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Posts by Stingray51

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  • Trump’s Eminent Disdain Donald is wrong about the Keystone Pipeline and property rights.

    02/11/2016 6:21:52 PM PST · 5 of 39
    Stingray51 to House Atreides

    So private agreements were negotiated. If the pipeline is built, the threat of eminent domain will face each landowner. So negotiating a better deal now makes sense. But if eminent domain did not exist, it is a lot more likely that there would be hold-outs. From the small part of it that I read, the article does not prove what it purports to.

  • After Iowa, Will Republicans Finally get a Contest Without Trump?

    02/08/2016 1:07:31 PM PST · 7 of 57
    Stingray51 to detective

    So the far and away frontrunner is suddenly going to disappear? Why?

  • Trump: Jeb Is "A Stiff Who You Wouldn't Hire In Private Enterprise"

    02/08/2016 11:39:55 AM PST · 59 of 64
    Stingray51 to midlander

    I am talking about the last debate: it is not just the MSM saying that Rubio looked terrible repeating the same line about Obama knowing exactly what he was doing three (or four?) times. I saw it myself and it was cringe-worthy. I am not sure that it would help Christie much but I could see Jeb and/or Kasich benefiting from it.

  • Trump: Jeb Is "A Stiff Who You Wouldn't Hire In Private Enterprise"

    02/08/2016 9:50:18 AM PST · 47 of 64
    Stingray51 to Bruce Campbells Chin

    I think Jeb! remains a threat. He’ll pull out all the stops in South Carolina with his brother and the whole family campaigning. This is the state that reelects Linda Graham every six years and has a dummy for a governor (following her predecessor who was a nutcase). So I think it is entirely impossible that Jeb! makes a comeback in South Carolina. (IMHO, following the implosion of Rubio, the only other viable Establishment candidate still standing is Kasich.)

  • Trump Think Conservatism Mean "Conserving Your Wealth"

    02/07/2016 1:44:35 PM PST · 4 of 85
    Stingray51 to conservativejoy

    Why don’t you quote his entire answer?

  • Where were Trump's 'Leadership Skills' in Iowa? All I Saw was a Poorly-Managed, Ego-Driven Mess

    02/04/2016 5:34:34 AM PST · 39 of 53
    Stingray51 to Byron_the_Aussie

    I agree.

  • Where were Trump's 'Leadership Skills' in Iowa? All I Saw was a Poorly-Managed, Ego-Driven Mess

    02/04/2016 3:29:41 AM PST · 19 of 53
    Stingray51 to Reaganite Republican

    This Trump-bashing is all meaningless if he wins decisively in New Hampshire next Tuesday. The ‘Trump has failed’ meme is entirely contrived as he was never expected to win in Iowa. His opponents and the media started hyping the idea that he could win Iowa a few days before the caucuses in order to make him “losing” into a big story.

  • Jeb Bush: No, I don't think Trump is Christian

    01/27/2016 5:11:33 AM PST · 17 of 76
    Stingray51 to jimbo123

    I think this is a very inappropriate comment by Jeb. The man just cannot accept that the public is not buying what he is selling.

  • Against Trump (RINOs dedicate entire magazine to Trump bashing)

    01/22/2016 6:56:10 AM PST · 19 of 158
    Stingray51 to 20yearsofinternet

    I read most of it. Very, very little of the content has anything to do with the issues (as opposed to personality and not personal political history) that have pushed Trump to the front: out of control immigration; “free” trade / absence of American manufacturing; and cross-party establishment idiocy on foreign policy (expensive no win / self-defeating interventions everywhere). They also do not address Trump’s cross-over appeal to working Democrats (hopefully there are some left!) which at least IMHO is lacking in the other candidates.

  • The Most Important Question in Natural Born Citizen Debate

    01/12/2016 7:01:56 AM PST · 37 of 102
    Stingray51 to gusty

    Thanks for the math help. The question remains not what Congress did by a statute about naturalization but what the Constitution means. For that, I would look to the decisions of the Supreme Court, which if the quotes in this thread are accurate, has described natural born citizenship only in the context of people born in the USA. We have people jumping up and down on FR claiming it is crazy / off the wall / nuts to have differing views over the meaning of this provision of the Constitution. I do not agree with that. I think we are seeing posters so motivated to support “their guy” that they are launching personal attacks on those who disagree with them, thereby acting like Democrats.

  • Where is Ted Cruz CRBA? Shows you were ZOTTED ...

