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  • Savvy observers think the GOP race is down to Bush and Rubio. Here's why I don't agree.

    10/05/2015 3:12:52 PM PDT · 22 of 45
    x to 2ndDivisionVet
    John Kerry came out of nowhere to win Iowa in 2004

    I guess that settles it, then.

  • Savvy observers think the GOP race is down to Bush and Rubio. Here's why I don't agree.

    10/05/2015 3:12:07 PM PDT · 21 of 45
    x to 2ndDivisionVet
    Would have been brilliantly insightful if he published it just a few months back.

    I don't think anybody's had much positive to say about Jeb or Marco lately.

    I guess they would make an interesting Batman and Robin, though.

  • Trump: Rubio and Jeb Playing Nice Is 'Political BS'

    10/05/2015 2:57:49 PM PDT · 13 of 41
    x to JediJones
    Political relationships can be complicated.

    They don't all boil down to love or hate.

    Donald's plain-spoken and direct, but he has to show a little more insight or discernment if he wants to play in the big time.

    Also, Reagan didn't spend his time discussing how George Bush and Howard Baker or Bob Dole got along.

    Comedic observations about your rivals may be entertaining, but they're a distraction.

  • Steve Jobs, The Martian -- and Me

    10/05/2015 2:42:33 PM PDT · 6 of 12
    x to Kaslin
    And apparently this movie, depending on who you listen to, just savages Steve Jobs, just makes him out to be the biggest reprobate that may have ever lived, just a horrible human being, inhumane, mean, heartless, no compassion, just the most rotten, vile guy you can imagine.

    They showed Mark Zuckerberg to be quite awful in The Social Network, yet somehow the film wasn't anti-Zuckerberg in the end.

    In the movie, Zuckerberg was sort of a rascal king or sacred monster -- somebody who wasn't admirable, but was in his own way remarkable -- and maybe they'll show Jobs in that light.

    I would be worried about what one reviewer called "the screenwriter's signature verbal-diarrhetic dialogue," though.

  • Why Conservatives Elected to Congress Turn Into Moderates

    10/05/2015 2:24:42 PM PDT · 44 of 55
    x to zeestephen
    Washington DC can be addictive.

    Once they get there politicians don't want to leave.

    And a million dollars doesn't go that far in DC.

  • CNN Alters Photo of Umpqua Killer Chris Harper-Mercer to Make Him Look White

    10/04/2015 12:39:35 PM PDT · 101 of 112
    x to ncalburt
  • What people in 1900 thought the year 2000 would look like

    10/04/2015 12:06:14 PM PDT · 34 of 53
    x to Dilbert San Diego
    Most of the people who made predictions focused on technology and gadgetry. It was much harder to "think outside the box" about society and make bold predictions.

    I do see Robert Heinlein in 1952 predicting for the year 2000 that "contraception and control of disease is revising relations between the sexes to an extent that will change our entire social and economic structure." Pretty easy to predict that, I guess. Cancer, the common cold, and tooth decay would also all be cured by now. Source

    You may find things that were predicted on "slippery slope grounds" -- if this happens then sooner or later two guys will be able to get married -- but dismissed at the time as alarmist.

  • What people in 1900 thought the year 2000 would look like

    10/04/2015 11:53:02 AM PDT · 32 of 53
    x to EveningStar
  • The Return of the Middle American Radical: An intellectual history of Trump supporters.

    10/03/2015 1:42:15 PM PDT · 29 of 31
    x to SE Mom
    Trump isn’t conservative, nor is he liberal. He not much constrained by ideology or political philosophy. .I guess if he thought about he might just say he’s American.

    That is probably a foreign concept to many young people. But those of us of a certain age know exactly what it means, or, I should say, what it meant...

    Okay, but that makes Trump look strange to journalists who are all about pigeon-holing politicians and people on the basis of ideology.

    I can see where all Judis's sociological pigeon-holing by class levels can get under people's skin.

