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I think Boehner is against having a select committee like Watergate and 9/11 looking into Obama/Hillary! shenanigans.

He is not stopping the five separate committees already scheduling hearings.. but I wonder if that is what he wants because he'd have little or no control over a select committee. IOW I still wonder, "What do they have on Boehner?" Those damn FBI files from the Clinton White House basement again.

Walking out of hearings..

From an Internet source:

The McClellan [1950s Senate] Committee became another national obsession, with Bobby Kennedy the star during televised hearings in which Kennedy grilled leading Mafia figures of the day, most of whom repeatedly invoked their Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. Bobby Kennedy taunted his adversaries relentlessly; during one such grilling of Chicago Mob Boss Sam Giancana, the wiseguy erupted into a nervous giggle, prompting Bobby Kennedy to taunt: "I thought only little girls giggled, Mr. Giancana!"

Giancana knew better than to walk out.

I recall that some walked out of the House on Un-American Activities committee hearings -- the likes of Harry Bridges of the Longshoremen Union and Terence Hallinan an attorney and politician from San Francisco, California.

Coping..

I remember these New Left Marxist -Alinsky campus radical spoiled brats -- they were much praised by the MSM as the most intelligent generation ever.

We tolerated them, they have recruited and infiltrated all aspects of society as planned; I honestly expected it and back then I hoped it could be avoided by a military take over (by 1970 I was hoping for that to straighten things out).

The military is going to have to take sides. We have now reached the crisis Lincoln spoke of in his house divided speech. IMO.

They may have altered history.

If it had turned out that George Bush had conspired with the conservative members of SCOTUS then what happened in 2000 would be just as bad as what Obama pulled off in 2012. A complete violation of the public trust.

From a wiki source:

"The concept of the public trust relates back to the origins of democratic government and its seminal idea that within the public lies the true power and future of a society; therefore, whatever trust the public places in its officials must be respected."

We now know why all the experts had 2012 outcome wrong.

the infiltration of of radical Islamonazis . . . I am not a conspiracy theorist. I'm not an Alex Jones groupie . . . .

There is plenty of proof that you, et al are no conspiracy nuts.

Fethullah Gülen is a U.S.-based Islamist who is helping to destroy modern Turkey's secular government and heritage.

The Islamists are doing it to us.

Fethullah Gülen's Grand Ambition. Turkey's Islamist Danger

"You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, [you] must continue like this. … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in [the republic]."

No different than our very own 1960 Marxist-Alinsky New Left campus radical, spoiled brats have done.

from Discover The Networks: "By the early 1970s, the openly defiant and revolutionary New Left had spent its political capital and was a dying movement. But its adherents remained committed to the cause, altering their tactics so as to work within the system . . . These latter-day leftists incorporated the tactics of the infamous Saul Alinsky, seeking to change society by first infiltrating its major institutions – the schools, the media, the churches, the entertainment industry, the labor unions, and the three branches of government – and then implementing policies from those positions of power. Most notably, the ex-New Leftists found a home in the Democratic Party. By 1972, they had seized control of the party . . . ."

Yeah, I know. I'm a bigot, an Islamophobe . . . .

If you are then so are millions of Turks who reject Islamism and sharia law Opinion polls that measure attitudes toward the [ruling Islamist] AKP and its conservative values suggest that 32 percent to 38 percent of Turks (upward of 25 million people) would never support the AKP or want to live in a country shaped solely by its values.

[A study found that] 'the primary cause of broad-based anger and anti-Americanism is not a clash of civilizations but the perceived effect of U.S. foreign policy in the Muslim world.' While an examination of political and economic problems that are frequently cited as major grievances not just of terrorists but also of large populations of Muslims around the world is beyond the scope of this paper, the U.S. should continue to promote effective economic and social reforms and to work with allies in crafting fair and peaceful resolutions to conflicts in the Middle East and in other parts of the Muslim world.' [In other words, Israel must be wiped off the map and the American tax payer needs to cough up billions every year.

That reminds me of why I stopped buying the Sacramento Bee after 9/11/2001. The best and brightest Bee brains opined that the attacks were our fault in part because we don't try to understand the rest of the world. The publisher was booed off the stage at a local university for condemning Bush and Ashcroft for being mean toward suspected terrorists.

IMO Abe is right,

You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

We are at that crisis.. let's get it over with. And I do not mean civil war without the leadership of the professionals. The military and LEO are going to have to choose sides. If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!

