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Pepsi - it occurs to me that if all the gun manufacturers move to one state, all the antis have to do is focus on capturing that state (like they’re doing with Texas right now) and they can put all of them out of business at one shot (so to speak).

How are the gun control people ‘capturing’ Texas?

In Louisiana this past election we passed an amendment to the state constitution that makes it exceedingly difficult for any new gun control law to pass court scrutiny.

That said, Jindal needs to fall in with Wyoming and Texas and lead the way on legislation that makes it a felony for the feds to enforce new gun decrees from Half&Half that infringe on the 2nd Amendment. Louisiana’s governor’s office is one of if not THE strongest in the country (thanks Huey!). If Jindal would lead on this it would get done without a doubt.

I’ve personally asked both my state rep and state senator to offer legislation that mirrors Wyoming’s recently passed statute.

Jindal will also push for an elimination of ALL state corporate taxes. Louisiana’s now open for business

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/10/Jindal-to-Propose-Eliminating-LA-State-Income-Corporate-Taxes

The country as it is currently constituted is done....finished.

Time to break it up and allow the American traditionalists and the American socialists along with the moochers who put them in power to go their separate ways

Any secession or rebellion requires a precipitating event.

This would be the perfect time for the red state governors and legislatures to declare their independence from the looters and moochers in Washington DC.

“Church of England Won’t Allow Female Bishops”

But they will allow queer bishops.

I told you guys Jindal has been a disappointment to many conservatives here in Louisiana. He has developed the stench of a self-aggrandizing RINO.

I campaigned for him in 2003 and in 2007. I did not in 2011.

“A house divided against itself will not stand.”

Exactly. And the nation is irretrievably divided unless our half surrenders to the socialist leviathan.

Count me and my three sons who are among the many not prepared to do that

“Wrong. The War Between the States was not fought over slavery.”

Nope. It its aggregate the value of 4 million slaves represented the largest privately held asset in the world in 1860: 4 billion dollars (2.4 TRILLION in 2010 dollars) and the southern politicians, nearly all slaveholders, knew as new states were admitted it was only a matter of time until slavery was outlawed by simple majority vote.

Secession was the only way to prevent that.

“C’mon, we fought a civil war over this.”

CW1 was fought over the worst issue any war’s ever been fought over. This secession were it to occur would be predicated on restoring the sovereign rights guaranteed by OUR CREATOR and laid out in the Constitution. It would be based on securing freedom not the right to continue enslaving people. Utterly different in every respect and really more like the Revolution than the Civil War.

“It ain’t happening. Don’t even talk about it. Don’t even think it.”

Millions upon millions of your fellow Americans are indeed talking and thinking about it.

“Is expressing the desire to secede an indication that a number of our fellow citizens want the left to understand that number of Americans can no longer live with the left?”

This hits the nail squarely on the head. The petition outburst represents millions of Americans sending a message to the socialist Democrats: we don’t want to fight you, argue with you, try to persuade you or campaign against you. We wish to be free of you and never think of you again.

As I said, no one believes the Leviathan Moocher government will say have it your way and good luck to you.

It will take a precipitating catastrophic event.
like a financial collapse as some pretty smart money guys are saying is looming over the horizon.

When the USSR collapsed in the early 90s, its vassal states inside and outside of it declared their independence and the Kremlin was powerless to prevent it.

“It’s an opening, a crack in the anti-secession cabal.”

I’m still waiting for someone, anyone, to propose a solution as to how you overcome, electorally, a majority now utterly dependent on government handouts and a political party determined to grow that majority to the greatest extent possible other than separation or surrender to it.

Seven states have exceeded the petition limits that call for an administration response. Others will join them shortly.

Of course no one believes the statists in the White House would ever say 'go ahead, see you later". It will take a cataclysmic event like a financial collapse to get the ball rolling and for legislatures of states that oppose Obama's socialistic fascism to declare their state's independence.

Bring it on.

“Question: “Does Obama Doom America?”

Probably as it exists now, yes.

He dooms all of us only if the 49% that wanted no more of him decide to surrender and welcome the boot on our necks.

“Yup, its not gonna happen.

Too bad we can’t get this many people interested in doing something real instead.”

So you assume 49% of America is going to lie down and say OK, sir, your boot on my neck is quite comfortable.

I’d love to hear those who poopoo the idea of a peaceful secession tell us exactly what course of action is available to those who love the Constitution and the small, limited federal government outlined in it.

The moochers and those who lord over them now outnumber us as was proven a little over a week ago. In 2014 and surely in 2016, those 47MM food stamp recipients will number 60MM or more, disabilty recipients will be millions more in number and the statists will still have a propagandizing media at their beckon call.

So how, sir, is this situation reversible or escapable by conventional electoral means? I’m willing to listen to any ideas.

For all you non-Louisianians, understand this. Jindal is the biggest RINO of the bunch. He’s got a gift for speaking but he’s a democrat in wolf’s clothing.

This Louisianian agrees with you. Jindal’s first loyalty is to Jindal and I campaigned for him twice, the first time when he lost to MeeMaw Blank-O and the second time when he won in 07.

Sorry I have to say it but Jindal has been a disappointment.

He ran like a conservative but has governed like a RINO.

Questions for all to ask yourselves:

1. In 2016, maybe 2014, with government dependency approaching 60% of the population or greater, the chances of restoring the country closer, even marginally, to its constitutional, limited government, individual liberty roots by popular vote will approach or equal nil. What then, sirs?

2. If, as some really smart financial people think, we suffer an economic collapse, would you support restoring the country ‘as-is’ or in a different structure?

3. Do you really feel in your heart that those who voted for Obama and support what he has done and will do over the next four years deserve to be considered your ‘countrymen’?

My answers:

1.When you boil away all the superfluous claptrap, the 48 or 49% who wanted anybody but the socialist Obama have but two choices: (1) Begin exploring every option possible to separate ourselves from him AND the people who want what he wants and put him back in office or (2) accept the boot on your neck for the rest of your lives and the lives of all those who will come after you. Socialism is not voluntary.

I suspect the American colonists faced weighing the same grave decision in the 1770s.

2. I would think an economic collapse on the scale that some imagine would be the perfect opportunity for states to declare their independence from the people who caused the debacle.

3. They are not my countrymen. They are dead to me. In fact I cast off a friend two weeks ago who defended/excused Obama’s leaving four Americans to die while watching it in real time.

Nope. It will be worse, much, much worse.

“Gallup pushing back on the threats?”

Maybe the Gallup people see the handwriting on the wall— a huge Romney win— and therefore no longer have to worry about Axelbutt and Holder coming after them.