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Dissension In The Ranks
American News Reel ^ | 1/31/04 | Doug Thompson

Posted on 01/31/2004 12:41:27 PM PST by jimkress

Had dinner with an old friend last night, a long-time Republican political operative who – in 1981 – talked me into taking a sabbatical from journalism and going to Washington as a press secretary to Congressman Paul Findley.

He’s been a Republican all his life. Grew up in a GOP family. Served more than one term as a county chairman as well as a Republican National Committeeman.

So it surprised me when he opened the dinner table conversation with: “I’m not going to vote for George W. Bush in November. I may vote for John Kerry if he’s the Democratic nominee.”

Strange things can happen in this world. Joe Gibbs can come out of retirement to coach the Washington Redskins one more time. Hell, the Carolina Panthers might even win the Super Bowl. But when a lifelong Republican tells me he might vote for John Kerry, I wait for a voice to start saying “you’re entering another dimension…next stop – The Twilight Zone.”

“I’m a Republican because I believe in less government, of letting states make the decisions that affect our lives,” he said. “I believe in a balanced budget. But my party no longer believes in any of these things. I can’t be a part of what I think is destroying this country.”

His comments echo what I have been hearing after three weeks on the campaign trail. Republicans are fed up with an administration that has created the largest federal bureaucracy ever, with record deficits and with increasing federal power and control over our lives.

But they’re not just fed up with George W. Bush, they’re fed up with a Republican-controlled Congress that passed the largest, most pork-laden transportation bill in history, that abandoned its promise to impose term limits and that broke most of the promises of the 1994 “Contract With America” that gave them control of Capitol Hill in the first place.

My friend’s theory: “You know the old bromide that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely? Well, my party has taken it step further. Absolute power leads to madness. It makes me, a Republican, long for Democrats back in control. That is pure madness but I can’t help it.”

I’ve been around politics as a journalist or an operative for nearly 40 years and the dissension within the GOP is the worst I’ve ever seen. At a Republican caucus earlier this week, California Republican Congressman Chris Cox headed a group of conservative members who told Speaker of the House Denny Hastert that a GOP Congress was being undermined by Bush's actions in the White House. One member reportedly said a GOP Congress could deal more effectively with a Democrat in the White House than they can with Bush.

“At least we know what to expect from a Democratic President,” he said.


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KEYWORDS: gop; immigrantlist
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To: Miss Marple
Oh gee, Miss Marple, you expect them to " think " and to then give a reasoned reply ? LOL
481 posted on 01/31/2004 5:57:00 PM PST by nopardons
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Truthfully 99% of the Freepers don't have a clue as to what you're going through Jack. Sounds like a story John Stossel may be interested in. Why not contact him to personally check out how dire the situation is?
482 posted on 01/31/2004 5:57:48 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: jpsb
Well, your drunkard, you wouldn't find it as enjoyable, if you were sober. LOL
483 posted on 01/31/2004 5:58:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
"Perhaps someday you'll manage to grow up, mature, and stop being petulant little kids."

You really haven't a clue as to how politics or life works, do you?

484 posted on 01/31/2004 5:59:54 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: MEG33
Oh gee.....I am a naughty,naughty girl. :-)
485 posted on 01/31/2004 6:00:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
How did I know I'd see you here eventually? yaaaaaay!
486 posted on 01/31/2004 6:00:49 PM PST by cyborg
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To: F16Fighter
Excellent post.

I have always been very sanguine about President Bush and his plans and the future of the Country, etc., etc. Check my previous posts and you'll see that it's true. But I'm afraid to say that I'm beginning to see it as you do. I understand that President Bush wants to be re-elected, and I know that compromises are inevitable but this latest fiaso w/Dr. Kay and the WMD have me reeling.

We lost 500+ boys, and now their families have to contemplate the idea that we didn't really have to go Iraq when we did. I'm not arguing that our military didn't do a wonderful thing by removing Hussein, but that was not the stated reason for going in. I'm even more stunned that our Intelligence Service is as incompetent as it seems to be right now.