On a similar matter I posted:

This reminds me of a Clinton era shenanigan.

Unelected left-wing fanatics are obviously the ones who are after us.

Though not the same this may be germane. Roberta Achtenberg of Clinton's HUD launched investigations of citizens of Berkeley, Calif. who had opposed HUD proposals with letter-writing, pamphleteering or other forms of peaceful protest. Achtenberg ordered the protesters to turn over diaries, phone messages and other personal papers. She threatened to fine the protesters $50,000.

If memory serves a federal judge cleared the way for bureaucrats and Ms Achtenberg herself, personally, to be held accountable and open to legal action. Again if memory serves Ms Achtenberg hightailed it back to San Francisco leaving her "brilliant" federal career behind.

Court document

I did not read much of the document but I do recall reading that the decisions left bureaucrats open to be personally responsible for their actions on the job and they could be sued as individuals. I believe the higher court agrees.

My point: I have no training in law.. I do wonder however if the courts' opinion matters vis-a-vis a citizens rights against bureaucracy lies and wrong-doing (the Drake's Bay Oyster Company decision).

For example the court wrote,

"When government officials violate citizens' clearly established First Amendment rights, however, we will not apply the doctrine of qualified immunity to defeat a remedy of damages to which the citizens are entitled under Bivens."

I did not research Bivens.

.. and a FReeper replied to my comments above

"You are correct. You intended to violate the 1st Amendment you loose sovereign immunity. You are on your own dime."

Another FReeper also replied to my comments with details of Bivens

To any and all who may want to know just what a Bivens lawsuit is; here's a short Syllabus of the Bivens (Lawsuit / Action)

The reason Bivens (Lawsuit / Action) was an important decision, is before the Bivens decision, almost all federal courts would grant 12(b)6, Motion(s) to Dismiss (your case) "FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CLAIM UPON WHICH RELIEF CAN BE GRANTED." Put in layperson terms, Yes you were injured (not physically injured, but through some Constitutional depredation) but because the government official has "Qualified Immunity," there is no remedy to make you whole.

Bivens and some other (well known) lawsuits changed the "Qualified Immunity," landscape so to speak. Still a BIG HURDLE 12(b)6, Motion(s) to Dismiss to over come, i.e., make some type of mistake in your Pleadings and the judge will grant the 12(b)6, Motion(s) to Dismiss. You get just ONE BITE @ the apple, make a boo-boo, your toast, can you say Motion Granted (to dismiss).

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/403/388/case.html

U.S. Supreme Court Bivens v. Six Unknown Fed. Narcotics Agents, 403 U.S. 388 (1971)

Bivens v. Six Unknown Named Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics No. 301

Argued January 12, 1971

Decided June 21, 1971

403 U.S. 388

CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED SATES COURT OF APPEALS

FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT

Syllabus

Petitioner's complaint alleged that respondent agents of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, acting under color of federal authority, made a warrantless entry of his apartment, searched the apartment, and arrested him on narcotics charges. All of the acts were alleged to have been done without probable cause. Petitioner's suit to recover damages from the agents was dismissed by the District Court on the alternative grounds (1) that it failed to state a federal cause of action and (2) that respondents were immune from suit by virtue of their official position. The Court of Appeals affirmed on the first ground alone.

Held:

1. Petitioner's complaint states a federal cause of action under the Fourth Amendment for which damages are recoverable upon proof of injuries resulting from the federal agents' violation of that Amendment. Pp. 403 U. S. 390-397.

2. The Court does not reach the immunity question, which was not passed on by the Court of Appeals. Pp. 403 U. S. 397-398.

409 F.2d 718, reversed and remanded.

BRENNAN, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which DOUGLAS, STEWART, WHITE, and MARSHALL, JJ., joined. HARLAN, J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment, post, p. 403 U. S. 398. BURGER, C.J., post, p. 403 U. S. 411. BLACK, J., post, p. 403 U. S. 427, and BLACKMUN, J., post, p. 403 U. S. 430, filed dissenting opinions.

Page 403 U. S. 389p

RE: "I hate to say this, but I blame George Bush."

"Back room deals," by Bill O'Reilly February 2, 2002 on townhall.com says

What "Mr. Bush may have given the Democrats is an assurance that he will not embarrass their party by aggressively pursuing" Clinton's wrong-doings. In this case he was referring specifically to Clinton's Marc Rich pardon.

