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  • A Red Heifer Sacrifice Is Coming, But The Discovery Of The Ark Of The Covenant Will Be Even More Important

    05/08/2024 4:44:51 PM PDT · 4 of 131
    grumpa to Libloather

    Where do you find a red heffer sacrifice in the New Testament?

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 4 of 4

    04/26/2024 7:23:42 AM PDT · 25 of 45
    grumpa to daniel1212

    Thanks for the effort!

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 4 of 4

    04/24/2024 5:47:30 PM PDT · 1 of 45
    grumpa
    This is the fourth installment of questions that dispensationalists have a difficult time answering. I was interested to see if the dispensationalists on this board could rationally and calmly defend their position. The responses from dispensationalists are telling. The few dispensationalists who responded at all did not even attempt to answer 95% of the questions. They just hissed and spit like a cornered cat, with an outsized measure of anger, trying to blame the messenger for the message. Obfuscation is not refutation.

    Daniel Hummel, in his new book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism," makes the case that, pop-dispensationalism is still alive and well outside the seminary environment. But, in academic circles there is a noticeable trend of abandonment of dispensationalism―even at Dallas Theological Seminary, the center of the dispensational universe. There are serious problems with the dispensational model, as are being pointed out even by historic premillennialists like Hummel, not to mention every other eschatological camp. More such books are bound to follow.

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

    04/23/2024 6:09:32 PM PDT · 20 of 35
    grumpa to grumpa

    If God had meant “race” in Mt 24:34 it makes sense that He would have used the Greek word gnos rather than genea:

    https://biblehub.com/greek/1085.htm

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

    04/23/2024 6:03:46 PM PDT · 19 of 35
    grumpa to Tell It Right

    More on genea (generation)

    The KJV translates Strong’s G1074 in the following manner: generation (37x), time (2x), age (2x), nation (1x).

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

    04/23/2024 5:52:52 PM PDT · 18 of 35
    grumpa to Tell It Right

    When you see the phase “this generation,” ask yourself, the question, “which generation?” We can look the word “generation” in Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the NT, and we can see that the Greek word is “genea.” It says, “The whole multitude of men living at the same time.” Also we find in William F. Arndt and Wilber Gingrich, A Greek-English Lexicon of the NT and Other Early Christian Literature: “basically, the sum total of those born at the same time, expanded to include all those living at a given time. Contemporaries.”

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

    04/23/2024 5:46:37 PM PDT · 16 of 35
    grumpa to Tell It Right

    Re “this generation.”

    OBJECTION: In Matthew 24:34, Jesus meant “that” generation rather than “this” generation as the text reads―i.e. some future generation that will witness all the things listed in the chapter. ANSWER: A straight-forward reading of the text indicates that these prophecies would be fulfilled while some hearing Jesus’ words in the first century were still alive. No other conclusion is possible without doing violence to the text. But to confirm that it refers to the first century contemporaries of Jesus we need only to look at the other times the phrase “this generation” is used in the New Testament. It ALWAYS refers to those living in the first century. There is no serious disagreement on these other passages. Here are all the times the phrase is used outside of the Olivet Discourse. Look up these passages for yourself:

    Matthew: 11:16-24; 12:38-45; 16:4; 17:17; 23:35-36; Mark: 8:12; 8:38-9:1; 9:19, and Luke: 7:31; 9:41; 11:29-32, 49-51; 17:25; Acts: 2:40.

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

    04/23/2024 5:40:42 PM PDT · 14 of 35
    grumpa to ealgeone

    OBJECTION: If Jesus has already come, people would have seen Him. ANSWER: How do you think of the Second Coming of Jesus? As a five-foot-five Jewish man―with long hair and ancient Jewish clothing (like the paintings), literally riding on a cloud down to earth―perhaps on a white horse?

    Many Christians have misunderstood what Jesus meant by his Parousia (his “Second Coming”) because they do not know their Old Testament. He was not to come physically, but rather to “come” in the sense of judging the apostate old covenant Jewish nation—just as God came multiple times in the Old Testament to judge the Jews or their enemies. Compare the language in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24:29-31) or John’s Apocalypse (Revelation 6:12-17) to the apocalyptic language set in cosmic expressions in the Old Testament of past judgments by God. Here are just a few of them:

    Isaiah 13:10-13 (against Babylon),

    Isaiah 34:4 (against Edom),

    Ezekiel 32:7-8; Isaiah 19:1 (against Egypt),

    In these instances, nobody saw YHWH, but certainly saw the effects of his coming. Jesus came similarly―in the manner and at the time predicted in the New Testament. See the article “What Does the Bible Say about the Nature of the Second Coming”: https://prophecyquestions.com/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-nature-of-jesus-second-coming

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

    04/23/2024 5:02:17 PM PDT · 9 of 35
    grumpa to aMorePerfectUnion

    Genea is generation. Genoa is race—different word. Genea is in the text.

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

    04/23/2024 4:14:38 PM PDT · 3 of 35
    grumpa to Scrambler Bob

    Now that’s a new take on “this generation.”