    That's sort of what you'd expect from the media. I thought the idea of Trump as not really left or right was the more interesting part of the article.

    Perot might be a good parallel. He drew support from widely different parts of the population. Still, he was stronger among some groups than others, and if a writer wanted to marginalize him, that's what he'd focus on.

  • Stephen Colbert Proves the Slippery Slope is Real

    10/03/2015 12:55:43 PM PDT · 19 of 27
    x to Dilbert San Diego
    Off topic, but, why are all comedians liberal?

    Find out why so many comedians are from urban or from large metropolitan areas and you'll have your answer.

    I guess it's because that's where the people are and if you live there, you're bound to have big city attitudes which nowadays are pretty liberal. If you could make a living as a comedian in rural areas, comedians would have a different point of view.

    Also, a lot of comedians are unhappy people who spend their time getting booed in smoky, noisy clubs by unpleasant people. After their sets, they sit around and complain about their lives. Usually, there's somebody there who's more cynical and "knowing" than the others and they gravitate to his (or her) point of view, which is usually on the left.

    I do notice, though, that there are apolitical or conservative comedians. You may catch them on Red Eye. They tend to keep a low profile.

    And "conservative" is a relative term. Jim Gaffigan is pretty "conservative" in some ways (religious family, five young kids), but I doubt he's a Ted Cruz fan.

  • The Return of the Middle American Radical: An intellectual history of Trump supporters.

    10/03/2015 12:42:53 PM PDT · 21 of 31
    x to johniegrad
    But is Free Republic really a representative sample of all Trump supporters?

    Trump is polling well in different sections of the GOP and among independents and Democrats as well, and some of his supporters in those circles may have different views.

  • The Return of the Middle American Radical: An intellectual history of Trump supporters.

    10/03/2015 12:36:17 PM PDT · 17 of 31
    x to TigersEye
    That's what Warren found when he did his survey in the 1970s. It's not necessarily a put-down.

    John Judis is a socialist who writes for the New Republic. When he wants to do an attack piece, he's savage. This is controlled and contained for him.

    It's certainly something one can disagree with or criticize, but it's not especially vicious considering who wrote it.

    The idea of pinpointing a politicians supporters as part of a class is sort of beside the point. As you note, it can be used as a snobbish put-down.

    More to the point is understanding just what it is in a politician that appeals to voters and just what it is in voters that politicians appeal to. That part of the article may be more worthwhile.

  • Liberals Are Done Debating

    10/03/2015 11:46:55 AM PDT · 59 of 67
    x to lentulusgracchus
    Lentulus, Lentulus,

    You just keep spinning out these nutty digressions. Refuting them only encourages you. But here goes.

    They were socialists opposed to non-socialism. Plunk them down in the "Workers' Paradise" of 1950's East Germany, and every damned one of them would have joined the Stasi or the Vopos.

    First of all, not all the 48ers were socialists. Secondly, most of the socialists in Germany (Social Democrats) in the 1950s opposed Communism and the GDR. Third, taking somebody from one era and popping them in another century when they weren't alive and asking what they would think or do is nonsensical. A person, say, from the 19th century with 19th century ideas confronted with 20th century realities would take some time to figure out just what was going on. So are you talking about some naive person who has done no thinking at all about new circumstances or somebody who's painfully thought things through and come to some knowledge about the new age? Either way, what you're talking about can't be proved one way or the other because the experiment can't be performed. It's sort of like saying that if you lived in 1860 you would have supported slavery -- so I guess it's okay to say that now.

    But finally, I was originally talking about today's Midwestern farmers, shopkeepers, and working people of German or Scandinavian ancestry, who certainly aren't socialists or liberals or intellectuals, but who don't think as you do and don't share your affection for the old South. That you insult them and have to go back half a century or a century and a half for your attack suggests that maybe you aren't their best friend or their natural ally, which was the point I was trying to make.