But I heard O'Reilly say more than once on his radio show (back then) that the Congressional Democrat leaders made it clear from the beginning: you touch Bill Clinton for any reason and you will get nothing through Congress.

The Clinton were too slick to get caught -- of course they owned the media. One wag called presidential briefings "reporter obedience training." (The Fire Hat)

I remember those years. Often Democrats in the Congress claimed that constituents complained about this or that conservative group and the "evidence" was merely passed on to the IRS for investigation.

Void the bowels of Washington.

I'm thinking of defending Nixon vis-a-vis the articles of impeachment and other charges.

As for the EPA I sure oppose what it has become. Back then -- though I do not remember the opposition arguments against a federal EPA -- I do remember the 1950s and 1960s in southwestern Ohio. There were days when the particulate pollution was so bad I sometimes jokingly chewed the air.

EPA has become an existential threat to our Republic and must be destroyed through legal means.

In those days was the civil rights movement. Those of us supporting it (the overwhelming majority) did not see the ERA as quotas. We did not see how it would be part of what has divided us even more than it was.

Moving on to anyone who might be opposed to Nixon and Red China.. we wanted to keep the U.S.S.R. and the PRC apart -- that was a Cold War issue of utmost importance -- even as both the U.S.S.R. and the PRC backed the North Vietnamese Communists' war of liberation in the South.

Imagine that it is the 2050s or 2060s and you're reading about Obama as described by the universities and MSM who love him. Everything he did was great. Except for racist conservatives no one opposed him. His reform of health care failed due to extremist sabotage -- what a shame because millions died because they had no health care. . . .

It's 2013 and you're reading about Nixon as described by the universities and MSM who hate him.

What did Nixon do that JFK and LBJ not do? In fact:"[T]he records show that [Democrat hero] Franklin Delano Roosevelt may have set the stage for the use of the tax agency for political purposes by most subsequent Presidents," writes former New York Times reporter David Burnham, author of "A Law Unto Itself: Power, Politics, and the IRS."

The Articles of Impeachment charged that Nixon "acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavoured [to use] . . ." Why endeavored? Why not simply used? I personally believe that the IRS refused to do what Nixon wanted. The evidence against Nixon is mostly that he talked about doing it. Those damn tapes again.

Hell Nixon couldn't even get his DoJ to do what he wanted:October 20, 1973: Nixon fires Watergate prosecutor Archibald Cox in what becomes known as "The Saturday Night Massacre." The attorney general resigns and Congress files 21 resolutions calling for Nixon's impeachment. PBS source.

Can you imagine the Obama-Holder Department of Just Us and Our People refusing to follow orders from The One?

RE: fired his call screener?

No. He was complaining about technical problems.

He gets back into issues after a few comments about tipping.

And more about the race-baiting Obama is doing and

he had a lot of good to say about the candidate for lt. gov. of Virgina, E. W. Jackson, a Marine Corps veteran and Harvard Law School graduate here

Oh great with everything going on Savage wants to do Dear Abbott or something and Levin starts the week with an encore.

I've been following news closely since the days of radio and especially since the summer of 1950. Nothing has matched what is going on today in numbers and existential threats.. except W.W.II; and I recall a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff saying that the threat today is greater than W.W.II.

For many in Savage's audience he is the only break from the MSM b.s.

Morehouse College speech is just another part of Obama's developing MAD policy.. Mutual Assured Destruction.

It's what he feeeeeeeeeeeels is protection against impeachment.. "You come after me and I'll turn my people loose against you."

“President? Who me? Nobody told me.”

Department of Justice. . .
State Department. . .
Internal Revenue Service. . .
Department of Health and Human Services. . .
Department of the Treasury. . .
Federal Bureau of Investigation. . .
Department of the Interior. . .
Department of Homeland Security. . .
Environmental Protection Agency. . . .

