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  • World War II airman's remains coming home to Iowa (SSgt Marvin Steinford)

    01/29/2015 2:17:54 PM PST · 5 of 5
    Verbosus to robowombat

    I always find these stories so touching - as they finally come home.

  • World War II airman's remains coming home to Iowa (SSgt Marvin Steinford)

    01/29/2015 2:09:55 PM PST · 4 of 5
    Kartographer to robowombat

    Welcome home Sargent Steinford.

    And I thank you for your service.

  • World War II airman's remains coming home to Iowa (SSgt Marvin Steinford)

    01/29/2015 2:08:07 PM PST · 3 of 5
    skeeter to robowombat

    With allies like the soviets...

  • World War II airman's remains coming home to Iowa (SSgt Marvin Steinford)

    01/29/2015 1:58:41 PM PST · 2 of 5
    robowombat to robowombat

    Iowa gave SSGT Steinford a fine farewell:

    66 years later, Eastern Iowa airman laid to rest in Cedar Rapids

    Vanessa MIller
    APRIL 2, 2014 | 7:38 PM
    Her father went missing during his service in World War II, and that’s basically all Carol Ann Sansenbach knew about Marvin J. Steinford.

    So when government officials contacted her mother in 2005 to report finding what they believed to be his remains in a Soviet war memorial and grave site in Hungary, Sansenbach was stunned.

    “I was in disbelief,” she said after her father’s life and military service were honored Tuesday with a memorial service at Christ Episcopal Church in Cedar Rapids followed by a 21-gun salute and rendition of “Taps” at the Cedar Memorial Cemetery.

    A Boeing B-52 also roared over Steinford’s final resting place in honor of the man who friends remembered as an American hero on Tuesday. His family members, some united for the first time, raised their chins and covered their eyes in a pseudo salute to watch the massive aircraft pass over.

    “It has been fun finally getting to meet some of his relatives,” Sansenbach said. “I didn’t know them before.”

    The discovery of his remains has led Sansenbach to a wealth of information about Steinford, who was known by friends as “Steiney.” Born Aug. 29, 1922, Steinford grew up in Keystone before enlisting in the U.S. Army Corps, now known as the U.S. Air Force, in 1942.

    He was deployed oversees in December 1944 and was on a bombing mission from Amendola, Italy to Berlin Germany on March 24, 1945, when he disappeared between Soviet and German lines in Hungary. The then 22-year-old serviceman had bailed out of a B-17 aircraft that had been damaged by German anti-aircraft fire.

    He was considered missing in action for decades, until Hungarian authorities notified the United States Defense Attache in Budapest in November 2004 that the remains of what they believed was a U.S. serviceman had been found in the city of Zirc.

    Crews were excavating a Soviet memorial and grave site so they could relocate it to the outskirts of town, when they unearthed a wooden coffin that looked different from the other Soviet coffins.

    It took years for the government agencies to coordinate an exhumination of the site, and investigators confirmed the remains belonged to Steinford in July 2009. Steinford’s family members had learned in 2005 that his remains might have been found, and Sansenbach said Tuesday that it’s nice to finally give him a proper burial.

    While waiting for his remains, Sansenbach said, she read investigative reports about his disappearance and learned a lot about the moments preceding his death. The question that remains, however, is who buried him and how he ended up in the dissimilar coffin.

    “How did he end up in that box?” she said.

    Sansenbach, who on Tuesday wore her mother’s locket containing a photo of her father, also has learned more about Steinford’s personal life as information has continued to emerge about his time in the military. One friend told her that he was artistic, for example.

    “I always liked to draw,” she said. “I wondered where that came from.”

    During the memorial service, which was attended by more than 100 people, Ed McGivern, who grew up with Steinford in Keystone, said he feels the discovery of his friend’s remains years later is “almost a miracle.”

    “For those of us who believe in a higher being, it’s hard not to believe this his repatriation wasn’t meant to be,” McGivern said.

    Sansenbach, who never got to meet her father, said Tuesday provided a lot of closure. Rev. Martha Rogers, who officiated the service, said it also provided encouragement to families still looking for their loved ones.

    “This is a day of great hope,” she said.

  • World War II airman's remains coming home to Iowa (SSgt Marvin Steinford)

    01/29/2015 1:55:12 PM PST · 1 of 5
    robowombat
    "The entire crew bailed out. But I believe S/Sgt. Marvin Steinford, who was on his first mission with this crew, was killed by rifle fire while descending. We came down over German/Russian lines and soldiers of both sides shot at us as we came down in our chutes. I was not an eyewitness to his death.

    Could one have worse luck?

