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If the death penalty is inflicted because of DNA evidence and other forensic breakthroughs, I don’t have a problem with the verdict. “Some people just need killin’ “.

What absolutely ticks me off is when some murderer is nailed with the above evidence, he can still cop a guilty plea and get life with no parole or worse yet, just life (i.e. 7 years and if you find Jesus your’re out). Again,”Some people . . .”

To those who say that they don’t want to play God by voting for the death penalty, I say that you still are, by condemning another innocent to death at the hands of this murder when he gets out. “Life with no parole” can be commuted, as was done by a vengeful Illinois governor not too long ago.

My further argument is that the death sentence does not mean the perp will be frog-marched outside and immediately shot. He will spend the next 20 years on death row filing appeals and perhaps getting a new trial 10 years later when eyewitnesses have died off or have dimmed memories.

Think of a murderer as a cancerous cell running loose in the body of Society and act as a white cell should you be on the jury.

Nifong didn’t have a capital crime, and there’s no indication he’d tried that trick earlier in his career. He had some gay blade snitches to service in the state prison system ~ that’s all.

He would given the opportunity. Under the right set of circumstances, those Duke lacrosse players could have all been executed.

This one sided crap is amazing. The BTK killer is from Kansas.

I absolutely agree, La Lydia. I thought of them immediately when I saw your thread.

They escaped death row on legal grounds once already, but were returned within a year.

Now it looks like they may have another chance.

The Wichita Massacre, also known as The Wichita Horror,[1] was a murder/assault/rape/robbery spree perpetrated by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr against several people in the city of Wichita, Kansas in the winter of 2000. The crimes shocked Wichitans, and purchases of guns, locks, and home security systems subsequently skyrocketed in the city.[2]

The brothers were tried, convicted and sentenced to death in October 2002.[3] Although it appeared that a 2004 decision by the Kansas Supreme Court overturning the state death penalty law was going to spare the Carrs, the decision was appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, which upheld the death penalty law and returned the Carrs and other condemned killers back to death row.

The Carr brothers, 22-year-old Reginald and 20-year-old Jonathan, already had serious criminal records when they began their spree.[4] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robbery against 23-year-old assistant baseball coach, Andrew Schreiber. Three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian, Ann Walenta, as she tried to escape from them in her car.

Their crime spree culminated on December 14, when they invaded a home and subjected five young men and women to robbery, sexual abuse, and murder. The brothers broke into a house chosen nearly at random where Brad Heyka, Heather Muller, Aaron Sander, Jason Befort and a young woman identified as 'H.G.', all in their twenties, were spending the night. Initially scouring the house for valuables, they forced their hostages to strip naked, bound and detained them, and subjected them to various forms of sexual humiliation, including rape and oral sex.[4]

They also forced the men to engage in sexual acts with the women, and the women with each other. They then drove the victims to ATMs to empty their bank accounts, before finally bringing them to a snowy deserted soccer complex on the outskirts of town and shooting them execution-style in the backs of their heads, leaving them for dead. The Carr brothers then drove Befort's truck over the bodies.

They returned to the house to ransack it for more valuables. It was then they claimed their final victim, Nikki, H.G.'s muzzled dog who was beaten and stabbed to death.

H.G. survived (her plastic hairpin having deflected the bullet), after running naked for more than a mile in freezing weather to report the attack and seek medical attention. In a much-remarked point of tragedy, she had seen her boyfriend Befort shot, after having learned of his intention to propose marriage when the Carrs, by chance, discovered the engagement ring hidden in a can of popcorn.

The Carr brothers, who took few precautions, were captured by the police the next day, and Reginald was identified by Schreiber and the dying Walenta. Law enforcement officials ultimately decided that the Carrs' motive was robbery, despite the other aspects of the crime.

When criminals feel they can get away with murder and live, nothing will stop them.

This is the kind of liberal philosophy that is clearly insane.

The rights of crime victims over criminals are being thoroughly trashed. It is time for some real outrage in middle America.

Why is there prison overcrowding?

Why is there such an outcry about the rights of criminals because of prison overcrowding?

Wanna do something about prison overcrowding?

Start executing those criminals on DEATH ROW NOW!

When criminals feel they can get away with murder and live, nothing will stop them.

This is the kind of liberal philosophy that is clearly insane.

The rights of crime bictims over criminals are being thoroughly trashed. It is time for some real outrage in middle America.

Why is there prison overcrowding?

Why is there such an outcry about the rights of criminals because of prison overcrowding?

Wanna do something about prison overcrowding?

Start executing those criminals on DEATH ROW NOW!

Folks knew what he was up to from the very beginning. I recall that FR had numerous multithousand post threads on the matter.

Not like there was anything being kept secret down there ~ we even had the test results from the perp's vaginal swabs before she did, and I don't know if the Prosecutor ever did get them (or if he cared).

Not that time, but he certainly took note of how other NC DAs had operated when they were trying to hang someone. Nifong thought he could get away with what he did because other DAs escaped sanctions.