It takes more than Obama appointees to pull off the harassment, intimidation, and suppression of citizens. It takes scores of GS and SES government employees.. this appeared in the International Herald Tribune letters to the editor:

15 July 2008: "Most lib. cannot take a joke. They are too arrogant. B.O is alway talking down to his audience, with his chin pushed up and out. I coined the phrase 'Barakracy'. IF B.O. ever made it to the White House, I fear bureaucracy might become Barakracy. Those love to pay more taxes would be rejoicing. Posted by: T Chen - 15 July 2008 5:14 am" [My emphasis]

Barakracy

The Obama Administration uses GS and SES government employees to harass, intimidate and suppress citizens.. this appeared in the International Herald Tribune letters to the editor:

15 July 2008: "Most lib. cannot take a joke. They are too arrogant. B.O is alway talking down to his audience, with his chin pushed up and out. I coined the phrase 'Barakracy'. IF B.O. ever made it to the White House, I fear bureaucracy might become Barakracy. Those love to pay more taxes would be rejoicing. Posted by: T Chen - 15 July 2008 5:14 am" [My emphasis]

I remember Nixon-era dirty tricks. IIRC none went anywhere near violating the public trust as Obama has gone; it cannot be tolerated lest politics give way to revolutions as power emerge and fade.

In Politics, Scamps, Saboteurs and the Occasional Criminal

"Of course, the nature and seriousness of political mischief runs a wide gamut and elicits varied interpretations. Lines are blurred, breached. One man (say, Nixon) might see a clever campaign tactic, while someone else (say, an opponent) might see a 'dirty trick,' while someone else still (say, a Watergate prosecutor) might see criminality."

Donald Segretti was recruited to be Nixon's Tuck. Years later it would be noted that Lee Atwater's "place [is] secure in the annals of conservative shenanigans."

If it had turned out that George Bush had conspired with the conservative members of SCOTUS then what happened in 2000 would be just as bad as what Obama pulled off in 2012. A complete violation of the public trust.

From a wiki source:

"The concept of the public trust relates back to the origins of democratic government and its seminal idea that within the public lies the true power and future of a society; therefore, whatever trust the public places in its officials must be respected."

We now know why all the experts had 2012 outcome wrong.

Elderly 'Teabaggers' Not Dying 'Fast Enough'

"Hey! That's my line." Richard Lamm, Democrat and former governor of Colorado.

March 29, 1984, Elderly people who are terminally ill have a "duty to die and get out of the way"

He didn't know that there would be Tea Parties so he didn't make an exception for them.. they would not have to have terminal illnesses.

RE: shear incompetence?

What happened to the Arsenal of Demcracy? What happened to our defense and the defense of our allies.

With the current administration it is the "Arse 'n All of Democracy"

The government employees did it on their own.. finally!

Washington admits that Barakracy is real, it was predicted years ago.

15 July 2008: "Most lib. cannot take a joke. They are too arrogant. B.O is alway talking down to his audience, with his chin pushed up and out. I coined the phrase 'Barakracy'. IF B.O. ever made it to the White House, I fear bureaucracy might become Barakracy . Those love to pay more taxes would be rejoicing. [70] Posted by: T Chen — 15 July 2008 5:14 am"

[It's known] full well the role that racism play[s] . . . Every one of you has a grandma or an uncle or a parent whose told you at some point in life as an African American you have to work twice as hard as anyone else if you want to get by.

Whereas whites didn't have to do it. It's done for us whites.

Hmmm, readying his defense against any thought of impeachment? This is the beginning of the warning about the consequences of his downfall? The nuclear defense of a race war. A MAD policy.. mutual assured destruction.

In 1971, weary of improper pressure, Commissioner Randolph Thrower asked for a meeting with the president to advise him that "the introduction of political influence into the IRS would be very damaging to him and his administration, as well as to the revenue system and the general public interest." Nixon refused to see him.

That comports well with the articles of impeachment which said that Nixon endeavored to use the IRS. News articles reported that Nixon talked about using the IRS. Those damn tapes again.

In the old days it was what they did.. dirty tricks;

but they knew that there was a limit. We disputed what that limit was but IIRC no one went anywhere near violating the public trust as Obama has gone. (With the possible exception of LBJ but that was just plain corruption and crime.)

In Politics, Scamps, Saboteurs and the Occasional Criminal

"Of course, the nature and seriousness of political mischief runs a wide gamut and elicits varied interpretations. Lines are blurred, breached. One man (say, Nixon) might see a clever campaign tactic, while someone else (say, an opponent) might see a 'dirty trick,' while someone else still (say, a Watergate prosecutor) might see criminality."

Read about the Democrat who inspired Nixon's "dirty tricks." The Nytimese do not reveal that bit of information in their article but it was widely reported back then. Nixon wanted a dirty trickster like the Democrats' Dick Tuck.