    01/12/2016 6:32:10 AM PST · 36 of 175
    Stingray51 to Mechanicos

    That is an interesting interpretation. However, I think it does not make sense because if the only requirement was to be a citizen at the time of adoption, then why is the natural born requirement included at all? In other words, if all the clause does is require that the first president be a citizen at the time of the Constitution’s adoption, which appears to be how you are reading it, then why have the bit about natural born?

  • The Most Important Question in Natural Born Citizen Debate

    01/12/2016 6:24:03 AM PST · 10 of 102
    Stingray51 to doug6352

    The term “Founding Fathers” is not generally used to refer to Congress, even the Congress in 1790. It more commonly refers to the men who signed the Declaration of Independence or drafted / signed / ratified the Constitution.

  • Carly Fiorina Joins the Cruz Birther Bandwagon

    01/11/2016 4:54:45 PM PST · 16 of 128
    Stingray51 to TBBT

    I disagree. I think it is not self-evident what this provision of the Constitution means. I am no more impressed with a consensus of lawyers than I am with a consensus of scientists. My sense is that natural born means born to citizen parents in the United States. I think that all other bases for citizenship are creatures of Congress and in my mind that means they are not natural born. Disagree if you will but to declare me crazy or in bad faith is no different than Michael Mann and the global warmists trying to shut down those who disagree with them.

  • Trump: Cruz must get eligibility 'straightened out'

    01/09/2016 6:11:25 PM PST · 58 of 80
    Stingray51 to jimbo123

    Trump is trying to win. He is going throw everything but the kitchen sink at Cruz. That is how it is done. Cruz is a big boy. He can take it. If Cruz gets the nomination, the Democrats and media will surely not shy away from this issue.

    I think the big idea that Trump is planting the seeds of is the question of why, with hundreds of millions of eligible candidates born to American parents in the USA, we need to nominate a guy born to a Cuban father in Canada. Just as there must be candidates who are not named Bush or Clinton, one would think we could field a candidate born in the USA to citizen parents.

  • Favorite Songs with some Foreign Words.Tell us your Favorites.Freeper Canteen 1~8~16

    01/07/2016 6:37:53 PM PST · 195 of 346
    Stingray51 to fatima

    Lache pas la patate - Jimmy C. Newman

  • John McCain’s cold-blooded revenge on Ted Cruz

    01/07/2016 8:08:01 AM PST · 47 of 81
    Stingray51 to VinL

    I think it is better for Cruz and for conservatives to get this out of the way now, and not a few months from now. If this has no legs, it will die out over the next several weeks. Better now than a manufactured hysteria at the convention for the purpose of steering the nomination to Rubio or Romney or some such. (BTW, call me crazy, but I think Romney is itching to ride to the GOPe’s rescue.)

  • Donald Trump says Ted Cruz’s Canadian birth “could be a difficult problem” for 2016 bid

    01/07/2016 8:01:47 AM PST · 30 of 39
    Stingray51 to justlittleoleme

    This is unrelated but... if a child is born to illegal immigrants within the USA is automatically a citizen, then I have two questions: (a) what does Section 1401’s “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” mean?, and (b) why is Section 1401(b) necessary at all since it is talking about Indians, etc... born within the USA....?

  • Harris-Perry: Cops Should Back Gun Control, and Then Less Wives Would Be Killed by Husbands

    01/03/2016 8:31:36 AM PST · 31 of 49
    Stingray51 to rktman

    What do people find so difficult about the difference between “less” and “fewer”? “Less wives” sounds really ignorant, IMHO. Call me a snob, whatever, I just think it is stupid.

  • Bush: Trump would 'get crushed' by Hillary

    01/03/2016 7:37:03 AM PST · 8 of 65
    Stingray51 to jimbo123

    Newsflash to Jeb!: No Republican can win the general election without strong conservative support, which you would never have. Plus, Trump has a shot at attracting blue collar white union workers who would otherwise vote Democrat. Jeb! has no more chance of attracting crossover votes than Romney did. Sorry Jeb!, your dream will never come true.

  • Donald Trump: Congress ‘Threw In The Towel’ on Budget Deal

    12/18/2015 6:35:35 AM PST · 18 of 43
    Stingray51 to Rockitz

    The RINOs keep moving the goal posts. First, they whined that they could not do anything until the GOP controlled the Senate. Then when the Senate went Republican, they said well we cannot do anything without the WH, because Obama will shut down the government if we do not go along with him and it will get blamed on us. And you can bet that if we elect a Republican president, they’ll still refuse to fight and this time they’ll blame it on the Senate’s filibuster rules. The bottom line is that they do not want to fight, that they are not conservatives and are just as much the ‘party of government’ as the Democrats. And what is with Ryan’s beard? This is a heck of a time for him to have mid-life crisis. Is he going to get a top hat and go to war against the South or what?