    No, I am not talking about immigrant Poles stoking blast furnaces or mill girls getting porked by their supervisors, which was one of the charming features of the Millocracy prewar that so set them apart from the planters they accused of miscegenation with the help.

    Such "porking" (do we really have to use that word?) happened. But it was more likely to happen with household servants and their masters, and more likely to occur in conditions of slavery than in free labor situations. So back in your court (though you're the one who brought it up).

    What I was getting at, though, is that not everybody in New England was a Cabot or a Lowell, just as not everybody in the South was a Randolph or a Pinckney. But somehow the Yankees are always "Muffy and Buffy and Skip and Chip and all the other legacy snots who've directed America like a toy train set since 1860 while sneering at anyone who didn't own a Yale sweater," as you put it, and the Southerners are always the put-upon working guys.

    But those Cabots and Lowells weren't a large part even of the native born population. Ask the old Yankees in the Berkshires or on the Maine Coast who staffed (along with Irish and other immigrants) the mansions of the New York millionaires. It wasn't their palaces they were cleaning.

    Part of the poverty of the South after the Civil War had to do with losing the war. Part of it had to do with the slump in agricultural prices, something which affected farmers in other parts of the country as well (including the West and the rural Northeast).

    Those were hard times for a lot of people. Putting so much reliance on cotton, though, was a lousy move. Even without the war and even without increases in domestic production those prices were going to fall when Africa, India, Latin America and other parts of the world enter production in a big way.

    But I don't know about clinging to grievances from a century ago. Being perpetually angry about things that happened before you were born (and being so one-sided about everything that happened) may stoke your self-righteousness, but it may not be the best way to make friends or win allies.

  • Oregon Gunman Singled Out Christians During Rampage

    10/01/2015 5:19:48 PM PDT · 91 of 176
    x to nickcarraway
    Assuming the story is true, wouldn't a Muslim gunman be after all "infidels" or non-Muslims, whatever their religious belief?

    It wouldn't be hard for him to tell who was a Muslim and who wasn't, and there probably wouldn't be that many Muslims in rural Oregon.

    After that, how much would it matter to him who was a Christian and who wasn't?

  • Game on: Bush vs. Rubio

    10/01/2015 5:08:48 PM PDT · 20 of 23
    x to WilliamIII
    In a television interview, Bush framed himself as a leader, and Rubio as a follower.

    More like two followers, though as a former governor, Bush may be a few steps ahead of Rubio.

  • Oregon school shooting: Shooter asks students their religion, report says

    10/01/2015 4:29:22 PM PDT · 39 of 57
    x to Dallas59
    He looks like he could kill somebody.

    Strange Edward Norton vibe.

  • What To Do With 78RPM Records?

    10/01/2015 4:28:00 PM PDT · 68 of 96
    x to originalbuckeye
    If they're classic American folk or jazz or early country from the 1920s and 1930s, Joe Bussard would be interested.

    But the records he likes is very rare indeed, not stuff like Eddie Fisher's "Oh My Papa," which my grandparents had in the house for years.


    10/01/2015 4:11:38 PM PDT · 62 of 67
    x to Swordmaker
    This so-called professor, who claims to know so much, actually demonstrates her cluelessness about Apple, a company which has sold 1.2 BILLION iOS devices, based on the few hundred people who queue to buy devices on a release day at each Apple store that "“And yet it's a cult. Right? It's so obviously a cult.” . . . "Right?" she asks. . . she doesn't know. She IS clueless.

    Because the reporter didn't do her the courtesy of cleaning up her quotes?

    It's not hard to make somebody sound "clueless" if you print all their comments verbatim.

    Whether Apple Stores are in some way "temples" is a valid, open question and one that some cultural conservatives might answer in the affirmative.

  • We Are Watching The Lost The Entire Middle East To Russia & Iran

    10/01/2015 3:09:34 PM PDT · 58 of 58
    x to sagar
    Can’t “lose” it if you never had it.