Donald Segretti was recruited to be Nixon's Tuck. Years later it would be noted that Lee Atwater's "place [is] secure in the annals of conservative shenanigans."

Herein lies Obama's greatest gift – overzealous detractors with a tin ear for the public mood. In the hearings that have taken place so far Republicans have overplayed their hand: skipping from presumption to assumption to accusation unencumbered by facts, logic or proportion. Each time the potential for building public and political support on the matter concerned arises, they squander it for partisan gain. The only luck Obama seems to have had in recent weeks is in his opponents.

What would the guy who typed in his feelings about his bro' have said back in 1973:

Herein lies Nixon haters' greatest gift – overzealous and very effective suppression of the defenders of Nixon commonly called the silenced majority. In the hearings that have taken place so far Nixon haters have played their hand well: skipping from presumption to assumption to accusation unencumbered by facts, logic or proportion -- backed by the frenzy in the MSM to be the first to destroy Nixon -- has proven very effective. Each time the potential for building public and political support on the matter concerned arises, the Nixon supporters are smashed for making it a partisan effort for gain. The only luck Nixon seems to have had in recent weeks is that this is a democratic republic and he will not be literally destroyed.

It is clear now that by "choose appropriately", [Ms Ingram] meant to harass the limited-government groups endlessly and let liberal and Islamic groups sail right through the approval process.

If it had turned out that George Bush had conspired with the conservative members of SCOTUS -- and there was no hint of politics in the Flordia supreme court (highly unlikely IMO) -- then what happened in 2000 would be just as bad as what Obama pulled off in 2012. A complete violation of the public trust.

The concept of the public trust relates back to the origins of democratic government and its seminal idea that within the public lies the true power and future of a society; therefore, whatever trust the public places in its officials must be respected. Even wiki graffiti agrees that public trust does not mean any damn thing that Obama mmmm mmmm mmm wants.

Or as it was written 40 years ago:

In all of this, Richard M. Nixon has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore Richard M. Nixon, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.

Democrats framed the sleazy move as the work of junior staffers.

I liked it better in the old days. It was what they did.. dirty tricks;

but they knew that there was a limit. We disputed what that limit was but IIRC no one went anywhere near violating the public trust as Obama has gone. (With the possible exception of LBJ but that was just plain corruption and crime.)

In Politics, Scamps, Saboteurs and the Occasional Criminal

"Of course, the nature and seriousness of political mischief runs a wide gamut and elicits varied interpretations. Lines are blurred, breached. One man (say, Nixon) might see a clever campaign tactic, while someone else (say, an opponent) might see a 'dirty trick,' while someone else still (say, a Watergate prosecutor) might see criminality."

Read about the Democrat who inspired Nixon's "dirty tricks." The Nytimese do not reveal that bit of information in their article but it was widely reported back then. Nixon wanted a dirty trickster like the Democrats' Dick Tuck.

Donald Segretti was recruited to be Nixon's Tuck. Years later it would be noted that Lee Atwater's "place [is] secure in the annals of conservative shenanigans."

(Seems that everyone is comparing Nixon to today. Here's another one though there are none in the posted article.)

It’s starting. Deploying the nuclear defense against impeachment.. the specter of a race war. “Take ten!” as the 1960s black power racists used to shout.

Make no mistake - Obama is the person responsible for the IRS lawbreaking, not some low-level rogue bureaucrats. Please don’t tell me that there is no evidence that Obama personally ordered the IRS to harass conservative and religious groups. He didn’t have to give a direct order any more than Nixon had to give one when he got impeached for the same crime.

Playing the IRS card: Six presidents who used the IRS to bash political foes

I've often asked for 40 years, "What did Nixon do that other presidents did not also do?"

As for using the IRS.. the articles of impeachment used the word endeavored.. Nixon endeavored to use the IRS. That damn tape. Again. He talked about it but did he get the IRS to go along? If he did why didn't the articles of impeachment say Nixon used the IRS?

Even in the article I mentioned it quoted the tapes of Nixon talking about it but when it came to proving it they again use the word endeavor; to wit, Nixon "endeavoured to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, confidential information contained in income tax . . . ."

The six presidents Coolidge, FDR, Kennedy, Nixon, Clinton, and of course BUSH!

So even if Nixon ordered the IRS to deliver to him in the White House the 100-million or so punch cards containing tax information it was only information he wanted.. he did not sick the IRS on anyone.