  • Pentagon Officers: We Quit if Trump Wins

    12/17/2015 10:59:47 AM PST · 300 of 386
    Stingray51 to mrbinga

    Not a single officer named. Completely unverifiable.

  • Ted Cruz has a huge advantage over Donald Trump

    12/14/2015 3:08:25 PM PST · 15 of 81
    Stingray51 to 2ndDivisionVet
    Republican voters are ultimately going to nominate a legitimate, conservative Republican.

    Why "ultimately"? Does the author have reason to believe that conservatives are currently asleep?

  • Tom Ridge: Trump is an "embarrassment" to GOP, the country

    12/10/2015 5:54:19 AM PST · 48 of 103
    Stingray51 to Night Hides Not

    The same Tom Ridge who was the first Secretary of Homeland Security and who presided over the continuing mass immigration by Muslims? The same Tom Ridge who led the establishment of the TSA?

  • Some big GOP players say Trump has a Point (A lot of us support him completely)

    12/09/2015 11:46:54 AM PST · 19 of 35
    Stingray51 to ctdonath2

    I think stopping immigration on a per country basis is more practical. On the other hand, Saudi Arabia is (excluding foreign workers) 100% Muslim and Pakistan is 95-98% Muslim, so whether you want to call it excluding Muslims or excluding Pakistanis and Saudis, I am not sure there is much actual difference. It gets trickier with more mixed countries, but that would be a start. But to your point on the Constitution, as far as I am aware the US Constitution does not protect non-citizens who are residents of other countries. It really has nothing to do with them and the US has an absolute right to exclude any non-citizen (and possibly non-permanent resident, IDK) that it wants for any reason or no reason at all without violating the Constitution. I have not seen any serious argument to the contrary despite all of the handwringing. That is, no foreigner has the right to immigrate to the United States and we could, without offending the Constitution, exclude all redheads or all fat people or whomever we wanted, without any constitutional limitation.

  • Is Trump Leading a Genuine Political Movement?

    12/07/2015 4:54:38 AM PST · 21 of 53
    Stingray51 to Cringing Negativism Network
    Edwards, who now directs the Rodel Fellowship in Public Leadership program at the Aspen Institute in Washington, said that unlike the tea party movement, which roiled the electorate in the years after the passage of the Affordable Care Act, or Move On, which backs liberal causes, Trump’s followers seem to have little in the way of common, articulated goals.

    Establishment Republicans are comfortable thinking this. But it is just not true. Trump is saying at least 4 things that are very different from what Jeb and Marco are saying and/or what voters believe they would really follow through on if elected: 1) secure the border; 2) stop entering into harmful trade agreements; 3) drop the overly interventionist democracy-building foreign policy; and 4) go after terrorists without limiting ourselves by political correctness. As much as the GOPe will not admit it, these are real ideas, not just primal screams.

  • Russia jet SHOT DOWN: Turkey to face 'consequences' as Putin calls act 'stab in back'

    11/24/2015 6:20:03 AM PST · 32 of 121
    Stingray51 to WhiskeyX

    Keep in mind that Turkey does not respect Syria’s borders, as they have been supporting various groups operating there, including the Turkmen rebels dancing over the Russian’s body chanting Allah Akbar. Turkey also does not protect its own borders against all the hordes that pass through Turkey and get shunted along to Greece and on into Europe. Nor does Turkey prevent ISIS recruits from passing into and then out of Turkey on the way to Syria. So to me it rings a little hollow for Turkey to get so excited over a Russian jet passing over a tiny sliver of Turkish territory. Is Russia the only foreign air force operating over Syria that actually has the permission of the Syrian government?

  • Can governors actually block refugee resettlement?

    11/17/2015 2:56:50 PM PST · 9 of 37
    Stingray51 to SeekAndFind

    My understanding is that the federal officials have typically been very reliant upon state and local officials to do the nitty gritty detail work of resettlement, and if governors forbid state officials from cooperating in the process (as Texas has done), it makes it a lot more difficult for the Feds. Not a cure—all for sure, but a little better than nothing. Maybe someday our new Speaker will show some life and get involved.

