP conflict has any resonance.

Is that a DU talking point?

You know, sometimes you do post things that are interesting and I can actually enjoy agreeing with.This new thing about how you and the rest of We-hate-Bush clowder about helping the President is very much like the We support the troops but not the War crowd. It does not stand scrutiny. It stand less scrutiny after reading some of the heavy thoughts I've seen posted over at LP. Good God, why don't you all call it Der Sturmer online and be done with it? Same rational thinking and same basic Uber Alles groupthink.

Not sure what this has to do with your allegation that I've paraphrased DU talking points, evidence of which you should be able to produce, since you claim that the positions I've taken don't "stand scrutiny."

Why don't you scrutinize my posts, and see what you can find in the way of paraphrasing DU talking points.

I have nothing to prove to you, frankly.You love to accuse others of being lockstep and groupthink, yet each one of your Kameraden file almost the same posts. I think there's a hell of a lot of transference going on there and it is a warning sign of bipolar syndrome.

Well, you made an allegation and you've done nothing to support it with evidence, this ad hominem notwithstanding.

What DU talking points have I paraphrased?

Now, you and the rest of the clowder feel free to hack up a few hairballs, moan how offended and hurt you all are and sit on the fringe and convince yourselves that your claim of "helping" the President really flies. You sure can dish it out, but apparently not one of you can take it. Don't you have some illegal aliens to hunt down?

Is hunting down Illegal Aliens a DU talking point?

I guess I can picture one of them asking "Don't you have some illegal aliens to hunt down?"


542 posted on 02/25/2004 6:37:10 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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