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The deconstruction of Russia and reconstruction of a “post-Russia space”: a risky but inevitable scenario
New Eastern Europe ^ | September 7, 2022 | Mychailo Wynnyckyj Valerii Pekar

Posted on 09/27/2022 7:24:40 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: Cronos

In 100 years Polish would not exist.


21 posted on 09/27/2022 8:09:27 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Wanna bet?


22 posted on 09/27/2022 8:10:17 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Cronos

More like Peter the Great


23 posted on 09/27/2022 8:11:10 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: dfwgator

There is a possibility to reform though. The guys in the article express strange suicidal ideas. They didn’t work well for Poland past time. Something needs to be done about it. What exactly is up to them so far.


24 posted on 09/27/2022 8:13:03 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Cronos

> Successive US administrations have expressed pronounced fears regarding the prospects of Russian state collapse.

This one is actively encouraging it.


25 posted on 09/27/2022 8:13:07 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: dfwgator

Russia is already so weak militarily and economically that it can’t win a conventional war and must threaten nukes.


26 posted on 09/27/2022 8:29:37 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Cronos
All of this makes me wish that we'd tried to integrate Russia into the West, rather than forever want to see them absolutely crushed.

That might not have worked, but it seems like our government didn't even try very hard, and fell back instead on Cold War thinking which gave us a flattering, though illusionary and self-deceptive, role to play in the world and kept the money flowing in the usual channels.

Memo to America: consider that if any country is going to break up in the near future, it could more likely be ours than anyone else's.

27 posted on 09/27/2022 8:37:34 AM PDT by x
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To: Cronos

A generation ago Srednik studied Alexandr Isaievich Solzhenitzyn’s booklet HOW SHALL WE REBUILD RUSSIA. There is a subtlety in the verb. He wrote the book when PEREstroika (rebuilding) was the rage term under Gorbachev, and in a play on words used OBOstroyim (we rearrange) in the title.

Brilliant. Let the “stans” go. Cooperate with Ukraine. Federate the Russian core. Inspired advice for today.

Please forgive if the years have altered Srednik’s recall of the work.

It is out of print but used copies are available online.


28 posted on 09/27/2022 8:38:17 AM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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To: x

The West saw Russia as a giant Cash Cow after the fall of the Soviet Union.

That was certainly not Reagan’s vision. But Bush and Clinton couldn’t help themselves.


29 posted on 09/27/2022 8:39:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Cronos

On a different level, 1990s saw the expansion of trade and tourism. Americans poured in, spent money and took photos.
I was doing biz thru out the Gulf region and Russians were flying in by the plane load.
Encountered some at various hotels and always cordial.
But that all change in the late 90s and into 2000.


30 posted on 09/27/2022 8:52:39 AM PDT by rrrod (6a)
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To: rrrod
Then Clinton interfered in Russian elections.


31 posted on 09/27/2022 8:53:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Cronos
https://sonar21.com/more-on-the-referendum-game-changer/

Remember three weeks ago when Putin and the Russian military were on the ropes and the Ukrainian army was steamrolling through Kharkov? That was then and Urkaine’s promised victory failed to materialize. With the benefit of hindsight, it appears that Russia abandoned the strategically meaningless territory in the Kharkov Oblast of Ukraine and re-deployed forces to the Donbas, Zaporhyzhia and Kherson. Why? To be in position for the referendum–i.e., to defend the Ukraine oblasts that would be given the chance to vote whether or not to reunite with mother Russia. Putin’s subsequent announcement of the referenda, which began last Friday, was not a Hail Mary pass nor an act of desperation. The planning for this had been in the works for at least a month, maybe longer.

While Ukraine continued to throw its troops against the Russian lines and launched artillery strikes on civilian targets, it paid a terrible price in terms of human casualties and destroyed tanks and combat vehicles, and failed completely to disrupt the vote. There have been international observers monitoring the vote throughout the four oblasts. I wish at least one reporter would ask these observers when they were first contacted and asked to come to the Russian controlled territory and do the monitoring. That detail would provide some insight into the extent of the pre-planning for the referenda.

It appears that the vote to reunite with Russia will be overwhelming in favor of becoming Russian republics. Once the results are certified the Russian Duma will act to accept the decision and Putin will put the cherry on the sundae and make it official. At that point–this Friday–the special military operation in Ukraine will end and Russia will be in position to defend its new territory.

I expect Putin to speak commemorating the event and will put Ukraine, NATO and the United States on notice that any further attacks on Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporhyzhia and Kherson will be an attack on Russia. Ukraine and the west will be on notice. The ball will be in their court.