  • Major General Laurence B. Keiser 1917

    01/25/2015 11:13:12 PM PST · 9 of 9
    Kenny Bunk to elteemike
    IMNVHO, the American military decline began with Truman when his advisors, especially those left over in the State Department from the Roosevelt régime, urged him to limit MacArthur. MacArthur's overall idea of rolling back the communists out of the Korean Peninsula was a good one, but he must always take the blame for seriously underestimating the Chinese and directly causing the greatest defeat in our military history. The Communists were quick to observe that we would no longer finish a war if they inflicted heavy casualties on us.

    After the catastrophic retreat, MacArthur lost much support and was replaced. We were forced to completely withdraw from North Korea, which again was a military error because we had a secure defensive base of operations within the Wonsan Perimeter, dominated from the air and by naval support.

    We caused the Chinese well over a million casualties before the armistice, but Korea can hardly be called a victory.

  • Serve, Protect, Defend: Former Army MP, CID Agent Awarded For Heroics

    01/25/2015 7:24:47 PM PST · 4 of 4
    Old Student to CondorFlight

    “Only had to wait 65 years after the event to finally process his award ... way to go, Army... (sarc/off)”

    From the article:

    “Two years and one month after his heroism, Keiser was nominated for the highest military honor, the Medal of Honor,” McCarthy said. “And despite earning approval at each point of review throughout the chain of command, he was ultimately denied the award because the time limitation of two years from the date of the valorous act had expired.”

    Following a 13 year campaign, championed by Lou Gregg, a former CID special agent who also served in the Korean War, Keiser’s award nomination would be picked up by McCarthy’s office in 2013.

    “Bob Keiser was a great agent and a true hero in every sense of the work,” Gregg said. “It’s just too bad that he will never know if he was ever recognized for his bravery on that frightful day.”

    McCarthy would go on to insert language in the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act that would waive time limits precluding members of the military from receiving military awards.

    “Until this point, political gridlock and governmental bureaucracy left Mr. Gregg’s efforts to honor his friend unfulfilled,” McCarthy said. “Mr. Keiser’s legacy is one that American dreams are made of.”

    I think the last paragraph I quoted explains it pretty well, and I don’t think it’s the Army you should be blaming. Politicians. Again.

    Old Student
    WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

  • Major General Laurence B. Keiser 1917

    01/25/2015 6:57:40 PM PST · 8 of 9
    robowombat to MSF BU
    Actually pretend extended high intensity combat ops will never again happen. Deep thinkers in DOD are wedded to this mantra and will not entertain the possibility of a longish high intensity war ever happening.
  • Major General Laurence B. Keiser 1917

    01/25/2015 5:41:38 PM PST · 7 of 9
    MSF BU to robowombat

    ...and just imagine what would have happened to the 2d Infantry Division and they been comprised of 18% females with service battalions well over 40%. The institutional knowledge of that kind of war has disappeared and the focus now is to put the gals through Ranger School and pretend everything is the same.

  • Major General Laurence B. Keiser 1917

    01/25/2015 4:15:45 PM PST · 6 of 9
    elteemike to Kenny Bunk

    And is it just coincidence that reversal of US fortunes in war fighting coincides with our involvement in the UN?

  • Serve, Protect, Defend: Former Army MP, CID Agent Awarded For Heroics

    01/25/2015 2:05:08 PM PST · 3 of 4
    CondorFlight to 2ndDivisionVet

    “Sgt. 1st Class Robert “Cowboy Bob” Keiser, who passed away in December 2009...”

    Only had to wait 65 years after the event to finally process his award ... way to go, Army... (sarc/off)

  • Major General Laurence B. Keiser 1917

    01/25/2015 1:34:19 PM PST · 5 of 9
    Kenny Bunk to robowombat
    The Army as a whole does not like to remember what went on in Korea in the last weeks of 1950 and the first part of 1951.

    MacArthur's intelligence officer, General Willoughby, chose to tell MacArthur exactly what he wanted to hear: that the Chinese threat to us in Korea was minimal. Keiser bore the brunt of that mistake, as his troops were the first to be attacked en masse by overwhelming CHICOM forces, and were routed with very heavy casualties.

    MacArthur, despite many warnings, used Willoughby's flawed intelligence to devise an extremely foolhardy strategy, which divided his army into two units that were unable to support each other as they were separated by many miles of high mountains, placing overall command in the hands of General Salmon, who screwed up even further. The JCS had immediately seen the military error of MacArthur's plans, but were mesmerized and awed by MacArthur and did not object. It was a disaster, and only the US Marines prevented it from becoming a massacre. The mistake ended MacArthur's career and soured his legacy.

