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A Message To Conservatives: "Your Silence About Rush Limbaugh Is Deafening."
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| 12/24/03
| Michael Graham
Posted on 12/24/2003 4:20:01 AM PST by suspects
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To: CWOJackson
LOL! Yes, the recreational use of drugs is a high principle to some. The principle I argue is liberty. Some find that amusing. Others are simply confused believing liberty to be restricted to approved actions.
No word on whether you believe the Christians or the Romans were the source of the harm? Were runaway slaves the cause of the harm of the floggings administered to them?
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posted on
12/24/2003 10:33:28 AM PST
by
laredo44
(liberty is not the problem)
To: laredo44
"The principle I argue is liberty. Some find that amusing."
LOL! I love liberty, it's your idea of liberty that I find amusing.
To: RWG
What do you think those 900 FBI files were for?
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posted on
12/24/2003 10:45:26 AM PST
by
garbanzo
(Free people will set the course of history)
To: A2J
Only after his "short-comings" were about to be exposed. Wrong. He went to rehab twice before.
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posted on
12/24/2003 10:46:21 AM PST
by
Hacksaw
(theocratic Confederate flag waving loyalty oath supporter)
To: suspects
Almost every Rush thread I happen across reminds me why I will never vote Libertarian.
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posted on
12/24/2003 10:46:21 AM PST
by
k2blader
(I will shake the nations, and the desired of all nations will come. - Haggai 2:7 -)
To: Leatherneck_MT
When Rush has been convicted of something Illegal in a Court of Law, then I will make my judgement. Last I heard, neither Bill nor Hillary Clinton was ever convicted of anything in a court of law.
To: suspects
As Rush himself said very wisely and correctly when Jim Carville made the same argument defending President O.J., "It doesn't matter what Ken Starr's politics are if you're innocent." Worth repeating.
To: CWOJackson
I love libertyYou hide it well.
Still no answer on the causes of harm? Still maintaining that the offenders of the law always bring it on themselves?
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posted on
12/24/2003 10:51:56 AM PST
by
laredo44
(liberty is not the problem)
To: RWG
One of those liberal rantings about substance abuse being a disease. Addiction is indeed a medical problem, i.e., a disease, and one with out a medical solution.
And, although you/we would jail or execute a mentally ill person under some circumstances, and jail a mentally impaired drug user, there needs to be a better way. Drug avoidance can be made a matter of morality; we can punish some in hopes of deterring others. But, once addiction sets in, the person's ability to choose effectively is compromised.
Consider the most physiologically addictive behavior of all: sex. How many people successfully avoid that in their youth? How many more claim to but in fact do not, and spend a lifetime addicted to non-normal sexual behavior and lifestyles? Plenty. There is the proof of how addiction can distort will and personality.
The brain is altered, possibly 'rewired' by addiction; what better word than 'disease' is there to describe that?
To: laredo44
"You hide it well."
That I find your ideas of liberty amusing? Sorry if I left you with the impression that I didn't consider your ideals and priorities asinine right up front.
"Still no answer on the causes of harm?"
Of course not. As I've already told you before, I have no intention of enabling your circular argument BS. Granted, it's entertaining but it's still a waste of time.
To: suspects
Granted Rush Limbaugh is trully not on the moral high ground in terms of substance abuse any longer. However Rush is right that there are people who are trying to use his addiction to destroy him. Mr. Limbaugh remains a powerful man, with many loyal listeners who agree with his criticisms of Democrats. But the largest and probably most corrupt political party is not going to stand by without using this as an opportunity to destroy Limbaugh.
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posted on
12/24/2003 11:03:53 AM PST
by
B0rat
To: Oztrich Boy; CWOJackson
Thank you for once again pointing out the intellectual shortcomings of so-called conservatives who champion the War on Drugs because drugs are "illegal" and therefor must be bad.
If something is automatically "bad" because it's illegal, I guess these same FReepers champion gun control!
But we already know many do...
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posted on
12/24/2003 11:21:20 AM PST
by
bc2
(http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
To: suspects
And what do you have to say about the violations of our State Constitution ? In your quest to take a cheap shot you might consider wiping the vaseline off of your lens .
Self serving jackass that you are .
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posted on
12/24/2003 11:23:44 AM PST
by
Ben Bolt
( " The Spenders " ..)
To: CWOJackson
I love liberty, it's your idea of liberty that I find amusing. Hold on CW, I think I see the problem. Let's say a guy goes out into his yard and picks a plant growing there, takes it into his house and consumes it. My (amusing) notion sees that as an exercise in liberty. Foolishly, I failed to comprehend that the guy's right to liberty requires the permission of his neighbors.
One thing's for sure. With "lovers" like you, liberty needs no enemies.
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posted on
12/24/2003 11:25:00 AM PST
by
laredo44
(liberty is not the problem)
To: laredo44
You're problem is you are always trying to resort to tortured examples of libertarian logic. Entertaining at the best, but hardly meaningful.
To: Lurking Libertarian
And your point is?
I have not accused Bill Clinton of anything.
However it is a well known fact that he lied under oath and was convicted by the sitting judge of contempt of court.
Other than Bill being an unscrupulous SOB and the worst president in recent memory, that's all I can or will say about him.
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posted on
12/24/2003 11:31:58 AM PST
by
Leatherneck_MT
(Those who do not accept peaceful change make a violent bloody revolution inevitable.)
To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
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posted on
12/24/2003 11:32:03 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
To: brownie
Should Rush be "prosecuted to the same extent anyone else would be" because his actions are "illegal", or should we make only criminal acts illegal?
What Rush did hurt no one except himself and his family (and listeners to his show who expected better) but in no way were his actions "criminal", because force was not initiated against anyone or their property. He bought and paid for the drugs with his own money.
This, in my opinion, is the crux of the issue, and it is greatly overlooked. Sure, drugs are bad, but in and of itself drug use is not "criminal". Only acts such as theft, fraud, murder, rape, etc can be criminal.
Drug use is no more criminal than possesing a handgun in NYC or DC is "criminal". It's illegal, but that in itself should be "criminal"!
alas, only in a perfect world...
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posted on
12/24/2003 11:32:41 AM PST
by
bc2
(http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
To: uncbob
In the eyes of the Law, unfortunately he was.
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posted on
12/24/2003 11:32:45 AM PST
by
Leatherneck_MT
(Those who do not accept peaceful change make a violent bloody revolution inevitable.)
To: steve50
It's already cost us the 2nd, the right to privacy, and the right to property to name a few. That's why the gun-grabbers are such big fans of the WOD.
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posted on
12/24/2003 11:35:54 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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