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  • Question: Who endorsed/supported Bush in the 1980 primary?

    07/31/2014 5:03:03 PM PDT · 12 of 38
    x to thetallguy24

    Mark Levin says Will endorsed Baker, then Bush over Reagan in 1980. But it’s hard to say just what that means unless you see the actual columns. I don’t remember Will fighting very hard against a Reagan nomination. Anyway, isn’t it all ancient history by now?

  • Paul Ryan: Obama's Exec Amnesty Not 'High Crimes'

    07/31/2014 4:53:52 PM PDT · 40 of 41
    x to 2ndDivisionVet

    It’s a non-controversy. The Senate isn’t going to convict for anything that’s happened so far. There’s no point in beating up Ryan for recognizing the obvious.

  • German officer will serve as US Army Chief of Staff in Europe. First non-American Officer.

    07/31/2014 3:58:18 PM PDT · 80 of 170
    x to machogirl

    Hmmm ... no bio out there on the guy yet ...

  • Orban wants to build ‘illiberal state’ (Hungary)

    07/31/2014 3:22:22 PM PDT · 6 of 7
    x to Olog-hai

    Maybe, but if the EU is that dedicated to wielding unitary power they won’t be too willing to let the leaders of the member states try to do the same. All the more so, since they are committed to moving in the opposite direction from Orban.

  • Ted Cruz Proves Why He’s Still the Most Hated Man in Congress

    07/31/2014 3:20:04 PM PDT · 46 of 65
    x to Timber Rattler
    Since Boehner and McCarthy are Pelosi is too ball-less to do their her jobs, then Cruz is doing it for them her.
  • Orban wants to build ‘illiberal state’ (Hungary)

    07/31/2014 3:15:20 PM PDT · 4 of 7
    x to Olog-hai
    That could mean any number of things, some worse than others.

    Fareed Zakaria coined the term "illiberal democracy," so maybe he'll explain on his Sunday show.

    It doesn't necessarily mean Orban is the new Mussolini.

    Singapore, say, isn't a threat to anyone.

    But is it really likely that such an "illiberal democracy" could last in the middle of Europe within the EU?

  • Why Did NHS Give Josie Cunningham Boob Job But Not Reece Hawley His Cancer Drugs? (ACA Preview)

    07/31/2014 2:35:58 PM PDT · 4 of 7
    x to nickcarraway
    Not surprise, if you watched a lot of British comedies from the Seventies.

  • Magic Underwear & Magic Food

    07/31/2014 2:16:55 PM PDT · 69 of 297
    x to greyfoxx39
    Mormons believe that a little torn piece of bread and a small sip of water that has been chanted over and then swallowed will require their god to forgive them for their sins.

    Um, not just Mormons.

    As for the rest, most religions have had ideas about ritual purity and purification.

    And most of those ideas sound strange to outsiders.

    "We do not join associations of clergy or councils of churches. We keep our distance from the ecumenical movements.

    Would it really make you so happy if they threw in with the NCC and WCC?

  • Local Couple Wants to Change Middle Names to “Seamonster”

    07/31/2014 1:57:48 PM PDT · 5 of 16
    x to nickcarraway
    This is news?

    BTW, I believe they pronounce it "Seamónster."

  • Pediatricians Have the Right to Ask About Guns

    07/30/2014 2:03:37 PM PDT · 113 of 168
    x to Q-ManRN

    If doctors are offering them, it could be hard for kids to turn them down.

  • Ted Cruz Channels Reagan: 'Mr. Putin, Give Back Crimea'

    07/30/2014 1:13:47 PM PDT · 38 of 71
    x to Tailgunner Joe
    "Mr. Putin, give back Crimea," Cruz said at the Young America's Foundation in Washington. "Why is it so unimaginable for President Obama to utter those words?"

    Is Ted serious? All Obama does is throw words around. And when he doesn't back them up, he comes in for ridicule. And evicting Putin from Crimea isn't something Obama or the US are in any position to do. When the words aren't backed up with action, they'll look hollow and worthless. So obviously, it's not something the president is going to say anytime soon.