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 3 of 4

    04/23/2024 4:02:15 PM PDT · 1 of 35
    grumpa
  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 1 of 4

    04/23/2024 5:44:15 AM PDT · 61 of 115
    grumpa to 21twelve

    Thanks for the comment. Appreciated.

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 2 of 4

    04/22/2024 6:39:02 PM PDT · 16 of 24
    grumpa to ealgeone

    Eagle, please excuse me, but it’s amazing the vitriol that comes from professing Christians. Seems to me that a Christian ought to be able to disagree without being disagreeable. It’s easy to make glaring statements or attacks, but a lot harder to defend your views from God’s Word. Obfuscation is not refutation. It seems that you are about defending presuppositions, rather than relying on the Bible. But if you use the Bible as your source, I’m all ears. I provided numerous Bible passages as evidence; so far you have not.

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 2 of 4

    04/22/2024 5:58:51 PM PDT · 9 of 24
    grumpa to ealgeone
    Eagle on High, you mis-interpreted and mis-represent my comment. I hold to the full preterist view, which I stated that Jesus came in finality in AD 70. The Acts 1:9-11 citation was for you or others who want a small leg to stand on, since that passage is the only clear instance in the New Testament that does not specifically or by implication limit the Parousia to the lives of those living in the first century. There are two groups who see dual Parousias: (1) partial preterists, and (2) dispensationalists who find Jesus coming at both the beginning and end of a 7-year tribulation.
  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 2 of 4

    04/22/2024 5:27:41 PM PDT · 1 of 24
    grumpa
    For more information about dispensationalism, here are two helpful books:

    1. "Dispensationalism: Today, Yesterday, and Tomorrow" by Curtis I. Crenshaw and Grover E. Dunn, III

    2. "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation" by Daniel G. Hummel and Mark A. Noll

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 1 of 4

    04/21/2024 7:32:19 PM PDT · 22 of 115
    grumpa to Mark17

    I do not teach a second second coming.

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 1 of 4

    04/21/2024 6:49:37 PM PDT · 15 of 115
    grumpa to ealgeone

    Eagle obfuscating doesn’t answer any of my questions. Tacit admittance that you can’t. Gotcha.

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 1 of 4

    04/21/2024 6:08:55 PM PDT · 8 of 115
    grumpa to aMorePerfectUnion

    I should have titled this “Questions Dispensationalists Cannot Answer”

  • Questions for Dispensationalists, Part 1 of 4

    04/21/2024 5:33:50 PM PDT · 1 of 115
    grumpa

  • WHY I BECAME A PRETERIST

    04/11/2024 4:35:37 AM PDT · 120 of 165
    grumpa to Peter ODonnell

    Peter, the preterist view i an optimistic view. We do not have to fear a coming great tribulation and destruction of the planet, etc. We gloriously share the gospel, living under Christ the King.

    10 CLUES TO UNDERSTANDING THE NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH

    The “new heaven and new earth” of the Bible is popularly thought by Christians to be a future world of perfect utopia. In the new heaven and new earth there will LITERALLY be “no more tears, pain, or death.” But watch out on this! We are given clues in the Bible that the popular view may be flawed.

    Thesis: Some uses of the nouns “earth” and “heaven” refer to realities in the cosmos (Genesis 1:1; etc.). However, the “New Heaven and New Earth” is a Hebraic metaphor for the New Covenant in Christ. It is not the same thing as heaven itself. The primary texts about this are Isaiah 65/66, Matthew 5:17-18; 2 Peter 3, and Revelation 21. Let’s take a look.

    CLUE #1: If the new earth is to be understood literally, we would logically have to understand the new heaven literally also. But, if God lives in heaven, why do we need a new heaven? Hmmm.

    CLUE #2: In Matthew 5:17-18, Jesus ties the passing of heaven and earth with the passing of the Law. So, if the Law has already passed away and we are now under Grace, we must be in the new heaven and new earth now!

    CLUE #3: In Matthew 24:34-35, Jesus puts the passing away of heaven and earth in his generation, coincident with the destruction of the temple (Matthew 24:2).

    CLUE #4: In Isaiah 65/66, we see that God’s enemies are destroyed, but regular human history continues. Houses and vineyards will be built in the new heaven and new earth. We also see that children are born in the new heaven and new earth. There is SIN in the new heaven and new earth. And, indeed, people still DIE in the new heaven and new earth (Isaiah 65:20; 66:24)! So, the new heaven and new earth is not the eternal state—heaven itself, nor can it be a utopian millennium.

    CLUE #5: In Isaiah 66:19f, we also see that regular human history continues after the “final judgment.” The survivors of Armageddon evangelize those who never heard of God. Get that? There are people on earth who never heard of God in the new heaven and new earth! This is not Utopia-ville.

    Continue here for all TEN CLUES:
    https://prophecyquestions.com/10-clues-to-understanding-the-new-heaven-and-new-earth