    MacArthur wanted nuclear intervention in China, The Truman Administration and the UN did not. Our troops and the UN contingent were battered for months until General Ridgeway assumed command ... but in the end, all that was achieved was a bitter stalemate and equally bitter recrimination that continues to this day about MacArthur. IMNVHO, MacArthur should be honored for his accomplishments, but not forgiven for his last military blunders in Korea.

  • Major General Laurence B. Keiser 1917

    01/25/2015 1:34:05 PM PST · 4 of 9
    robowombat to PAR35
    Appleman in his ‘Disaster in Korea’ pretty well spells this out.
  • Major General Laurence B. Keiser 1917

    01/25/2015 1:32:10 PM PST · 3 of 9
    PAR35 to robowombat
    MG Keiser is a controversial figure in some quarters as his command of the 2nd Division in Korea ended with its virtual destruction by the Chinese

    MacArthur deserves full credit for that fiasco. It was the third time he'd been caught flat footed by the enemy. MacArthur was really adept at leaving others holding the bag.

  • Major General Laurence B. Keiser 1917

    01/25/2015 1:08:09 PM PST · 2 of 9
    robowombat to robowombat
    MG Keiser is a controversial figure in some quarters as his command of the 2nd Division in Korea ended with its virtual destruction by the Chinese in late November 1950. The Army as a whole does not like to remember what went on in Korea in the last weeks of 1950 and the first part of 1951. I wasn't there so I don't have the right to comment but as a lifelong student of military history it appears to me a crisis graver than that which faced the US Army in Europe in Dec 1944 occurred during those dark cold days amid the frozen snow covered hills of NW Korea.
  • Major General Laurence B. Keiser 1917

    01/25/2015 1:04:14 PM PST · 1 of 9
    robowombat
    An interesting comment from an EM who knew MG Keiser very late in his life:

    David Dunakey • 3 months ago I met General Keiser in in 1968, I was stationed at the Presidio in San Francisco after returning from Viet Nam. He was long retired by then and he and his wife lived in an apartment outside the back gate of the base. His eyesight had failed and I was asked to drive for him. After the first day he asked for me again and I drove for him and Mrs Keiser everyday until I got out of the service in August 1968. Sergeant Cook was a frequent visitor at the house. I had the privilege of spending every day with them for a year and the above memorial does remarkable justice to the Generals character. I have had the opportunity to meet important men, powerful men, and charismatic men - men who could engender respect and loyalty without commanding it; but I have never met anyone who had these qualities to the extent of General Keiser. I returned home in August 1968 but was able to talk with the General and Mrs Keiser regularly up until his death. He had a great influence on me and for that I owe him a great deal.

  • Serve, Protect, Defend: Former Army MP, CID Agent Awarded For Heroics

    01/25/2015 12:59:30 PM PST · 2 of 4
    2ndDivisionVet to robowombat

  • Serve, Protect, Defend: Former Army MP, CID Agent Awarded For Heroics

    01/25/2015 12:47:46 PM PST · 1 of 4
    robowombat
  • Fury: The Mother of all Tank Movies

    01/16/2015 5:26:29 PM PST · 74 of 74
    mowowie to w1n1

    i’ve heard good things about this movie but i am not that huge of a Pitt fan and Shia LaBeouf?
    Don’t even get me started....

    still want to see this movie though.

  • Sgt. Maj. Of The Marine Corps Says Lower Pay For Marines “Will Raise Discipline”, Make Them Less....

    01/13/2015 8:17:09 AM PST · 109 of 109
    Enlightened1 to YoungAmericanConservative1989

    Two things every Marine knows that you never do.

    1) You don’t f*ck with a Marine’s pay
    2) You don’t f*ck with a Marine’s Leave Time.

    I know this Sgt Major knows this....

    What he said was very dumb.

  • Always Out Front: a Photo History of an Airborne Company

    01/12/2015 7:14:34 AM PST · 5 of 5
    TigerTale to TigerTale

    Jason Auld’s Kickstarter project “Always Out Front: a Photo History of an Airborne Company” is halfway to its goal. Please take a look at the Kickstarter and consider supporting Jason’s effort. Whether or not you can support this project financially, please share the link with your online and offline friends, so others have the opportunity to learn about the unique visual history Jason is trying to preserve. Thank you!

  • Always Out Front: a Photo History of an Airborne Company

    01/05/2015 11:25:37 AM PST · 4 of 5
    2CAVTrooper to 2banana

    The RG wasn’t what they were cracked up to be.