    "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" is a rhetorical exhortation. Nobody's going to be surprised or angry or very disappointed if Gorbachev doesn't tear down the wall immediately. "Mr. Putin, give back Crimea!" looks a lot more like a demand. Putin will ignore it and score points from his supporters, and the person who says the line will look ridiculous -- or more ridiculous. And there may be a limit to how ridiculous Obama can afford to look look (maybe ... though his supporters don't seem to notice much).

    I guess Ted's idea is that we need decisive, confident, and forceful leadership now. Okay, point taken, but leadership is more a matter of action than of striking more dramatic poses. Reagan wasn't great because he bequeathed a lot of rhetorical tropes to Ted's generation, but because he was able to respond to crises with right actions rather than just fine words.

  • Report: Obama Was Rude and Hostile During Phone Call With Netanyahu (transcript leaked)

    07/29/2014 3:14:36 PM PDT · 203 of 269
    x to Dave346
    OBAMA: I think you're a Charlotte.

    NETANYAHU: No. I'm a Carrie.

    OBAMA: Def a Charlotte.

    NETANYAHU: Who are you?

    OBAMA: Samantha.

    The 10 funniest parodies of the obviously fake Obama-Netanyahu phone transcript

  • Transcript of Netanyahu - Obama phone call leaked to Israeli media?

    07/29/2014 3:11:46 PM PDT · 11 of 13
    x to Nachum
    OBAMA: They call it a "Royale with Cheese."

    NETANYAHU: "Royale with Cheese."

    OBAMA: That's right.

    NETANYAHU: What do they call a Big Mac?

    The 10 funniest parodies of the obviously fake Obama-Netanyahu phone transcript

  • Freddie Prinze Jr. on His '24' Days: 'Kiefer was the Most Unprofessional Dude in the World'

    07/28/2014 3:50:03 PM PDT · 39 of 102
    x to Pilgrim's Progress
    I have a really hard time believing that a socialist would take a role playing a pro-government counter-terrorism agent.

    It's called "acting."

    It's about money.

    And who's to say that government Jack Bauer works for isn't socialist itself.

  • Any stories of Obama buyer's remorse?

    07/26/2014 1:49:28 PM PDT · 19 of 45
    x to FreedomPoster
    Remember, these Dem’s parents and grandparents voted for FDR multiple times, despite how horrible the U.S. economy remained, 3 times. So 8 years wasn’t enough. If WWII hadn’t intervened, they’d have voted for him again despite the fact that the economy would have remained horrible. I’ll give people a pass for not changing Presidents in the middle of a major war.

    Plenty of people whose parents or grandparents voted for FDR are now Republicans, and plenty of people whose parents or grandparents voted for Hoover or Landon or Willkie or Dewey voted for Obama.

    I'd cut the old folks a little slack. A lot of them didn't have any hope that things could get better.

  • Any stories of Obama buyer's remorse?

    07/26/2014 1:44:30 PM PDT · 18 of 45
    x to eekitsagreek
    According to one poll, 71% of Obama voters said they regretted voting for him, but 79% said they'd vote for him again.

    I don't get it either.

    Maybe they meant they had regrets but would never vote for a Republican (or at least for Romney).

  • These Are The Happiest And Unhappiest Regions In The US

    07/26/2014 1:07:58 PM PDT · 30 of 39
    x to taxcontrol
    Some people will say the red states are happy and the blue ones unhappy. There may be some deeper reason for that.

    Something about being contented with what you have, maybe? Rural vs. urban also plays a role.

    But why is Georgia so happy and Alabama less happy? Why are you happy in Nashville and not so happy in the rest of Tennessee?

    Why is Louisiana happy and Arkansas not? And does that last one have anything to do with the Clintons?

  • Immigrant kids bring out the phobias in conservative xenophobes

    07/26/2014 12:59:36 PM PDT · 84 of 92
    x to Olog-hai
    Isn’t this guy normally a cartoonist?