This will create an opportunity for what is left of Ukraine to seek peace. I doubt that Ukraine and the west will accept this chance. The attacks on the new Russian population will continue and Russia will act. In contrast to the restraint demonstrated during the course of the last six plus months, Russia is likely to respond with more aggressive tactics that may include turning off the power in Ukraine and attacking command centers, including Zelensky’s headquarters in Kiev. This will lead to a significant escalation in the combat, but Ukraine and NATO will have a limited capacity to respond. Why?

The west no longer has the industrial base to match Russia’s production of war material. This weakness is compounded by the double whammy of inflation and economic collapse that is savaging Europe and starting to hurt the United States. The Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), the world’s oldest and the UK’s leading defence and security think tank, recently published an important essay detailing this decline:

The war in Ukraine has proven that the age of industrial warfare is still here. The massive consumption of equipment, vehicles and ammunition requires a large-scale industrial base for resupply – quantity still has a quality of its own. The mass scale combat has pitted 250,000 Ukrainian soldiers, together with 450,000 recently mobilised citizen soldiers against about 200,000 Russian and separatist troops. The effort to arm, feed and supply these armies is a monumental task. Ammunition resupply is particularly onerous. For Ukraine, compounding this task are Russian deep fires capabilities, which target Ukrainian military industry and transportation networks throughout the depth of the country. The Russian army has also suffered from Ukrainian cross-border attacks and acts of sabotage, but at a smaller scale. The rate of ammunition and equipment consumption in Ukraine can only be sustained by a large-scale industrial base.

This reality should be a concrete warning to Western countries, who have scaled down military industrial capacity and sacrificed scale and effectiveness for efficiency. This strategy relies on flawed assumptions about the future of war, and has been influenced by both the bureaucratic culture in Western governments and the legacy of low-intensity conflicts. Currently, the West may not have the industrial capacity to fight a large-scale war. If the US government is planning to once again become the arsenal of democracy, then the existing capabilities of the US military-industrial base and the core assumptions that have driven its development need to be re-examined.

https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/return-industrial-warfare

This is the work of Lt Col (Retd) Alex Vershinin, a US citizen. He spells out in detail the challenge the United States and its NATO allies face if they dare to engage Russia in a tit-for-tat battle:

Presently, the US is decreasing its artillery ammunition stockpiles. In 2020, artillery ammunition purchases decreased by 36% to $425 million. In 2022, the plan is to reduce expenditure on 155mm artillery rounds to $174 million. This is equivalent to 75,357 M795 basic ‘dumb’ rounds for regular artillery, 1,400 XM1113 rounds for the M777, and 1,046 XM1113 rounds for Extended Round Artillery Cannons. Finally, there are $75 million dedicated for Excalibur precision-guided munitions that costs $176K per round, thus totaling 426 rounds. In short, US annual artillery production would at best only last for 10 days to two weeks of combat in Ukraine. If the initial estimate of Russian shells fired is over by 50%, it would only extend the artillery supplied for three weeks.

The US is not the only country facing this challenge. In a recent war game involving US, UK and French forces, UK forces exhausted national stockpiles of critical ammunition after eight days.

https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/return-industrial-warfare

Russia, by contrast, enjoys the luxury of defense plants that are operating 24-7 and producing ammunition, vehicles, tanks, drones, missiles and rockets. The west still labors under the delusion that Russia’s economy is barely tottering along. Russia has the minerals, material and qualified personnel required to produce what the Russian military needs to sustain operations; especially intense combat operations.

I do not know if this was the Russian plan from the outset–i.e., conduct operations that would create a de facto disarmament of the United States and Europe–or if this is pure serendipity. Regardless, the west has no viable options, short of nuclear war, of defeating Russia in Ukraine.

The coming weeks will expose fractures in the NATO alliance. Britain, for example, woke up this morning to learn that the once mighty pound Sterling, which once had twice the value of the US dollar, is now worth less than the dollar. That means that the Brits will be paying more for products they import from the United States. Although the United States only accounts for 12% of the UK imports, the price increase will further inflame the inflationary spiral in the UK. Newly minted British Prime Minister Liz Truss already is facing push back from the Tories about her proposed economic plan. The death of Queen Elizabeth put the political problems on a back burner for a couple of weeks. That honeymoon is over and the pressure of domestic politics in the UK will make continued support for Ukraine less certain.

