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To: Sabertooth; Poohbah
In light of your threats, Sabrtooth, do you really wish to argue who's been the better supporter?

I also notice that you are ducking the questions again - no surprise there, you may not like having to make a definitive answer that myself or others could hold you to.

So, I'll ask again:
Who divides the party, is it the candidate whose position is in disagreement with a plank but wins a nomination DESPITE that or is the divisive influence those who lose the nomination battle but refuse to support the nominee?

Furthermore, should leaders of a political party expect that after a nomination battle, all those who were involved unite to win the general election? And how should they deal with those who refuse to support a nominee? Isn't distrust in the future a reasonable response to those who announce such a refusal?

If you take your disagreement with Rosario Marin's position on immigration past the primary, YOU, not Rosario Marin, are dividing the party. It's simple logic, Sabertooth. And all your strawman arguments about "false premise" and "my track record is better than yours" won't hide the fact that YOU are the one dividing the party.

My position on this is no different than that of Bret Schundler:
"Primaries are fine, but those who are not willing to come together after a primary must not be allowed to be in positions of leadership within our Party."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/570667/posts

If you were to ask Ollie North and Bret Schundler who the dividers are, you might not like the answer.
355 posted on 02/23/2004 11:23:03 AM PST by hchutch ("I never get involved with my own life. It's too much trouble." - Michael Garibaldi)
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To: hchutch
In light of your threats, Sabrtooth, do you really wish to argue who's been the better supporter?

At the end of this November, even in the worst case, I'll still have a better record of supporting GOP nominees than you.

I also notice that you are ducking the questions again - no surprise there, you may not like having to make a definitive answer that myself or others could hold you to.

So, I'll ask again:
Who divides the party, is it the candidate whose position is in disagreement with a plank but wins a nomination DESPITE that or is the divisive influence those who lose the nomination battle but refuse to support the nominee?

I don't answer false dilemmas, nor do I address every fallacy you post to me.

Politicians unite or divide based on the effects of their policies on the coalition.

If you take your disagreement with Rosario Marin's position on immigration past the primary, YOU, not Rosario Marin, are dividing the party. It's simple logic, Sabertooth. And all your strawman arguments about "false premise" and "my track record is better than yours" won't hide the fact that YOU are the one dividing the party.

You don't even know what a straw man is, do you?

In any case, if a candidate such as Rosario Marin is pro-Illegal Alien, and the party is against Illegal Aliens, then Rosario Marin is divisive.

My position on this is no different than that of Bret Schundler: "Primaries are fine, but those who are not willing to come together after a primary must not be allowed to be in positions of leadership within our Party."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/570667/posts

If you were to ask Ollie North and Bret Schundler who the dividers are, you might not like the answer.

Appeals to authority.

I've conceded your prerogative not to vote for Warner, and predicted that you'd rationalize why when you vote for a Democrat by default (at least, by your logic) it's different.


360 posted on 02/23/2004 11:42:49 AM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: hchutch; wirestripper; FairOpinion; Tamsey
do you really wish to argue who's been the better supporter

You've got a lot of nerve questioning the self-annointed arbiter of what is and is not acceptable at FR.

379 posted on 02/23/2004 12:31:53 PM PST by Howlin
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