    Looks like it. His thought processes (if he has them) are pretty simplistic. You can see his cartoon of Superman as an illegal immigrant child on the Times website (and a link to his e-mail is there as well -- not saying anybody should use it but he wasn't afraid to put it there as another poster said).

    There ought to be some way of finding out if his word pieces are actually published in the paper or just put up on the website. I guess it matters less and less nowadays as the webpage may get more readers than the actual printed newspaper and the paper is responsible for all of their content, but it would be nice to think that editors still had some standards.

  • 7 / 2014To My Christian Friends Who Side With Israel (Hurl Alert)

    07/26/2014 12:40:33 PM PDT · 31 of 80
    x to MuttTheHoople
    Egyptian and Jordanian Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" (the term Palestinian is a Latinized version of Philistine, the way Rome mocked the Jews as they drove them out of the Holy Land).

    You can find "Peleset" or "Peleshet" and other similar names in Egyptian, Hebrew, and Greek going back centuries before the Roman conquest and expulsion.

  • The Fantastic Four – 4 Essential Wild Edible Plants That May Just Save Your Life

    07/26/2014 12:23:38 PM PDT · 49 of 54
    x to Utilizer
    More detailed information on exactly how to subsist on pine products might be helpful, however, since I do not know personally anyone who harvests them for eating.

    Euell "Ever eat a pine tree? Many parts are edible" Gibbons.

    He died shortly after making the Grape Nuts commercial that made him famous. The joke was that he choked on a pine cone.

    That was almost forty years ago. This makes me feel really, really old all of a sudden.

  • Newt Gingrich : 2014-07-27 : Bigger than President Obama

    07/26/2014 12:19:31 PM PDT · 30 of 46
    x to Patton@Bastogne
    Newt 2020!

    (That's when he's due for his next divorce and marriage)

  • These Are The Happiest And Unhappiest Regions In The US

    07/26/2014 12:13:58 PM PDT · 14 of 39
    x to SeekAndFind
    At least it may be a survey of where people actually are happy, and not of places where they are supposed to be happy in the survey-takers opinion. Maybe it has more to do with contentedness that with that elusive thing called true happiness, though.

    It looks like people in highly stressed or depressed environments, like Detroit and Long Island, aren't happy. Not really a surprise. Also people who live in cities that are in the orbit of other wealthier places -- people who live in Springfield, MA rather than Connecticut or Vermont, or in Scranton or Buffalo, rather than New York City.

  • The Fantastic Four – 4 Essential Wild Edible Plants That May Just Save Your Life

    07/26/2014 12:06:21 PM PDT · 44 of 54
    x to Utilizer
    For instance, wheat and oats are not what one normally considers your average "grass" in many places.

    Wild oats are just about everywhere I go, growing as weeds by the side of the road.

    As far as your average lawn is concerned, I would have liked to know how exactly one could consider that edible?

    You probably won't be able to digest the grass in your front lawn, but if you let it go long enough something edible might turn up there. Check in a book first, though.

  • "Why 'Modern Family' Star Eric Stonestreet Refused A Photo With Rick Santorum" (Huffington Post)

    07/25/2014 2:42:49 PM PDT · 16 of 37
    x to Hot Tabasco
    Stonestreet does come across as a snob who wants to rub shoulders with bigwigs, but I don't think the White House Correspondents' Dinner is actually in the White House. It's run by a separate organization.

    It wouldn't be a bad thing if the dinner really did show politicians "for who they are," but lately it's just been softball lines about Obama and a lot of bashing of Republicans.

  • Lawmaker to Push Bill Requiring Dinesh D'Souza's 'America' Be Shown in Schools

    07/25/2014 2:13:53 PM PDT · 33 of 43
    x to afraidfortherepublic
    File under "Yet Another Reason Why the 17th Amendment Might Not Necessarily Have Been A Terrible Thing."

