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  • 400 Subway franchisees do not want $5 footlong deal to return, citing it hurts business

    12/14/2017 5:22:29 PM PST · 8 of 56
    x to upchuck

    Civil War!

  • Drive-Bys Claim Donald Trump, Jr. Cursed Out His Pre-School Teacher When He Was 3 Years Old

    12/14/2017 5:20:02 PM PST · 35 of 58
    x to LukeL
    1. Preschool up until 10 or so years ago meant those who were 4-5.

    Go back far enough and they called it Nursery School.

    I don't know if that applied in New York in the early 80s.

    The interesting thing is that she didn't tweet about any kind of conference or intervention.

    A kid insults a teacher like that and the parents weren't called in?

    The only result was that the woman left teaching at the end of the year and then told her friend about it some time later?

    Not very likely.

    I guess the underlying assumption is that Donald Jr. learned that way of talking from Donald Sr., but how much time would his father have been around?

    Most of the time Junior would have been with his mother and servants who most likely didn't have great command of English.

  • Doctors find second tumor in Sen. John McCain’s brain

    12/14/2017 5:07:47 PM PST · 70 of 220
    x to Popman
    The fact that McCain has not resigned and retired months ago speaks volumes about his character...

    It says he's a politician.

    People who are determined and relentless enough to attain power don't like to give it up.

    That's normal for them.

  • Drive-Bys Claim Donald Trump, Jr. Cursed Out His Pre-School Teacher When He Was 3 Years Old

  • Is Fascism Right Or Left?

    12/14/2017 4:20:27 PM PST · 50 of 58
    x to drpix
    The center -- what we'd call today's conservatives and liberals -- was weak and shattered. In many countries the conflict was between the Communist left and fascist right. Those were the two sides fighting it out in the streets.

    If you want to plot the factions of the thirties out on today's political spectrum, fine. It's an academic feel-good activity that doesn't have much to do with what was going on back then.

    I'm not saying that fascism or Nazism is definitely right-wing. I'm trying to say that the political spectrum changes over time and the idea that the bad guys are always on one side is more a wish than a reality.

  • What if America Won a War and No One Cared?

    12/14/2017 4:00:56 PM PST · 14 of 27
    x to Oshkalaboomboom
    We’re also understandably wary of “mission accomplished” moments. Jihadists, including ISIS jihadists, are still out there seeking to kill Americans. And we shouldn’t minimize that reality in acknowledging the momentous accomplishment of the Caliphate’s defeat.

    ISIS is still around. So is al Qaeda

  • Is Fascism Right Or Left?

    12/14/2017 3:55:44 PM PST · 48 of 58
    x to drpix
    Without control is there really ownership? And is there really any capitalism when the state controls everything it does not own?

    Many Italian property owners and businessmen would have said yes to both questions.

    State control didn't reach down to the level of everyday business decisions. If you supported the party, they weren't going to get in your way.

    The traditional European right wasn't as in love with business or free enterprise as many American conservatives are today.

  • Democrats should go after Ted Cruz.

    12/14/2017 3:49:45 PM PST · 118 of 133
    x to carriage_hill
    "Go after"?

    Because Ted is just so irresistable?

  • Is Fascism Right Or Left?

    12/14/2017 3:23:38 PM PST · 45 of 58
    x to Oldpuppymax
    Both. The right-left spectrum isn't something eternally fixed and unchanging. What was right and left in 1800 or 1900 differs from what is right and left today. Right and left didn't always mean just exactly what people today would like them to mean.

    The left -- Robespierre, Marx, Lenin -- wasn't always pacifistic, tolerant, non-hierarchical and humane. The right -- Bismarck, Hindenburg, Ludendorff -- wasn't always free market and individualistic.

    The left of a century or two ago could be very bloodthirsty and intolerant. The European right of past centuries could be statist, hierarchical, and controlling.

    Mussolini came out of the socialist movement. There was much about him that was left. But he organized his fascist movement specifically to combat socialism and Communism and allied himself with property owners, so the movement had a serious right-wing component.

    Today's liberals and conservatives correspond to the liberal/conservative center of a century ago which was very weak in some countries and viewed with contempt by many in the Interwar period.

  • Rose, Lauer, Smiley, Spurlock... Who Is Next?

    12/14/2017 3:13:58 PM PST · 16 of 24
    x to PJ-Comix
    I wish it were Brian Stelter, but I don't think Baby Man has been around long enough.