  • Bobby Jindal demands more information on Syrian refugees placed in Louisiana

    11/15/2015 5:22:08 AM PST · 42 of 71
    Stingray51 to markomalley

    I am very unimpressed with Jindal’s response. He should be leading protests, issuing executive orders, seeking an injunction in federal court, making some real noise.... Just issuing a letter is weak.

    And where is our congressional leadership? Where is Paul Ryan in all of this?

  • OK Paul Ryan - Stop the Influx Now (Vanity)

    11/14/2015 12:57:42 PM PST · 19 of 21
    Stingray51 to ifinnegan

    What is the President’s statutory authority for admitting the Syrians and what is Paul Ryan going to do about it (rescind, non-renew...)?

  • Sheriff to Announce South Carolina Deputy Ben Fields to Be Fired: Sources

    10/28/2015 11:17:14 AM PDT · 148 of 199
    Stingray51 to DJ MacWoW

    For the record, I did go to the link and nothing I saw there changed my conclusion that the police officer used excessive force. I think a police officer, especially a strength-training / football coach, ought to be able to get a girl like that out of the classroom without the professional wrestling moves. And in my opinion that is what he should have done. It is not anti-cop, pro-BLM, anti-discipline of students or anything else other than my own conclusion upon watching the videos. Apparently, a lot of Americans and Freepers agree with me. I am just as conservative and tough on crime as anyone on this forum and I still think the force was excessive.

  • Sheriff to Announce South Carolina Deputy Ben Fields to Be Fired: Sources

    10/28/2015 10:06:14 AM PDT · 136 of 199
    Stingray51 to gogeo

    Good grief, I did not say she was a victim, justify her actions, call her an angel or do any such thing. I only said that in my opinion the officer used excessive force.

  • Sheriff to Announce South Carolina Deputy Ben Fields to Be Fired: Sources

    10/28/2015 10:02:58 AM PDT · 135 of 199
    Stingray51 to DJ MacWoW
    "The officer did no such thing but truth isn't part of the narrative."

    You are referring to me writing that: "He flipped her backwards, chair and all, onto the floor and then threw her." That is exactly what I saw, I guess you are saying that you saw something different.

  • Sheriff to Announce South Carolina Deputy Ben Fields to Be Fired: Sources

    10/28/2015 9:25:47 AM PDT · 114 of 199
    Stingray51 to The Toll

    No, I don’t think so. There are ways to punish unarmed and non-violent but disruptive and disobedient students that do not involve police officers slamming them on the floor and tossing them across the room. It’s not just a black thing.

  • Sheriff to Announce South Carolina Deputy Ben Fields to Be Fired: Sources

    10/28/2015 9:21:22 AM PDT · 109 of 199
    Stingray51 to gogeo

    Based upon watching the video, my opinion is that the officer used excessive force. He flipped her backwards, chair and all, onto the floor and then threw her. What should he have done? Well, here are some ideas: (1) two adults could easily carry her, chair and all, out of the classroom, without resorting to any violence; (2) if an officer thinks physical force will be required against an unarmed person and there is no immediate physical danger to himself or others, why not call for backup before going WWE on her? I would fire this guy in a heartbeat.

  • The Concealed-Carry Fantasy (NYT fantasy)

    10/26/2015 9:49:22 AM PDT · 6 of 23
    Stingray51 to Brad from Tennessee

    Gosh, this is such a poorly-written editorial that it is almost unreadable. Anyway, the study linked from the editorial says that there were 235,000 defensive uses of firearms in a single year. While this figure is used to contradict the NRA’s figure of 2.5 million, it is still an enormous figure! And the fact that very few of these 235,000 uses required fatally shooting the attacker is a good thing and does not support the NYT’s argument at all.

  • Trump and 9/11

    10/22/2015 6:11:34 AM PDT · 1 of 62
    1. If 9/11 had happened 8 months after Clinton or Obama had taken office, would the Wall Street Journal find it "disgusting" to assign some of the blame to the president in office at the time?

    2. While 8 months is not very long, the office of president is something you assume ready to go. I don't recall candidates ever saying 'give four years' and after the first year, I'll do a great job.' Fair or not, the buck stops with the president from day one.

    3. Most importantly, policies that Bush and his crowd supported for years before he became he president did play a large role in 9/11 being able to happen. Specifically, their cozying up to the Saudis and their disinterest in tough immigration enforcement allowed the visas for the hijackers to be issued and the visas to be overstayed. And of course JEB! was governor when Florida issued driver's licenses to a number of the attackers.