    The movie may or may not be something young people should see, but state legislators ordering them to see it (or mandating that the movie be shown in every school) is not a good idea.

  • The Vindication of Barry Goldwater

    07/24/2014 4:18:21 PM PDT · 29 of 49
    x to Tennessee Nana
    Romney gave money and aid to the Democrat Johnson..

    No. He didn't endorse or support either candidate.

    He also didn't walk out of the convention.

  • Ohio State fires band director Jonathan Waters over ‘sexualized’ culture

    07/24/2014 2:06:50 PM PDT · 12 of 46
    x to dfwgator

    He's the big-headed fellow standing next to the guy with the baton.

  • Who on FR watches "House of Cards" Series

    07/23/2014 2:43:34 PM PDT · 28 of 111
    x to C. Edmund Wright
    The original series was British and starred Ian Richardson. It was scathing about British politics and especially the Conservative Party. That's to be expected of the BBC, but the interesting thing is that the author of the books the series was based on was a Tory politician and a close associate of Margaret Thatcher and John Major.

    I thought the Kevin Spacey series was pretty good, though dated. You wouldn't expect a White South Carolinian to have much influence in today's Democratic Party, though that was certainly true of the Democrats in earlier decades. One thing about the series is that we kind of feel like we know Washington goings-on, so really outrageous plot lines might be hard to believe (or maybe not, considering what it is that we actually do know about Washington).

    Boss with Kelsey Grammar was also over-the-top in some of its intrigues, but it's easier to believe that a mayor of Chicago would get away with some really outrageous acts than that a congressman could. Plus, sometimes you can get tired of Spacey's archness and irony and want to go for something more straightforward. I miss Boss. If you like House of Cards, you might give it a try.

    Then there's Borgen from Denmark, about a woman prime minister ...

  • Box-Office Slump: Hollywood Facing Worst Summer in Eight Years (Obama effect?)

    07/23/2014 2:16:17 PM PDT · 101 of 107
    x to stuck_in_new_orleans
    Why do some people blame Obama for everything. Poor movie ticket sales? Obamas fault. Raining outside? Obamas fault. Maybe, just maybe, this years movies are awful and not worth 12$ a ticket.

    Maybe. The "Obama effect" was something tacked on to the headline for what may have been humorous, tongue-in-cheek reasons.

    But it's young people who make up most of the audience for the summer blockbusters, and if teen unemployment is high, they can't go to the movies. So maybe the economy and Obama do have something to do with it.

    I think it's probably more a matter of the studios releasing movies earlier in the year, rather than during the "mummer blockbuster season." Maybe they found out it didn't matter whether they brought out their big superhero pictures during the summer or at some other time of the year.

  • Ted Cruz: The facts suggest President Obama has just used the FAA to launch an ECONOMIC BOYCOTT

    07/23/2014 2:02:06 PM PDT · 36 of 50
    Didn't mean to say "boycott." I meant the 24 or 48 hour suspension of flights.

    Ted may realize that we don't want to have another major air disaster, this time involving one of our own airliners, so maybe a redirection of flights to another airport is called for.

  • Ted Cruz: The facts suggest President Obama has just used the FAA to launch an ECONOMIC BOYCOTT

    07/23/2014 1:59:34 PM PDT · 33 of 50
    x to PoloSec

    Somebody could turn that around pretty easily, though: in opposing a boycott is Ted Cruz angling to drag the US into the war that would result if a missile hits one of our airliners?

  • MH17: By defying the West, bully-boy Vladimir Putin could lead Russia to ruin

    07/23/2014 1:28:37 PM PDT · 35 of 49
    x to Tailgunner Joe
    Compared to what, though? 1917? 1921? 1932? 1938? 1942?

    Are things really going to be as bad as they were even 20 years ago?