I've said this before on other threads and don't really want to be repetitve, but if we were wrong about who has WMD it's very likely were wrong about who doesn't. I had quite a bit of faith in President Bush, and even supported him in policies I didn't agree with because compromise is unavoidable, but he has crossed a line and I don't think that can be denied. My faith in him as the sole person who can protect us against terrorist attacks is fading fast, and I'm none too happy about it.

487 posted on 01/31/2004 6:01:16 PM PST by AlbionGirl ("Ha cambiato occhi per la coda.")
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To: MEG33
Which you do so well ! :-)
488 posted on 01/31/2004 6:01:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: commish
So what do you really think, commish?
489 posted on 01/31/2004 6:02:19 PM PST by Phaedrus
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To: F16Fighter
Far MORE than you do, dear, far,far more.:-)
490 posted on 01/31/2004 6:02:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: cyborg
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............because you know me so well ? LOL
491 posted on 01/31/2004 6:03:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Beenliedto
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmate/2004/tmate040113.gif
492 posted on 01/31/2004 6:04:15 PM PST by KDD (Time makes more converts than reason.)
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To: tet68
I'm sorry but this I have yet to understand. How is voting one's beliefs to put a conservative to blame? Isn't Bush working for the citizens of the respective states? How do we hold politicians accountable? Writing letters of course, protests, etc. but ultimately by our votes

Conservatives were not to blame for Bush I losing in 1992. Bush was responsible for losing in 1992. He broke campaign promises and the citizens of the respective states held him accountable. By your argument, we should continue to vote time and time again for someone we disagree with just because he's 'our' guy. If Bush II loses in 2004, it will not be the fault of the conservatives that he upset with his liberal policies. It will ultimately be the fault of those who advised Bush that he could act without repercussion

493 posted on 01/31/2004 6:05:59 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: F16Fighter
Dubya is DEAD SERIOUS about eventually supporting Amnesty/Citizenry program for illegals

Your responses would be viewed in a better light if you didn't flat out lie.

He has said repeatedly that he is NOT in favor of ANY kind of blanket amnesty.

494 posted on 01/31/2004 6:06:22 PM PST by Howlin (If we don't post, will they exist?)
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To: AlbionGirl
Even Kay said that we should have gone in and gone in when we did. You've swallowed the DNC talking points and regurgitated them all over FGR. That's a INSULT to everyone here, who has a family member serving right now, or there themselves.
495 posted on 01/31/2004 6:06:37 PM PST by nopardons
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To: F16Fighter
I already spammed out the story from this morning about the Mexican military crossing the line to everyone on my media list. Four replies so far, requesting further info. Not bad for a Saturday.
496 posted on 01/31/2004 6:08:49 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
I am appalled at the problems ranchers,property owners have of illegals cutting fences,using property as outhouses,damaging property and livestock and moving drugs.My vote for Bush is in no way in approval of lack of protection for our borders.
497 posted on 01/31/2004 6:10:42 PM PST by MEG33 (God bless our armed forces)
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To: nopardons
My reply to F16 was perfectly civil, with a perfectly reasonable point of view, and if you took umbrage that is your perogative, but it is not my concern.

If you think for one minute that the families of those boys who perished aren't thinking about what I voiced then you don't know much about the loss of loved one. So if you want to discuss this in a civil manner then I'm available, but if you want to preach platitudes I'm not your girl.

498 posted on 01/31/2004 6:13:03 PM PST by AlbionGirl ("Ha cambiato occhi per la coda.")
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To: Howlin
You're not, by any chance, saying I'm an airhead poster, are you?

Fer cryin' out loud. Did you not make it to the end of my post where I said this?

"live threads... are not the most scintillating reading after the fact no matter WHO is doing the posting."

Chat is chat. This is a pointless discussion.
499 posted on 01/31/2004 6:18:33 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Jorge
Funny, in all the years I've been posting on FR, I've NEVER done this to ANY poster.

Well, then, you're missing out on one of the great joys of Free Republic. The "in forum" button is there for a reason. I suppose I'm a stalker of dozens of posters for using it. Somehow I don't feel bad about it.

This discussion has moved past the point of any relevance.
500 posted on 01/31/2004 6:20:18 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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