  • Always Out Front: a Photo History of an Airborne Company

    01/05/2015 8:45:34 AM PST · 3 of 5
    2banana to TigerTale

    They were called a “speed bump” if the Republican Guards came over the border...

  • Always Out Front: a Photo History of an Airborne Company

    01/05/2015 7:32:10 AM PST · 1 of 5
    TigerTale
    Veterans, Gulf War enthusiasts and photography buffs: Please take a look at Jason Auld's project to document his experiences in Desert Storm. Jason is a talented photographer. What he captures here is worthy of preservation. If this project catches your attention and your interest, please contribute to the Kickstarter.
  • The Freeper Foxhole Enjoys an Almost Lazy Sunday- A B-24 Liberator Walk Around

    12/24/2014 7:49:51 PM PST · 54 of 54
    SoCal Pubbie to alfa6

    I know this thread is very old but if someone is very familiar with the structure of the B-24 airframe can they please send a message to me? I am building a cross sectional display model of this plane and could use some help understanding certain parts of the inside details.

  • The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Port Chicago Disaster (7/17/1944) - Aug. 17th, 2003

    12/14/2014 11:25:20 PM PST · 41 of 41
    abigkahuna to SAMWolf

    It was my grandfather and his partner’s marine contracting firm based out of Richmond that undertook the task of clean-up. They lost a tugboat due to unexploded bombs. (Which subsequently did explode). As to my understanding, they took all the unexploded bombs, scooped out a hole not to far away and dumped all the debris and crap in it, put a pile of dirt on top and called it Bomb Island or something of the sort. It was a good contract. In the SF Bay there were only two Marine contractors, Crowley (which I think still exists today) and Lebeouf & Dougherty. His was a much smaller firm and probably got the contract because Crowley got everything else. Didn’t want the appearance of a monopoly for Crowley.

    I do have some pictures somewhere that his company took at the time. I should go look them up.

  • Fury: The Mother of all Tank Movies

    12/03/2014 8:22:20 PM PST · 73 of 74
    GrandJediMasterYoda to wbill

    This article says it was taken from true stories....I know what you mean though, it seemed a little too over the top with the characters, like they were cartoons.

    http://www.bustle.com/articles/44570-is-fury-based-on-a-true-story-its-definitely-not-just-another-world-war-ii-movie

  • REAL BROTHERS IN ARMS

    11/26/2014 4:54:47 PM PST · 4 of 4
    lysie to DJ Taylor

    For later. Thank you.

  • REAL BROTHERS IN ARMS

    11/26/2014 3:51:09 PM PST · 3 of 4
    ImNotLying to DJ Taylor

    Great story, truly remarkable. Loved listening to my dad tell stories about his service during WWII. And my dad’s brother was killed in Germany. I am so proud of both of them.

  • REAL BROTHERS IN ARMS

    11/26/2014 3:39:52 PM PST · 2 of 4
    DJ Taylor to DJ Taylor
  • REAL BROTHERS IN ARMS

    11/26/2014 3:34:30 PM PST · 1 of 4
    DJ Taylor
  • Fury: The Mother of all Tank Movies

    11/23/2014 3:38:25 PM PST · 72 of 74
    TweetEBird007 to cld51860
    That no lost bomber, has totally rejected by several different sources and records.
    I have a friend that was tank driver in Nam, he and TC were
    only survivors. He was messed up bad and still is somewhat.
    I took him an article that said 27 % of armor MOS sent to Nam
    were killed, by far highest death rate of any MOS.
  • My Grandfather

    11/20/2014 6:59:52 AM PST · 16 of 16
    Tennessee Nana to uscga77

    The Great War, the War to end all Wars...

    My mother lost 3 uncles at Gallipoli in 1915..

  • [Vanity] Great Speech, General

    11/12/2014 6:19:10 AM PST · 12 of 12
    billhilly to cherry

    Maybe you, or someone on this thread can help me. I’m looking for information about C-130 flight engineers during the Vietnam war. I just attended the funeral of one of them who had been married to a cousin. He was highly decorated, as I suspect all C-130 crews were.

  • My Grandfather

    11/12/2014 3:14:15 AM PST · 15 of 16
    eCSMaster to eCSMaster
    I guess I can also give this information from the National Personnel Records Center:

    They gave me a link

    http://www.nara.gov/regional/stlouis.html

    and a phone number (314) 810-0800

    To quote:

    "If you are a veteran or a deceased veteran's next of kin, please consider submitting your future requests online by visiting us at

    http://vetrecs.archives.gov

    I used these links back in 2009 - don't know if they still work.