  • Elizabeth Warren To La Raza: 'Get Louder' For Amnesty 'Against' Lobbyists Who Back It

    07/22/2014 3:09:23 PM PDT · 35 of 35
    x to SeekAndFind
    Hmmm ... when people ask if politicians really believe the things they say, I usually respond that it's the party line, it brings them votes, and they stick to it, so it doesn't matter whether it's what they "really" think or believe.

    But the stupidity here has to be all Liz's own and that's not good.

    "Be stronger than the lobbyists," she declared. "We have to do this."

    I can just hear the break in her "concerned voice" between the two sentences.

  • When College Isn't Worth It

  • D'Souza's America

    07/22/2014 2:19:25 PM PDT · 4 of 10
    x to Kaslin; rockrr
    D’ Souza’s narrative actually paints a most unflattering picture of America, for it distinguishes Americans as the only people ever that, in spite of having dedicated their collective being to an abstraction, nevertheless had to savage each other to stop themselves from savaging Africans and others.

    So the idea is that by making America out to be too good, D'Souza ends up making it look worse.

    Okay, but in trying to make D'Souza's movie look bad and falling for all the depraved Lost Cause b*llsh*t, Kerwick makes D'Souza and his movie look much better than they probably are.

  • Why would PPP ask McDaniel voters if they would support CSA in 2nd Civil War?

    07/22/2014 2:04:13 PM PDT · 14 of 15
    x to deport
    PPP is described as one of the "most accurate" polling companies and also as a "Democratic-leaning" polling company because it polls only for Democratic and progressive campaigns and organizations on a private basis.

    In addition to political issues, the company has polled the public on such diverse topics as the approval rating of God, whether Republican voters believe President Obama would be eligible to enter heaven in the event of the Rapture and whether hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being annoying. -- Wikipedia


    There's Something Wrong With America's Premier Liberal Pollster The problem with PPP's methodology

    No pollster attracts more love and hate than Public Policy Polling. The Democratically aligned polling firm routinely asks questions that poke fun at Republicans, like whether then-Senator Barack Obama was responsible for Hurricane Katrina. Not coincidentally, Republicans routinely accuse them of being biased toward Democrats. Last fall, PPP was front and center in conservative complaints about allegedly skewed polls. But when the election results came in, PPP’s polls were vindicated and the conspiracy-minded critics were debunked.

    Pollsters, though, tend to judge one another based more on methodology than record. And for experts and competitors, the firm’s success remains difficult to explain. PPP doesn’t follow many of the industry’s best practices, like calling voters' cell phones; the firm only calls landlines. It discards hundreds of respondents in an unusual process known as “random deletion.” And because PPP's interviewers rely on lists of registered voters—rather than random digit dialing—and simply ask non-voters to hang up the phone, the firm can’t use census numbers to weight their sample, as many other pollsters do. This forces PPP to make more, and more subjective, judgments about just who will be voting. ... - The New Republic

  • Biden to Putin: I don't think 'you have a soul'

    07/21/2014 2:35:23 PM PDT · 26 of 41
    x to Quality_Not_Quantity
    The Joe Biden who said he played college football ...

    The Joe Biden who said he had a full academic scholarship?

    The Joe Biden who said he voted against the Iraq and Afghanistan wars ...

    The Joe Biden who said his wife was killed by a drunk driver ...

    The Joe Biden who said he was in the room for negotiations to save Security ...

    The Joe Biden who said FDR got on television after the Stock Market crash ...

    The Joe Biden who said his family were poor coal miners ...

  • MERRY: Handicaps in Hillary’s way; Contrary to conventional wisdom, she’s probably finished

    07/21/2014 1:47:43 PM PDT · 25 of 28
    x to 2ndDivisionVet
    The country is at an inflection point brought on by its crisis of political deadlock. It desperately needs a new brand of politics that can break the deadlock and set it upon a new course toward its future and destiny. In such times, a gap normally opens up between the political establishment, guided by the lessons of the past, and the electorate, always ahead of the establishment in pushing for new political paradigms, new dialectical thinking and new coalitions.

    How long has that been true? The country has needed something new -- or rather better -- for a long time but it doesn't seem to get it.