    I guess so.

    Let them hate the Russians for a while instead of us.

  • Breaking: This Place Was Just Named Number One for Islamic Threats in America- Spread This

    10/01/2015 2:58:56 PM PDT · 42 of 45
    x to conservativejoy
    “Tennessee is ground zero for Muslim activism in the United States,” Cathy Hinners said at a panel at the Values Voters Summit in Washington, D.C., last week.

    She lives in Tennessee, so that's her focus.

    If she lived somewhere else, that would be ground zero for her.

    I'm not saying that there isn't a problem, just that Tennessee may not be the center of it.

  • Famous Black Radical Makes Chic Move (Ta-Neshi Coates Decamps to Paris. Don't Come Back)

    10/01/2015 2:46:47 PM PDT · 18 of 21
    x to miss marmelstein; bigdaddy45
    There are only 20 arondissements.

    The "no-go areas," if they exist, would be housing projects outside the city limits.

    In France, rich people like living in cities, and you're likely to find poor people in the suburbs.

  • Fiorina: 'We must be prepared’ to use force on Russia

    10/01/2015 2:01:42 PM PDT · 176 of 241
    x to jimbo123
    I don't know about journalists extracting or abstracting manufactured quotes like "We must be prepared to use force in Syria" out of this confused or confusing off-the-cuff exchange.

    I guess that's what happens to presidential candidates -- they get asked questions they aren't prepared to answer and then get held to the responses they make -- but it sounds like people are making out that her ideas about Syria are more definite and thought-out than they actually are.

  • Let’s Not Move to Mars

    10/01/2015 1:48:40 PM PDT · 66 of 93
    x to EveningStar
    In the early years of the 20th century, zeppelins filled with flammable and explosive hydrogen were all the rage in Germany, a reckless infatuation that ended with the eruption and crash of the Hindenburg in 1937. Sometimes, technology is a triumph of wild-eyed enthusiasm over the unpleasant facts of the real world.


    Ed Regis is the author of “Monsters: The Hindenburg Disaster and the Birth of Pathological Technology.”


    Okay, so we know what his obsession is.

    Pathological anti-hydrogenism poisons everything.

    Like Kennedy said:

    We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.

    That answers Mr. Hydrogen-Hater.

    I wonder, though.

    What were "the other things" that were so darned hard?

  • More Asian than Hispanic immigrants: political implications?

    09/29/2015 4:48:48 PM PDT · 14 of 45
    x to gaijin
    The second generation is liberal. It's the same sort of thing that goes on with Jews. They don't identify with Republicans, who are thought of as too rural or old-fashioned and not with-it.

    In the first generation there's some variation. Vietnamese tended to vote Republican, as did Chinese for a long time (the way Cubans did and for similar reasons).

    With first-generation Indians and others the vote varies. From my experience, they tend to go with the party in power. Admittedly it's a small sample, but the people I know down the street were Republicans when Bush was in and are Democrats now.

  • EXCLUSIVE: #Boehner’s Replacement Is Carrying On Long Running Affair With Congresswoman

    09/29/2015 4:32:16 PM PDT · 56 of 99
    x to montag813
    McCarthy is more pro-amnesty than Boner and has 35% “Latinos” in his district.

    Not necessarily all recent immigrants and illegals, though.

  • EXCLUSIVE: #Boehner’s Replacement Is Carrying On Long Running Affair With Congresswoman

    09/29/2015 4:19:55 PM PDT · 35 of 99
    x to 2ndDivisionVet
    Sex scandals helped bring down Newt Gingrich in 1988 and then brought down Bob Livingston ...

    Which gave us "scandal-free" Dennis Hastert ...

  • GOP’s 2016 Festival of Hate: It’s Already the Most Racist Presidential Campaign Ever

    09/29/2015 3:04:09 PM PDT · 22 of 35
    x to 2ndDivisionVet
    Um ... I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "No" ...