    Maybe Chris Cuomo or somebody from Morning Joe is more likely.

    Judy Woodruff? That would really be a hoot. But her husband Al Hunt is probably a more likely perv. He is so old, though, that most likely he won't remember anything.

  • Three Quick Lessons from the ‘Borking’ of Judge Roy Moore

    12/14/2017 3:00:52 PM PST · 83 of 84
    x to DiogenesLamp
    As with other topics, you obviously aren't going to be convinced by anything anybody else says. Moore was vulnerable because he had been dating teenagers when he was in his thirties. Not every politician has that vulnerability.

    This is like saying that before a car was smashed by a Semi, it had dents in it. I'm pretty sure that the Semi collision was a bigger factor in devaluation than was the original dents.

    Try this: "That is like saying that before a car was smashed by a Semi, it had defective brakes. I'm pretty sure that the Semi collision was a bigger factor in devaluation than was the original problem with the brakes."

    This causation thing is getting boring. The way the Titanic was built -- the design or architecture -- contributed to the sinking of the ship. Sure, it was an iceberg that sank the ship, but you can't dismiss all other contributing factors.

    Elections are decided by a variety of factors. All of a candidate's weaknesses combine to contribute to his or her defeat. You can't say that potential weakness with one group or another is just a surface or cosmetic defect. Such weaknesses are indeed flaws and they can help sink a candidate.

    I have heard nothing of this, and I have been swimming in Moore stories for weeks. From whence did you get this?

    Search engines are your friend.

    On the relative scale between him and Doug Jones, I would have to predict Moore would be more likely to assist in the draining.

    Maybe, but you sound like you expect real change from Moore. I look at him and see the kind of old school Southern Democrat who helped create the swamp, not any sort of reformer.

    But nothing anybody says is going to convince you.

  • NY Times: Trump's Lies vs. Obama's (the Wee Wee only told 18 whoppers in 8 years alert)

    12/14/2017 2:44:10 PM PST · 9 of 17
    x to Zakeet
    Now we have twitter. People respond to things before it's been clarified just exactly what happened. They tweet about what they think was happening at the time. That accounts for some of these accusations. Differences of opinion account for others.

    Also, most politicians do their lying during the election campaigns, so the comparison of Trump's tweets (many) with Obama's remarks while in office doesn't give the most accurate picture of Obama's credibility or lack of.

    Howie Carr is on now asking people for examples of more Obama lies.

  • Three Quick Lessons from the ‘Borking’ of Judge Roy Moore

    12/14/2017 2:31:45 PM PST · 81 of 84
    x to DiogenesLamp
    You are trying to sell this mantra that he was a "flawed candidate", instead of acknowledging the clear truth that he was a candidate fatally wounded by the actions of Democrat operatives and Republican backstabbers. What man could survive a knife in the front from Democrats, and another knife in the Back from establishment and Republican party office holders?

    Being vulnerable to scandal charges is a flaw. Not being able to shake the charges is another flaw. Hundreds of people run for office in every cycle, but Moore was one of the few who got hit with charges like this and couldn't just dismiss or disprove them.

    He was certainly a "flawed candidate" once the knifes went in, but not so much prior to that!

    From what I can see, Moore was trying to run as an old-fashioned Southern rural politician. Today, that means his margin for error was less than somebody who ran with a different strategy. He was "flawed" in comparison to somebody who took a different route.

    He was already weak with urban/suburban voters and when enough rural voters stayed home, he lost. So he was flawed or potentially flawed, though the weakness wasn't fatal in the beginning.

    But this justifies portraying him as a child molester and rapist? This justifies treating him as if the charges were actually true rather than accusations?

    Politicians run away from people who get hit with charges like this. Look at what happened with Trump during the 2016 campaign.

    I have said and others have said that the more likely probability is they regarded him as a threat to "business as usual" in Crony ran Washington DC. He would have made a stink every time they tried to do something he considered wrong, dubious and unethical. He would have been a Canary in the Stinking pit that is the Washington DC money mine.

    That's your opinion. Unfortunately, it's not always the case that politicians who are moral crusaders in one area are above reproach in others. Moore was already in trouble for denying that he was drawing a salary from a foundation that was paying him money (flawed candidate), so he may not have been the guy to drain the swamp.

  • A ConservaTeen Thought of Alabama - warning, might be troublesome...