    Maybe the author's the one not living in the real world. Just because he sees a need for something new and understands Hillary's inadequacies, doesn't mean real world voters will meet the need or see through Hillary.

  • Snake In NJ Lake Identified as Green Anaconda

    07/21/2014 1:41:22 PM PDT · 123 of 155
    x to njslim

    MSNBC reports that the Anaconda went to high school with Chris Christie. More developing ...

  • Benjamin Netanyahu Had to Tell John Kerry "This is Not Vietnam"

    07/21/2014 1:37:24 PM PDT · 21 of 67
    x to allendale
    Netanyahu is a serious man. He has little patience or tolerance for a petulant narcissist like Kerry or Obama.

    Who's being petulant here? And with these three narcissism is more of a relative term. They all have massive egos.

  • As Christians Are Massacred in Iraq, Laid-Back Obama Maintains His Shameful Silence

    07/19/2014 1:49:00 PM PDT · 16 of 25
    x to Fantasywriter
    You are letting words trip you up here. Just as people can be "narcissistic" without being textbook "narcissists," and one could talk about someone's neediness being "pathological" without an actual and literal psychopathology being involved, so someone can be "malignant" or malign or malevolent (and a narcissist, too) without being a "malignant narcissist." The phrase has a specific meaning that goes beyond mere nastiness.

    Politicians (and lawyers and high-flying executives) can be very nasty people. They are also involved in fields where "normal" behavior is quite rough and competitive, even devious. And behaviors that one applauds in one's own leaders are often seen as malicious, spiteful, even pathological. I'm hesitant about turning everything into a matter of psychopathology.

    If it was wrong for the therapeutic profession to start "psychoanalyzing" Barry Goldwater from afar, do 50 years and a change of party make it right? Also, does slapping a label on a politician, say Nixon or Johnson, or Carter or Clinton, really tell you any more than we already know about them? Or does the label leave us knowing and saying less than we already do?

    I think you're right about Obama's childhood wounds and neediness and right about his creating an alternate reality for himself. I have to wonder about some of your examples, though. Observers may see more pettiness and desire to humiliate in powerful people than is actually there. I'm pretty sure that Obama has enough ways to get back at people and make his power felt that he doesn't need to intentionally mispronounce the word "corpsman."

    My main point in posting, though, was just to say that narcissism doesn't mean psychopathy or sociopathy. People see "narcissist" and think "Hitler" or somebody who's going to start dropping bombs on them. Narcissistic weakness or brittleness can have very bad effects. You don't want a narcissistic leader, and maybe you can't say that often enough. But the fact that narcissism in a leader doesn't mean Hitler is also something that bears repeating.

  • McCain: Had I won in 2000, Iraq War might not have happened

    07/19/2014 12:34:08 PM PDT · 44 of 58
    x to WilliamIII
    By the way, I don’t remember John McCain opposing the invasion of Iraq, so I’m not sure what he’s saying now; doesn’t make sense - but that’s not unusual for him

    McCain is saying he's like a lot of people. They went along with Bush and the war, but they wouldn't have conceived of the idea of a war of choice to replace Saddam on their own if it were up to them. I don't know if McCain is really being truthful about this: he likes military engagements an awful lot more than most people. But if what he's saying "doesn't make sense," that can be said about a lot of people when it comes to the Iraq war.

  • McCain: Had I won in 2000, Iraq War might not have happened

    07/19/2014 12:30:40 PM PDT · 43 of 58
    x to elpadre
    Saddam was a powerful enabler of the radical Islamic forces.

    Um, no. Saddam saw such groups as a threat to his power and suppressed them. If you are head of a state that is composed of different ethnic and religious groups, you might be hostile organizations that claim to speak for one religious group in your country and want to join up with people of the same religion outside your borders. They threaten your authority and your power base, so if you're a ruthless tyrant, you deal with them ruthlessly. Is that really so hard to understand?