  • McCarthy on How He Would Differ From Boehner: ‘I Won’t Be As Tanned’

    09/29/2015 2:45:34 PM PDT · 31 of 40
    x to Kenny

    You really want to go overboard with the "untanned" thing?

  • Liberals Are Done Debating

    09/29/2015 2:43:35 PM PDT · 48 of 67
    x to lentulusgracchus
    I lost my earlier reply to you, but in it I did note that German immigrants, with their tradition of authoritarianism (which made Union men of them reflexively, when the Civil War began: government is God, all praise the government), did not settle in areas haunted by Jacksonians, but instead clustered with their own in northern Missouri, Nebraska, and Iowa.

    The 48ers? They were opposed to the German "tradition of authoritarianism." That's one big reason why most of them they were opposed to slavery. Of course many Germans came here for economic reasons. But my point was that those attitudes that you attacked as Catholic or big city -- not statism, but a village or communitarian view of the world -- were shared by many Protestants and rural Americans.

    Those who went to Texas found out the hard way what public expressions of support for Unionism could get you there.

    And you celebrate that? Even the acts of what we'd now have to call terrorism?

    Of course they were "conservative" then: They'd won the Civil War (the gomers out West had no idea they'd lost, just like the South, except when they tried to transship their crops to market on Yankee-owned railroads), they were wallowing in the spoils of a continent, and they always had the Southern rednecks to eat .... and spit on. Life was good. Of course they were "conservative" -- they had it all, which was all the sweeter because those crackers down South had damn-all and were poorer than dirt. Yes, life was sweet.

    Always with the emotionalism. I'm pretty sure that New England factory or farm hands (or even bankers and professors) didn't spend much time eating or spitting on poor Southerners. It wasn't like they had the Internet and all the leisure to malign people.

    "Having it all" in 1880 or 1890 or 1910 mean having not much by today's standards. Life in turn of the last century New England could be pretty tough (read Robert Frost or Ethan Frome). Even back in those days, there was talk about the grimness of New England farm and factory life.

    I suppose that every group that isn't conservative can be said to be better off than some other group by somebody who wants to undermine their thinking. Somebody could do that to you too, and maybe point out that Texas or the South today isn't what it was a century ago, and that all your victim talk really doesn't reflect how things are now.

    No, attitudes and values migrated west with the people who left the Eastern source-areas ...

    That's true of Oregon, but not so true of Washington State. Not really so true of California, either. Sure, New Englanders went to Oregon, but coastal dwellers generally have a different take on things than inlanders. You can see that in the way that Los Angeles, settled by Midwesterners and Southerners, has become more like San Francisco (settled from Europe and the Northeast) in its political attitudes. Even without being on the ocean, a major city like Atlanta comes to harbor very different points of view from the outlying countryside.

    But if you think the country would blow apart if confronted by a constitutional convention, then you're certainly entitled to your opinion. I happen not to share it ...

    "Middle America or the "Silent Majority" was the product of years of shared experience, struggle even -- the Great Depression, WWII, the Cold War. Most of us now don't have common public experiences like that to tie us together. So if the country splits up it will be messy and complicated. That kind of massive FU that you direct against some parts of the country is a reflection of disaffection or alienation that won't be easy to contain. Don't be surprised if even people you might take for allies turn it back on you.

  • Jeb Bush’s poll numbers are terrible. So why aren’t we talking about them?

    09/29/2015 1:00:43 PM PDT · 29 of 34
    x to jimbo123

    Some days we don’t talk about anything but that ...

  • No Republican 2016 candidate is less liked by his or her party than Jeb Bush

    09/28/2015 3:35:54 PM PDT · 23 of 26
    x to Gumdrop
    It is a sad state of affairs. Actually I think Jeb is a decent sort of guy. Is it that he is so much disliked - or is it the people resent another member of the Bush family being pushed onto center stage, when what we need is a dynamic personality, high energy type of candidate?