    12/13/2017 5:45:52 PM PST · 37 of 176
    x to sam_whiskey
    ConservaTeen-I have a question that I would like some insight on from someone your age. Why is this issue (gay rights) so vital to young people when there are so many more pressing issues that face the country and impact our daily life, no matter what your sexual orientation is?

    Is it though? Too much talk about gays turns off younger voters, but I don't think they're voting on that basis. Too much talk about marijuana has the same effect.

    Too much public moralism about private life, too much talk about how everything went wrong in the 1960s, ditto. If that was before you (or your parents) were born, you tune out talk like that.

  • Three Quick Lessons from the ‘Borking’ of Judge Roy Moore

    12/13/2017 5:33:19 PM PST · 65 of 84
    x to DiogenesLamp
    Nobody implied that they were.

    You say that so confidently. Follow the thread for Pete's sake. Here's what I was responding to:

    Establishment Republicans stayed home or wrote-in the name of other candidate.

    If the Republican Establishment is thousands of people in just one state, it doesn't make sense to talk of a Republican Establishment. It wasn't moneybags and lobbyists who didn't come out to vote for Moore. It was ordinary Republican voters -- at least enough of them to make a difference.

    Attacking him as a reprobate goes way beyond acknowledging that someone is in opposition to your policy positions. They don't even hit Democrats that hard. They were out for blood with Roy Moore. He was more than just someone with whom they disagreed on policy positions, they treated him like a serious threat.

    If it was just about a policy dispute, they would have given him support. They thought he was unstable and they were scared that they'd spend years hearing about things he did and said. They didn't want to be saddled with these charges for year after year.

    Seriously, I am at a loss as to how people can say "flawed candidate" instead of "Accusations of child molestation and rape."

    Flaw number one was that he couldn't shake the accusation. Once voters saw that maybe they detected other flaws.

  • PBS Suspends ‘Tavis Smiley’ Following Sexual Misconduct Investigation (EXCLUSIVE)

    12/13/2017 5:21:03 PM PST · 49 of 66
    x to bkopto
    Smiley now joins Keillor and Rose.



    I figured his book was about politics.

    Now I'm not so sure.

  • Moore Lemonade

    12/13/2017 5:17:36 PM PST · 22 of 39
    x to davandbar
    He has to prove that they knew the story was wrong and that they acted with actual malice or reckless disregard for the truth.

    That's hard to prove.

    The people who broke the story could say that they just related what the accusers told them.

    The others in the media who repeated the story can say that they just relied on what those who broke the story already wrote.

  • Rep. Peter King: Bannon Looks Like A ‘Disheveled Drunk’

    12/13/2017 5:13:10 PM PST · 55 of 75
    x to GraceG
    King’s wing of the party was the morons that spent millions of dollars to try to get their “strange” toadie into the office in Alabama instead of Mo Brooks or Roy Moore.

    Strange was already appointed to the seat and the president supported him.

    Maybe somebody in the White House knew that Moore had problems as a candidate.

  • Three Quick Lessons from the ‘Borking’ of Judge Roy Moore

    12/13/2017 4:58:02 PM PST · 46 of 84
    x to DiogenesLamp
    First, the voters that Moore lost weren't "Establishment Republicans."

    They weren't sitting in boardrooms with Rockefellers or vacationing in Maine with the Bushes or reorganizing corporations with Romney.

    Moore lost enough votes from ordinary Alabama Republicans to lose the election.

    Second, the Alabama GOP stood by Moore, so far as I can see, though Washington Republicans didn't.

    And Moore was running as an anti-Establishment maverick: it was to be expected that he'd alienate the party Establishment in Washington.

    If he hadn't been a #flawedcandidate, he would have won and maybe picked up votes by campaigning against the Washington Establishment and the DC Swamp.

    Moore was not a "flawed candidate". He was a perfectly good candidate that was torpedoed from both sides of the Uniparty running Washington.

    Voters in his state didn't think so.

  • Rep. Peter King: Bannon Looks Like A ‘Disheveled Drunk’

    12/13/2017 4:39:39 PM PST · 44 of 75
    x to DiogenesLamp
    You think Bannon is responsible for this? What did Bannon do to cause this loss?

    No, but it's not exactly a resume enhancer.

    Operatives can only afford to be tied to so many losing candidates.

    Bob Beckel wasn't responsible for Mondale's losing the election, but he still came away a loser.

    Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace didn't cause McCain's loss, but their careers haven't been the same since.

    Maybe there's room for Bannon at MSNBC.