    4. Trump has said repeatedly that he is not blaming GWB for 9/11 only pointing out that JEB!'s assertion that 'my brother kept us safe' was not entirely accurate.

  • Vice President Biden to Speak at White House at 12:10 P.M. [Biden: No]

    10/21/2015 9:16:56 AM PDT · 85 of 196
    Stingray51 to Yaelle

    I say not running - I would think it would be considered inappropriate for him to use the WH has a campaign prop

  • Donald Trump on Bush 9/11 remarks: 'I'm not blaming anybody'

    10/19/2015 7:58:26 AM PDT · 71 of 80
    Stingray51 to FourtySeven

    To say that Bush kept us safe with reference only to post-9/11 is something like asking Mrs. Lincoln how the play was apart from her husband being killed. 9/11 was obviously the fault of the terrorists. But it was allowed to happen in large part because the political Establishment of the United States including Republicans and Democrats and including George W. Bush as well as Bill Clinton were not tough on any kind of illegal immigration including visa overstayers and abusers of student visas, and because both the establishment of both parties cozied up to the government of Saudi Arabia for decades. I do not agree that Bush has no responsibility for this. And I do not agree that Bush has no responsibility for what is currently going in Syria, and I say this despite Obama spending the past 7 years making things even worse. The important thing to realize is that the Bush family has never been conservative. Whether it was the father’s battles against Reagan or his purge of Reaganites after taking office, this has always been the case.

  • Donald Trump on Bush 9/11 remarks: 'I'm not blaming anybody'

    10/19/2015 7:34:09 AM PDT · 66 of 80
    Stingray51 to jimbo123

    In 1994, 7 years before 9/11, Tom Clancy’s Debt of Honor ended with a Japanese airline being intentionally flown into the Capitol.

    In 1995, the terrorist Bojinka plot was revealed, which included plans for flying an airliner into CIA headquarters.

    The whole notion that the 9/11 plot was simply inconceivable prior to 9/11 is an enormous myth. GWB had been in office only 8 months. But surely he stills some responsibility and surely it is too much to say that he “kept us safe”. I also do not think the thousands of Americans who died or lost limbs in Iraq were “kept safe” in an effort that ended up under George W. Bush with an Iranian-allied government in power in Iraq and the entire Middle East destabilized. (Which is in no way to excuse Mr. Obama for making the situation even worse.)

  • Secret Service employees leaked private info in attempt to embarrass Jason Chaffetz

    10/01/2015 7:56:17 AM PDT · 13 of 19
    Stingray51 to grania

    Note their arrogance in thinking it is self-evident that being turned down by the Secret Service is a bad thing.

  • Goodbye Little Irish Cat - Cathronia White's Unanswered Cry for Help

    09/29/2015 12:58:20 PM PDT · 17 of 32
    Stingray51 to CharlesOConnell

    When they met, she was 21 and he was a 50 year-old double divorcee. What could go wrong.

  • Trump: GOP rivals 'want to start WWIII over Syria,' should let Russia fight Islamic State

    09/27/2015 9:29:59 PM PDT · 82 of 104
    Stingray51 to hinckley buzzard
    by 2009 the Mid East was stable, relatively peaceful, and under control...

    Well, I think that is an exaggeration because Shiite control of Iraq, which was inevitable in a post-Saddam solitary Iraqi state given the Shiite majority, empowered the Iranians which threatened the Sunni Arabs states like Saudi Arabia. This caused the Arabs to tacitly support ISIS (despite saying the opposite) in order to weaken Iran and its client states (Iraq and Assad). So yes things were massively better than they were today and yes we probably could have kept a lid on it as long as we stayed there but the seeds of instability were planted on when Saddam was deposed and Shiite influence was allowed to spread west. That's my opinion at least, which does not at all excuse Obama from anything.

  • Boehner Indicates He'll Rely on Democrats to Pass CR That Funds Planned Parenthood

    09/27/2015 9:02:22 PM PDT · 76 of 125
    Stingray51 to xzins

    so the motion to vacate should be filed now

    anyone who helps the lame duck Boehner should be disqualified from the next leadership team (are you listening, McCarthy?)

  • Donald Trump Is a Yuuuuuuuge Wuss

    09/24/2015 1:14:29 PM PDT · 79 of 178
    Stingray51 to bubbacluck

    Does not the FCC regulate obscene, indecent and profane language — have they not had the responsibility of doing so for many decades? I would not expect to tune in to Fox News and hear that kind of thing.