    Jeb went out of his way to antagonize the party with his immigration comments. It's not so much the policies he supported as it is the language that he used and his attitude. Add to that the family thing and his low energy and goofiness and that explains a lot.

  • Kevin McCarthy Declares Candidacy For Speaker Of The House

    09/28/2015 3:22:09 PM PDT · 21 of 63
    x to Biggirl
    "They're're're next!"

  • Ted Cruz, The Lone Stranger

    09/28/2015 2:53:53 PM PDT · 25 of 37
    x to 2ndDivisionVet
    Armchair psychoanalysis of political figures can be a dubious and even disreputable business.

    True. So why do it?

    Why attack Ted Cruz if he's only polling in the middle of the pack? Or is he? Show me the plethora of attack articles about Mike Huckabee, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio or Rick Santorum. Hint: You can't.

    Cruz is the target that gets their juices flowing. He also gets their donation money flowing.

    If he weren't around, somebody else would be their target. But it would be less satisfying for them.

  • Putin to Obama: Learn The Lessons Of Soviet History, "Social Experiments For Export" Do Not Work

    09/28/2015 2:50:16 PM PDT · 40 of 57
    x to The Ghost of FReepers Past
    Maybe I am mistaken, but isn’t it a rewrite to say that the goal of the Gulf War was the democratization of Iraq? Wasn’t it about Iraq invading Kuwait and murdering Kurds as well as torturing their own people?

    Gulf War 1990-1991, sure.

    But I'm pretty sure there was another Bush later who had different plans.

  • Ted Cruz, The Lone Stranger

    09/28/2015 2:48:19 PM PDT · 21 of 37
    x to Busko
    All the RINOs that hated Reagan in the 70s and 80s, that would be the Bushes, Ford, McConnell and the Rockefellers and the rest of the establishment. Cruz would win a landside if he is not taken out by them!!!

    Marvellous fantasy, but Reagan wouldn't have won without votes from people like that.

    You may be thinking of Goldwater. He didn't win.

  • Putin to Obama: Learn The Lessons Of Soviet History, "Social Experiments For Export" Do Not Work

    09/28/2015 2:07:20 PM PDT · 24 of 57
    x to Sir Napsalot

    Sure. Democratization worked in (much of) Eastern Europe, because it was a popular movement (and because there was already some experience — however short — of working representative government). Attempts to democratize the Middle East — Bush’s as well as Obama’s — have been far less successful because the foundation of rule of law and respect for the individual really weren’t there.

  • How Liberalism Advances

    09/28/2015 1:38:36 PM PDT · 3 of 5
    x to alstewartfan
    The guy has referred to his “sister, Mother Earth” in the past.

    That was a quotation from the medieval St. Francis of Assisi.

  • Carly Fiorina is the one Jeb fears most (Team Jeb sending oppo research on FioRINO to reporters)

    09/28/2015 1:05:07 PM PDT · 22 of 28
    x to Attention Surplus Disorder
    Karl Rove might not be in love with Jeb. More here.

    It's like that in family groups. One brother's cronies may not like the other brother that much.

    And if the Rove assassination machine is Fox News, they aren't that much in love with Jeb either.

    They may agree with his positions, but if they can get somebody with similar positions but less cumbersome personal baggage, they'll ditch Jeb pretty quickly.

  • Pope Francis spreads his Marxist message (Saturbray)

    09/26/2015 12:53:20 PM PDT · 4 of 37
    x to bray
    He's 78 years old. Like John XXIII who was about the same age when he became pope, Francis won't be around that long. John Paul II, by contrast, was 20 years younger. He'll make some changes, as John XXIII did, but soon enough liberals will be complaining about the Roman Catholic Church again.

    I suspect Francis was chosen because the cardinals wanted a "Third World" pope, but weren't ready to go with an African or Asian. What they didn't realize is that Argentina is basically Europe -- Spain or Italy -- only more so.