  • 30 Writers Other Writers Loved To Hate

    07/18/2014 12:11:01 PM PDT · 25 of 82
    x to EveningStar

    Some of these aren’t necessarily put-downs. Waugh’s “desperate jauntiness of an orchestra fiddling away for dear life on a sinking ship” was a quality he wanted in his prose and something Wilson appreciated. The remarks about Pound and Orwell catch aspects of their personality that might not have affected Stein’s or Connolly’s appreciation of their work. Also, why the long awkward quote from Wallace about Updike when “just a penis with a thesaurus” does the job so much better.

  • Malaysia Airlines plane crash: How do we deal with a pathological liar like Vladimir Putin?

    07/18/2014 11:55:36 AM PDT · 24 of 40
    x to Tailgunner Joe

    Where does individual psychopathology even enter into it?

  • Mr. Gramsci Explains It All For You

    07/18/2014 11:15:27 AM PDT · 11 of 11
    x to Oldpuppymax
    Say you were a communist or socialist in 1930 or 1970 and you followed the Gramscian strategy. Twenty or Thirty years on, would you really be closer to your goal?

    An older Christian culture might have decayed, but would that really have been your doing, or the result of affluence and secularism? There could be more crime -- or less -- but once again would that actually be something you caused or something that would help your movement?

    You might not find yourself any closer to actual socialism or communism than when you had started out. You might even find that your party or Western working class itself had completely unraveled. Would you think that you had succeeded? Or that you'd wasted your energy?

    Also, if it were just a government crackdown Gramsci was looking for, he would have thrown in with Mussolini, which he didn't do. What he was looking for must have been more than that or different.

  • Michelle Obama Vows To 'Take A Break' From French Fries

    07/18/2014 10:56:51 AM PDT · 29 of 37
    x to Fear The People

    Is it really a decline from Hillary Clinton to Michelle Obama? For that matter, was Jackie Kennedy all that great?

  • Megyn Kelly Gets Her History Wrong

    07/18/2014 10:53:52 AM PDT · 45 of 49
    x to 7thson
    True, the plane wasn't accidentally shot down, but it's still a little murky who knew what and when. The pilot knew it was a Boeing 747, but claimed it didn't matter as it could well have been re-purposed for military use. He also claimed that he didn't tell ground control that it was a 747.

    Megyn should have known more about the real story, but you can certainly find the idea that the Soviets "accidentally" shot down the plane on the Internet, on the theory (I suppose) that if the Soviets had known it wasn't a spy flight they wouldn't have acted as they did. I don't buy that idea, but don't see much to be gained by getting on Megyn's case.

    FWIW, Wikipedia says that Richard Nixon was booked for the flight, but decided not to go.

  • An Enormous Crater Randomly Appeared in Remote Siberia and the World Is Freaking Out

    07/17/2014 3:59:40 PM PDT · 46 of 78
    x to nickcarraway
    Promotion for the new season of NBC's fake reality mockumentary, Siberia?
  • TCB 05: Why do media want Russia, Vladimir Putin behind missile strike on Malaysian airliner?

    07/17/2014 3:48:11 PM PDT · 48 of 67
    x to Conservative Beacon
    Sometimes it's not even clear that a plane was intentionally downed by anyone. And sometimes as in this case, there are several different possible culprits. In the 1980s, for example, you'd have to establish if Assad or Qaddafi or one of several Palestinian factions or German or Japanese terrorists were responsible.

    Wouldn’t you say that in most terrorist attacks in the last 20 years there’s pretty clear evidence as to who’s behind them? The media are never so quick to assign blame in those instances. In fact, they devote time and space to attempting to explain how it’s NOT Islamic terrorists.

    That's a hypothesis that feels right. I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. My hunch is that a lot of people in the media want to blame White guys first. You saw that with some of the buzz about the Boston Marathon bombing. But proving that hypothesis to be true is something else. The people doing most of the speculating aren't necessarily the establishment media, but fringe bloggers. And the time line in each case can be hard to re-establish.