  • My Grandfather

    11/12/2014 3:03:02 AM PST · 14 of 16
    eCSMaster to eCSMaster
    Sorry, should have said "spent parts of two years in various hospitals in France and the U.S."

    Records are available from

    National Personnel Records Center
    Military Personnel Records
    9700 Page Avenue
    St. Louis, MO 63132

    There was a fire in 1973 which destroyed lots of records there, but much information remains.

  • My Grandfather

    11/12/2014 2:21:03 AM PST · 13 of 16
    eCSMaster to uscga77
    For me, it was my father, Corporal John J. U*******, Company K 320th Infantry.

    He was wounded in his leg by German Machine gun fire Sept 28, 1918, spend two years in various Army hospitals in France.

    Finally discharged December 24, 1919. Walked with a limp the rest of his life. Received a total of $64 upon discharge. I have his Purple Heart medal.

    I am always so proud of my Dad.

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 9:04:19 PM PST · 12 of 16
    sargon to uscga77
    Today was originally, Armistice Day, the end of World War I. Here's to my Grandfather, Edward Smith who served in a machine gun company in the Meuse-Argonne Forest and St Miheil battles. He saw more than any person should ever see and said very little about it to his wife or his son, my dad. It's said he suffered the ill effects of mustard gas. He did enjoy his time after the war in the Army of Occupation. Here's to grandpa, one of those Yanks who helped turn the tide of that awful war and bring it to an end.

    My great grandfather also served in a machine gun battalion at Meuse Argonne and Saint Mihiel! He was in the 5th Division (Red Diamond)

    Wouldn't it be something if our ancestors knew each other?

    I'm going to have to dig up the specifics.

    I still have his service medals, uniform, mustard gas mask, and several pieces of paperwork, etc.

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 8:50:41 PM PST · 11 of 16
    Wyrd bið ful aræd to uscga77
    My great-grandfather served at Belleau Wood and received (I believe) the silver star -- I'll have to look it up again to verify which medal it was. From what I've heard he refused to ever divulge a single detail of his wartime experience. His eventual brother-in-law served in the Canadian army and was gassed. He died not long after the war of resulting complications.
  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 8:09:29 PM PST · 10 of 16
    PGR88 to uscga77

    My Dad’s father, and his brother were in France. Uncle Will (I never knew him) was gassed.

    So when WWII came, my grandmother made my father join the Navy, rather than get drafted into the Army.

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 8:07:28 PM PST · 9 of 16
    Huskrrrr to uscga77

    God bless you and your family. Thanks for sharing your memories with us.

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 7:48:03 PM PST · 8 of 16
    razorback-bert to uscga77

    My grandfather entered the war late and was due to go “over the top” for the first time 12 November.

    My father accepted his commission on 6 Dec. 1941, which gave him rank over a bunch of people.

    In military college, one of my professors was a one eyed and peg leg vet of the Spanish-America and WWI. He also was gassed.

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 7:36:59 PM PST · 7 of 16
    NonValueAdded to uscga77

    hear, hear!

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 7:35:11 PM PST · 6 of 16
    Sasparilla to Argus

    And, here’s to my Cousin, born in 1899, who died at Meuse Argonne.

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 7:35:07 PM PST · 5 of 16
    yarddog to uscga77

    I had one Great Uncle who also was gassed. I am not sure which battle but he got a fairly substantial disability pension. This area was poor at the time and he was considered quite a catch by the girls because he had a pension.

    I had another Great Uncle who was given a full scholarship to the Sorbonne after the war. I was talking to some of my Cousins in Georgia and a couple of them thought he was a Georgia grad. Another Cousin told them, no he went to that French school.

    They were clearly disappointed that he was not a bulldog. I thought it was funny. That Uncle became very wealthy and was at one time supervisor of Bank operations for all of Latin America for Chase Manhattan. He operated out of Cuba.

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 7:33:57 PM PST · 4 of 16
    madmominct to uscga77

    God bless your grandfather and all of our vets - all heroes to me!

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 7:25:39 PM PST · 3 of 16
    Argus to uscga77

    My English teacher in high school was a Tommy, gassed at Ypres, I believe it was, also walked with a limp from wounds. He’s long gone but here’s to Mr. Scott.

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 7:15:09 PM PST · 2 of 16
    PROCON to uscga77
    Here, here, a toast to your Grandfather!

    God Bless our Vets, one and all!

  • My Grandfather

    11/11/2014 7:13:01 PM PST · 1 of 16
    uscga77
  • Free meal o'charleys leads to reunion

    11/11/2014 5:45:29 PM PST · 11 of 11
    RaceBannon to opbuzz

    Gosh, I was 165 twice, 1980 and 81, too