    The next pope, possibly African, will be more conservative on things like global warming and on church doctrine, though not on some other issues. Like John Paul and Benedict, he'd avoid controversial anti-capitalist messages, and put his focus on other matters.

    Non-profit organizations tend to be critical of the for-profit market economy. It would be surprising if there weren't some tension between churches and commerce.

  • Education Secretary Duncan’s children to go to Chicago private school he attended

    09/26/2015 12:27:16 PM PDT · 13 of 17
    x to Guardian Sebastian
    I have a feeling that the private schools these elites are sending their kids to are more indoctrination centers than the government schools.

    Maybe. If you go to some of those schools you're more likely to be PC etc. because of your parents, and when you come out, you're more connected to that progressive world so whatever indoctrination you get is likely to take. If you graduate from some progressive private schools, it's likely or quite possible that progressive ideology will be your future bread and butter, so you don't question it. At public schools, students can just let all that stuff (and a lot of other stuff) go in one ear and out the other.

  • Education Secretary Duncan’s children to go to Chicago private school he attended

    09/26/2015 11:34:50 AM PDT · 8 of 17
    x to george76

    Is it good or bad that we’ve heard so little from this guy over seven years?

  • How a Famous English Convention Clarifies the Role of a Convention of States

    09/26/2015 11:33:36 AM PDT · 5 of 5
    x to cotton1706
    A Convention Parliament was a parliament not summoned by the king.
  • First Ann Coulter Came For The Jews, Now It’s the Catholics’ Turn

    09/26/2015 11:30:18 AM PDT · 77 of 99
    x to highball
    Most of the "conservative" figures in popular culture are just in for the paycheck. Like Limbaugh, they're entertainers who have learned how lucrative playing a conservative character can be.

    That's easy to say.

    But how many people who don't get paid for it are playing a role?

  • First Ann Coulter Came For The Jews, Now It’s the Catholics’ Turn

    09/26/2015 11:26:52 AM PDT · 76 of 99
    x to LowOiL
    I thought it was proven that the “F Jews” thing was a sly quote from Hillary that Ann used to mock Hillary? Not in the best of taste I admit, but still this is FR and we like to find the correct context for quotes.

    That might make more sense if Hillary was in the debate.

    As it is, it's a stretch.

  • First Ann Coulter Came For The Jews, Now It’s the Catholics’ Turn

    09/26/2015 11:24:19 AM PDT · 75 of 99
    x to boop
    The "f%$king jews" comment comes DIRECTLY from Hillary saying it to Dick Morris.

    And when she got into trouble for calling John Edwards a "faggot", she was simply repeating what a black actor said to another actor and got fired over it.

    You can always find a precedent for something. Somebody somewhere always said something similar first. I'd understand a little if what she said was meant to be satirical, but either way it's no excuse.

  • Liberals Are Done Debating

    09/26/2015 10:30:28 AM PDT · 46 of 67
    x to lentulusgracchus
    Lentulus, Lentulus ...

    The bicoastal distribution of liberalism is a result of Yankee migration out West, starting with Oregon and the Old Northwest, and the only partial acculturation of the Atlantic Slope "deferential society" (as historian T.R. Fehrenbach calls it, I haven't seen the phrase elsewhere but it works) to Middle American values. Others are simply still half-European and never really got off the boat, but were intercepted on the wharf by ward heelers who took charge of them.

    My idea of a new Constitution, same as the old one, but with New England and downstate New York disinvited, would give us the political heft to invite the rest of the "New America" to emigrate to Uruguay or Paraguay, where the Gay Left is going to create a fabulous new society and show us all how it's done (instead of leeching off us and stealing people's kids).

    "Deferential society"? Read your book again. What part of America was more deferential than the Tidewater and the Lowland South? Old Virginia? Charleston? New Englanders had a reputation for being unruly disturbers of the peace -- Roundhead regicides in the 17th century, Sons of Liberty and Minutemen in the 18th, Abolitionists and Transcendentalists in the 19th. At least that's what Southern militants said about New England before and after the Civil War.