    The most amusing part of this is Lowry’s contention that Fiorina had some kind of great victory over Trump. Many people in the media and GOPe were dying for that to happen, but that is not what I saw. Instead, I saw an aggressive, unsmiling and unappealing person hiding behind her sex. The only thing that makes Carly special and makes her apparently presidential material beyond the thousands of other ex-CEOs out there is that she is a woman. I don’t find a identity-based candidacies particularly consistent with conservatism.

  • Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim

    09/18/2015 9:10:30 AM PDT · 59 of 86
    Stingray51 to TangledUpInBlue

    I disagree with the word “declines”. Nobody asked him to correct the questioner. The headline could says “fails to” or “opts not to” or “is criticized for not” but it is at least borderline not accurate to say “declined”. This is actually good for Trump because it is such obvious p.c. nonsense. Also, that questioner’s voice sounded a little off - I wonder if he was a plant - has he been identified yet?

  • Trump is obsessed with an immigration crisis that's already over

    09/17/2015 4:54:48 PM PDT · 41 of 93
    Stingray51 to SoConPubbie

    Little Hungary managed to build a fence along its border with Serbia very rapidly, using soldiers and prisoners. Israel of course has a security fence to protect themselves from Muslim terrorists. So a fence sounds feasible to me. I just hope it is not some massive federal contractor project - instead we should deploy the Army Corps of Engineers and just build the thing working around the clock, similar to how the highway to Alaska was built during the Big One.

  • Colin Powell: Iran Deal is 'Pretty Good Deal'

    09/08/2015 12:40:14 PM PDT · 44 of 45
    Stingray51 to Enlightened1

    Wait, the same guy who went to the UN claiming that we should rely upon his opinion concerning Iraq’s WMD program (which was instrumental to Bush obtaining the necessary support for the Iraq war) is now telling us to rely upon his opinion concerning Iran’s WMD program? Sure!

  • When Donald Trump Talks Higher Taxes, Does GOP Listen?

    09/08/2015 5:56:17 AM PDT · 23 of 54
    Stingray51 to wastoute

    The GOPe fails to appreciate that attacking Trump for not being conservative enough is not going to work because the attackers themselves (or those whose bidding they are doing) have been exposed as, at best, phony, lip-service, do nothing pseudo-conservatives (Jeb!, Boehner, McConnell...). Trump is wisely maintaining good relations with the real conservatives in the race (Cruz, Carson).

  • Jeb: Trump's campaign is all about himself

    08/29/2015 5:40:18 AM PDT · 17 of 83
    Stingray51 to jimbo123

    Jeb says Trump’s Wall will cost hundreds of billions of dollars... That would still be cheap compared to even the immediate, direct costs of his brother’s trillion dollar war in Iraq, the war that Jeb is not sure how he feels about.

  • Folks, quit being stupid, Trump is NOT a Conservative!

    08/09/2015 7:12:50 PM PDT · 136 of 212
    Stingray51 to AnalogReigns

    How many times has the GOP nominated a “conservative”? Once? Nixon, Ford, Bush the Elder, Bush the Younger, Dole, McCain, Romney....? Suddenly, when Trump runs, we discover the virtues of conservatism. Just long enough to purge whomever necessary to make room for the designated decidedly non-conservative Establishment choice. There are a few obvious reasons behind the Trump surge and first among them is that rank and file conservatives do not believe that the Republican leaders already in power are actually conservative (Boehner, McConnell...). So the existing leadership class pointing out that the insurgent candidates are not conservative is hardly an argument that actual conservatives are likely to find particularly compelling. Plus, talk is cheap. Is someone more conservative because he talks about building a fence or is the true conservative the guy who will actually do it? Does anyone actually believe that a Bush (or Huckabee, Rubio, Florina, Christie...) would in fact secure the border? I know I don’t! I also think there are some fractures developing in what it means to be conservative. Most of us agree that real conservatives favor a strong national defense. But does that imply a Bush / McCain / Linda Graham interventionist “global democratic revolution” or something more restrained? Most conservatives agree with the concept of free trade but is expediting the building of auto factories just over the Mexican border really “free trade” and the conservative position or is it just shooting ourselves in the foot? My point is that there is good reason to not believe that many of the candidates will follow through on what they promise to do and that defining conservatism can be tricky.

    Also, are we looking for a president or a dad or big brother? Remember the quote attributed to Admiral King during the Big One about why he was called out of retirement to head the Navy - something like ‘when things get tough, they call for the sons of bitches....” So maybe Trump is a SOB and maybe that is what is needed. IDK. We’ll see.