The collapsing economies in France, Germany and Italy also will compel those countries to spend more time trying to quiet growing domestic unrest. When you factor in the energy crisis and Ukrainian military setbacks as winter sets in, the foundation of NATO unity vis-a-vis Ukraine, is likely to crack.

32 posted on 09/27/2022 9:00:07 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Cronos

I see the Eastern European Propaganda Squad has clocked in for their daily shift.

And the news feed is now polluted with their trash. 🙄


33 posted on 09/27/2022 9:02:45 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: dfwgator

Yep.


34 posted on 09/27/2022 9:12:17 AM PDT by rrrod (6a)
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To: Pollard
Wilson lives with his husband in Washington, D.C. and part-time in Charleston, SC.

The Globohomo attack on Russia seemed to commence when in 2012 when Putin began outlawing Homosexual adoption of Russian Children. Until that time Hillary and the Democrats saw Putin as an important partner in selling off US Assets to Russia! It was after this that Ukraine was overthrown in a western backed coup and the subsequent Rand Corporation Report.
35 posted on 09/27/2022 9:18:34 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: dfwgator

I saw a big change in the Gulf on my last trip. Russian mob had taken hold and no more just businessmen. Lots of problems with local police and forced deportations. Oman was refusing admittance at the airport.


36 posted on 09/27/2022 9:18:44 AM PDT by rrrod (6a)
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To: Cronos

“This has fueled the disproportionate recruitment of ethnic minorities from Chechnya and other regions on the Federation’s fringes – “

Shades of Rome in the final stages. Remember, the barbarians didn’t march all the way to Italy on their own, they were allowed to settle in Italy by the Emperor as an attempt to buy their loyalty, because Rome needed to recruit some of the barbarians to help them fight off other tribes that threatened them.


37 posted on 09/27/2022 9:26:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kazan

Why should anyone believe you when you have said:

14th Dec 2021 https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4021188/posts?page=18#18
There is zero reason to believe Russia is going to invade any nation and take it over against its wil

13th Jan 2022 https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4029166/posts?page=8#8
Nonsense. There is no evidence Putin has any plans to invade and takeover countries against their will.

21st Jan 2022 https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4031420/posts?page=48#48
The claim Russia is going to invade Ukraine has been nothing but propaganda from the start.

21st Jan 2022 https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4031420/posts?page=49#49
Russia is not going to wage a brutal war with Ukraine. It’s been a lie from the start

24th Jan 2022 https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4032190/posts?page=28#28
Putin is assuring us he has no further territorial ambitions in Europe beyond this one little slice of Ukraine heavily populated by Russians
I have no doubt that’s true. There is no way Putin wants to fight a bloody war with Ukraine. He’d perfectly happy with water flow being restored to Crimea and sanctions to be removed from the Nord 2 pipeline.

28th Jan 2022 https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4033434/posts?page=22#22
The Russian invasion narrative is as fake as the Russian collusion narrative was

4th Feb 2022 https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4035208/posts?page=58#58
The Russian invasion narrative is as fake as the Russian collusion narrative was

19th Feb 2022 https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4039582/posts?page=112#112
You think Russia wants to invade nations in Eastern Europe and take them over against their will?

19th Feb 2022 https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4039720/posts?page=29#29
So, given that, why would anyone in their right mind believe that Putin wants to start wars in Eastern Europe and take countries over against their will as millions of young Russians died in war?

22nd Feb https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4040557/posts?page=31#31
I’d rather see Russia annex Ukraine (which is has no desire to do)


38 posted on 09/27/2022 11:14:27 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Jan_Sobieski

2012 Putin outlawed the adoption of Russian children by AMERICANS

The measure was widely seen as a retaliation for the Sergei Magnitsky Act passed by Congress which imposed sanctions on Russian officials involved in the death of an imprisoned lawyer in 2009 after he blew the whistle on a multimillion-dollar tax refund scam allegedly orchestrated by tax inspectors and police officers.

Originally Russia’s lawmakers cobbled together a more or less a tit-for-tat response to the U.S. law, providing for travel sanctions and the seizure of financial assets in Russia of Americans determined to have violated the rights of Russians.

But it was expanded to include the adoption measure

So nope, it wasn’t due to homosexual couples — Putin had invaded Georgia 4 years earlier.


39 posted on 09/27/2022 11:19:11 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Pollard

Russia has been threatening its neighbors since 1750.

Why did Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania rush to join any and every organization that would prevent them being swallowed up by Moscow?


40 posted on 09/27/2022 11:20:37 AM PDT by Cronos
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