    Of course there were long periods when New England was one of the more conservative parts of the country (say from the 1880s to the 1950s). This indicates that it's not so easy to make generalizations about the political culture of different regions. Connecticut and Alabama or Vermont and Mississippi are almost always going to be on opposite sides of political fights at any given time, but the positions taken may differ widely from era to era.

    Of course, Portland OR has more in common with Portland ME than with a lot of other places in between. But the main factor is (as you suggest) that cities tend to vote Democrat and rural areas vote Republican. States dominated by cities and urban ways vote Democrat. Southern cities tend to vote Democrat. Atlanta and Jackson MS, say, weren't that far behind Northern cities in their vote for Obama. But there are more rural voters in Southern states. I know that it's more complicated than that, but heavy urban support for Democrats puts a monkey wrench in your plan.

    "Middle America"? Does that include regions settled by Germans, Scandinavians, Dutch, Czechs? You might be surprised at how "half-European" by your standards some of them may be. Certainly, you'd be surprised at how little enthusiasm many of them would have for your plan. If the country splits up, it splits up in a big way. Ohio and South Carolina, Idaho and Arkansas, or Iowa and Alabama may realize that they don't have that much in common and don't want to subject themselves to some government over on the other side of the continent.

    The thing about "Middle America" or the "Silent Majority" is that it's people coming together against something. Take away that something and people on different sides of the country may find that they don't have that much in common. It's also people coming together for something, but if the country's being torn apart we might see just how weak that "something" binding different states to the union has become. None of the pieces would be able to play the kind of role the US does in the world today. On balance, that would probably be a bad thing.

  • Trump says he's the rare Republican who can woo black voters

    09/24/2015 5:04:30 PM PDT · 18 of 50
    x to 2ndDivisionVet

    Wooing don’t always mean winning, though.


    09/24/2015 5:02:32 PM PDT · 36 of 53
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    If you look at Dukakis, Clinton, Carter, and Obama, there is a common theme.

    That theme is one of relative obscurity. ...

    These people can thus have a history created for them. Nobody knows them. A historical construct is presented to the public, and anything now beneficial to their image is left out.

    Sure. Somebody picked them. Carter, Clinton, and Obama all made the cover of Time early on, and all went to (I don't want to sound conspiratorial here, but I believe it's on the record) CFR, Trilateral or Bildebergers meetings before running (not so much to take orders as to get a general sense of the direction they were expected to take the country or the world). Because they had been so little known it was easy to create an image for them that may not have been supported by facts.

    Fiorina (and Sanders) though, haven't had the full treatment. If one of them does get the nomination, they'll more likely have earned it on their own than some others who've gotten there. Somebody like Ben Carson or Herman Cain also emerged from obscurity, but if either managed to get a nomination it won't be like anybody gave it to them.

  • Jeb Bush is in 5th place in this NH poll. But that’s not his worst news out of the survey.

    09/24/2015 4:26:36 PM PDT · 25 of 45
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    The objective is to use Fiorina as a foil to destroy Trump, then wipe her out so a RINO Dream ticket of Bush/Rubio can emerges.

    They're from the same state.

    Constitutionally that ticket could happen, but one of the candidates would have to forfeit the state's electoral votes so such tickets never happen.

    Right now, though, Fiorina is more likely to push Bush out of the race than vice versa. Bush and Rubio are both more likely to go under than to make it to the end.

  • Donald Trump Goes Ballistic...Journalist Uses Lewd Insult Against Him On Fox News

    09/24/2015 4:03:03 PM PDT · 67 of 76
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    Jeff Kuhner said that Fox News always asks the guests what they are going to say before they go on the air.

    In general terms, probably.

    It's a little hard to believe that they'd pre-planned or coordinated the "cut his balls off" comment.

    She's doing fine in the ratings and doesn't need to manufacture phony controversies.