He has no talent.. his absurdly foolish talk keeps him employed. He’s a paid ad and a minor part of the establishment and media 24/7 campaign against middle-to-conservative Americans.

RE: My opinion that “The election was a fraud committed by government employees. Treason.” of course refers to election 2012.

Krauthammer quoted in article: ". . . the IRS openly discriminated against groups on the basis of their politics, but the action was not a political action. It was instead an attempt at efficiency. You've got to be a knave or a fool to say that and you have to be an idiot to believe it."

.. and as more and more realize this is a matter of election FRAUD of the highest degree -- betrayal of the public trust TREASON in other words -- the more the Obamamedia will drag out the dull and tiresome issues about election 2000.

google search for links to articles: site:www.questia.com how-bush-won 2000 florida

google search: "How Bush Won" a discussion of the court decisions

google search: Bush Won election 2000 los angeles times

just a few suggestions to find election 2000 information.

One selected article included here. This one: Ask FactCheck - The Florida Recount of 2000

According to a massive months-long study commissioned by eight news organizations in 2001, George W. Bush probably still would have won even if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a limited statewide recount to go forward as ordered by Florida’s highest court.

Bush also probably would have won had the state conducted the limited recount of only four heavily Democratic counties that Al Gore asked for, the study found.

On the other hand, the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide. However, Gore never asked for such a recount. The Florida Supreme Court ordered only a recount of so-called "undervotes," about 62,000 ballots where voting machines didn’t detect any vote for a presidential candidate.

None of these findings are certain. County officials were unable to deliver as many as 2,200 problem ballots to the investigators that news organizations hired to conduct the recount. There were also small but measurable differences in the way that the "neutral" investigators counted certain types of ballots, an indication that different counters might have come up with slightly different numbers. So it is possible that either candidate might have emerged the winner of an official recount, and nobody can say with exact certainty what the "true" Florida vote really was.

The study cost nearly $1 million and was the most thorough and comprehensive news-media review of the Florida balloting. It was sponsored by the Associated Press, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, CNN, St. Petersburg Times, Palm Beach Post, Washington Post and the Tribune Co., which owns papers including the Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, Orlando Sentinel and Baltimore Sun. The news organizations hired the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago . . . .

Likewise it is not easy to prove that had the right not been hampered by OUR OWN GOVERNMENT! that all those who predicted an Obama defeat were in fact correct. The election was a fraud committed by government employees. Treason.

See also: "Explicit statistical evidence of massive ballot tampering in Palm Beach, Fl" in FR.

From a wiki graffiti source with my addition: "Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) was a student activist movement in the United States that was one of the main representations of the New Left . . . SDS has been an important influence on student organizing . . . and its organizational structure [and tactics] are all present in varying degrees in [both the Clinton and the Obama administrations] . . . SDS leaders went on to careers as Democratic Party politicians. . . ."

and from Discover The Networks: "By the early 1970s, the openly defiant and revolutionary New Left had spent its political capital and was a dying movement. But its adherents remained committed to the cause, altering their tactics so as to work within the system . . . These latter-day leftists incorporated the tactics of the infamous Saul Alinsky, seeking to change society by first infiltrating its major institutions – the schools, the media, the churches, the entertainment industry, the labor unions, and the three branches of government – and then implementing policies from those positions of power. Most notably, the ex-New Leftists found a home in the Democratic Party. By 1972, they had seized control of the party . . . ."

I remember.

These 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats were celebrated in the establishment MSM as the most intelligent generation ever! They are now arguably that very establishment that praised them and they hold themselves and their ideological issue in even higher regard.

This ain't about dirty tricks.. it's about whose America survives. This ain't Dick Tuck a political prankster for the Democratic Party from the Kennedy days.

And here they are with their most important issue:

Someone tell President Clinton’s Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders they are here! Finally they are here! Safe bullets — these will be made of chocolate. Vice President Biden promises to lead the development effort to mandate their use by all including our armed forces!

Void the bowels of Washington, D.C.

I think the C means crap or crud.

What's he playing the Islamist music for?

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My tag line: If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!

The military will have to choose sides. No way do I advocate amateurs doing anything without following the professionals. Military and LEO.

This is not 1860.

The IRS targeting of Tea Party and conservative groups not only advantaged supporters of Obama, it kept out of the public domain a very potent issue which would have driven a massive anti-Obama turnout among Tea Party and conservative voters generally unenthused about Mitt Romney.

It did not have to make 'em into a massive anti-Obama effort. It's bad enough if the targeting had simply disadvantaged Obama opponents -- targeting done by people in power violating the public trust; to wit, it appears that the dirty work was done by agencies under the control of the Obama administration. . . The election of 2012 was tainted by All the President’s Concealers.

This is emerging IMO as nothing less than a coup d'état attempt. Especially if Obama Administration personnel are involved.

This is extremely serious and treason with the maximum penalty upon conviction called for. IMO.

Could this election interference ("election-year struggle" that we all now know about!) and all that it encompasses explain why so many were wrong about the outcome of the election?

Could this be the crisis Abe talked about that now has been reached between statist America and free America? The statists with massive abuse of trust stole the election.

. . . You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

What was that scandal of MSM employees working together? Journal list? Or something like that. MSM, et al. working with an Administration. . .

The history books should record Obama's re-election with an asterisk to indicate that it was achieved with the help of illicit means. . . . the left's hateful and slanderous campaign against its political foes, especially the Tea Party--the demagoguery of Obama, his fellow Democrats and their supporters in the media, led by the New York Times editorial page--was sufficient to prompt the IRS agents to cast aside their professional obligations and embark on a campaign of political abuse whose effect was to ease Obama's re-election.

This is emerging IMO as nothing less than a coup d'état attempt. Especially if Obama Administration personnel are involved.

This is extremely serious and treason with the maximum penalty upon conviction is called for. IMO.

Could this election interference ("election-year struggle" that we all now know about!) and all that it encompasses explain why so many were wrong about the outcome of the election?

Could this be the crisis Abe talked about that now has been reached between statist America and free America? The statists with massive abuse of trust stole the election.

. . . You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

Could this be the crisis Abe talked about that now has been reached between statist America and free America? The statists with massive abuse of trust stole the election.

. . . You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

Could this election interference ("election-year struggle" that we all now know about!) and all that it encompasses explain why so many were wrong about the outcome of the election?

The Internal Revenue Service is caught in an election-year struggle between Democratic lawmakers pressing for a crackdown on nonprofit political groups and conservative organizations accusing the tax agency of conducting a politically charged witch hunt.

This is emerging IMO as nothing less than a coup d'état attempt.

This is extremely serious and treason with the maximum penalties upon conviction is called for. IMO.

It was just some elderly 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats whom the MSM back then celebrated as the most intelligent generation ever! having fun.

No harm meant. They are now the establishment. They and their ideological issue sometimes over look the feelings of us lesser folks.

They and their ideological issue are among the ruling class New Normal.

Here's a little about Ms Ingram ". . . began her career with the IRS in the former Tax Litigation Division in 1982."

1982? Graduated college late 1970s? I think she has a law degree from Georgetown after that.

That puts her into this group of whom I love to post pictures. Ladies and Gentlemen, the New Normal:

the ideological parents of this guy:

Since Savage hung around long enough to give today's date and mention Ingram here's a little about her ". . . began her career with the IRS in the former Tax Litigation Division in 1982."

1982? Graduated college late 1970s? I think she has a law degree from Georgetown after that.

That puts her into this group of whom I love to post pictures:

the ideological parents of this guy:

martial law predictions -- ho hum. Elections 2000, 2008 and now 2016.

War in the Middle East. Who heard of such a thing. Golly gee.

Yeah. Colostomy bag I think.

The elite didn't want to go to the bathroom like the lower class scum or some reason like that. There was nothing wrong with them otherwise.

Savage has often mentioned the members of the elite class in England I think hundred+ years ago bypassing their bowels with some kind of operation to install a bag. That sounds similar.

As the congressional hearings on Benghazi were taking place last week, we also learned that the IRS, administered by the Department of the Treasury, has been going after conservative groups in a politicized manner that we have not seen since Richard Nixon's White House.

I'll regain some respect for Mr. Hanson if he can explain why the articles of impeachment say that Nixon endeavored to use the IRS?

Why such a fancy word?

Why not a simple declaration that Nixon used the IRS?

IOW he talked about it but either never followed up or the IRS refused to go along. The nutcase lefties and those damn tapes again.

RE: my reply #24

.. but it is fun rubbing the Obamaites' faces in Nixon's.. er, stuff.