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  • Ukraine prime minister resigns over coalition break up

    07/24/2014 11:46:14 AM PDT · 7 of 7
    DTA to Freelance Warrior
  • Who Is Most To Blame For Climate Change?

    07/24/2014 10:18:59 AM PDT · 4 of 66
    DTA to cripplecreek

    and The Sun 44,000 year cycle

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 6:37:22 PM PDT · 67 of 72
    DTA to free_life
    >>>>>Our military people are still brave honorable patriots even with the traitor in the WH.<<<<<

    No doubt about that. The problem is that their hard work is being misused by those in power who do not give a hoot about patriotism. Then win even when America lose.

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 6:27:03 PM PDT · 66 of 72
    DTA to free_life
    >>>>>We have not invaded Ukraine<<<<<

    Staging coup is not peaceful activity. Especially when this coup brings Neo-Nazis and other assorted idiots to power who are bent to destabilize Europe.

    EU tried to warn U.S. about the consequences. In the memorable quote of Victoria Nuland :F#$# the EU.

    It shows intent to create havoc. What we are seeing now is the outcome.

    The situation is comparable with Brzezinsky's strategy of poking the bear by arming Bin Laden in Afghanistan, and as a result Eagle being caught in the very same bear trap.

    It will get ugly in Ukraine. The only good news is that Ukraine is not a nuclear power any longer.

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 6:13:14 PM PDT · 64 of 72
    DTA to free_life
    >>>>>>The fact they have different view points is fine but this flooding of threads with posts (with what I would classify as disinformation) is disruptive.<<<<<

    You have to understand that the World does not accept WH claims as a gospel any more. U.S. deceived the World so many times that even allies ask - where is the beef?

    There isn't any.

    Take for example today's editorial in French Le Figaro.

    The article is quite telling since Le Figaro is neither pro-Russian nor more anti-American than the rest of French MSM.

    Germans press is no different.

    What is seldom reported is the fact that there were several Western airliners in the vicinity just before the crash. Chances are they were carrying sigint gathering equipment as well.

    I suspect that the release of black boxes and Russian statement to the media were timed to coincide, and that EU countries got all the facts beforehand to verify from their own sources. There were also two airborne NATO AWACS at the time. Not to mention spy satellites of other countries beside Russia and the U.S.

    It is like a game of cards where all players at the table counted the cards and the U.S. is attempting to call bluff and refuses to show cards.

    Because of the rampant misuse of tust in the past (KAL 007, WMD, Assad's nerve gas attack, to name a few) American word WITHOUT proof is not taken seriously.

    Serious people are not fooled easily with "as reported on Facebook and Twitter".

    Where are the original recordings of Kiev ATC and KH17? How Kiev ATC reacted when KH17 veered off the path after Donetsk fly-by? How Kiev knew right away BUK was used? Why Kiev refused to admit that SU-25 was 3mi from KH17?

    Why the photo of BUK taken in Krasnoarmeysk (under Kiev control) is used by the U.S. as an evidence of insurgents having BUK? Why Kiev flew fighter jet on commercial aviation corridor? Why Kiev deployed BUKs and kupola radar near the crash site? Why the U.S. ignores the existence of Kiev BUKs on that fateful day?

    There are at least 20 more questions to ask, many of them Why?

    In the name of open discussion, try to answer to at least some of them.

    In my view, MH17 is Flying Maine, Flying Lusitania and may God helps us all.

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 5:35:22 PM PDT · 62 of 72
    DTA to free_life
    American Republic, not an American empire.

    All empires have unhealthy trait to expand beyond the level of sustenance and collapse suddenly. American empire shows the same syndrome. If you do not believe me, look around you.

    Barbarians are already at the gate. Far away provinces are at the stage of perpetual unrest, the enemies are circling their wagons and at home decay and decadence are rampant.

    Oh yes, and Nero is amusing himself while Rome burns.

  • British arms sales to Russia are embarrassing, hypocritical and morally repugnant

    07/23/2014 4:12:16 PM PDT · 9 of 10
    DTA to Sam Gamgee
    This is only part of the gruesome picture.

    1803-1830 - Annihilation of native population of Tasmania. In 1844, only 44 remain alive.

    Starvation of 2 million Irishmen (Potato famine). (8.1 million Irishmen alive in 1841, 5,7 million in 1861)

    1866 Oris, India - mismanagement of India caused death of 2 million. What took years in Ireland, was achieved in a year in India.

    India, 1920s - several million starved to death.

    1956-63 - British nuclear testing annihilated aboriginal population of central Australia. See the documentary Ground Zero.

    Third Reich was genocidal machine for 12 years. British empire was genocidal machine for more than 200. And still going strong.

  • Israeli ambassador: Our troops should get a Nobel Peace Prize for their 'unimaginable restraint'

    07/23/2014 1:08:44 PM PDT · 4 of 5
    DTA to SeekAndFind

    I’d rather like to see IDF getting Nobel prize for Physics for the succeful teleportation of the scum to Jannah.

  • Air Canada cancels Tel Aviv flight over safety concerns

    07/23/2014 1:03:13 PM PDT · 10 of 15
    DTA to Diogenesis
    U.S. funds Islamic terrorists for fun and prophet.

    From holding hands with the Saudi king, to bowing in front of him.

  • British arms sales to Russia are embarrassing, hypocritical and morally repugnant

    07/23/2014 12:25:41 PM PDT · 7 of 10
    DTA to Sam Gamgee
    >>>>>>The Brits are not our friends.<<<<<<

    Britain has no permanent friends, only permanent interests. - Lord Palmerston

  • Mocking the IRS with Reason TV

    07/23/2014 12:21:20 PM PDT · 5 of 6
    DTA to Kaslin
    How about all who are targeted by IRS resort to the The Bible, premium manual for urban guerrilla and public disobedience:

    Luke 6:29

    To him who gives you a blow on one side of the face offer the other side also;

    Meaning: turn around and face your accuser face to face. do not allow him to beat you like cattle.

    and to him who is robbing you of your outer garment refuse not the under one also

    Meaning: take off all your clothes in front of the judge and show your private parts to humiliate the accuser as well as the corrupt court.

    Mass disrobing could work to ridicule TSA pervs as well.

  • MH17: By defying the West, bully-boy Vladimir Putin could lead Russia to ruin

    07/23/2014 12:08:51 PM PDT · 9 of 49
    DTA to Tailgunner Joe
    >>>>>>The most important thing for European ministers to remember during this crisis is how little they actually have to fear from Mr Putin – for Russia needs the West far more than the West needs Russia.<<<<<

    Cheerful talk of the crickets at sweltering July heat.

    They do not have to fear from the ant. They'll fear winter cold. And their own empty pockets.

  • Why Vladimir Putin Is Kicking Barack Obama's Behind

    07/23/2014 11:07:26 AM PDT · 27 of 27
    DTA to Night Hides Not
    The essence of Odumbo is in this picture:

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 8:52:12 AM PDT · 54 of 72
    DTA to SampleMan
    >>>>>Indeed, the name Ukraine, as it is now applied, likely came into common usage during the period of Polish control, and its reference to the area as “a border” was in reference to the border of their control. Not as you imply, that somehow it was always considered a border possession of the Russian people.<<<<<<<

    If the name Ukraine came into usage during Polish control, today's name for that country would be Pograniczie. (Pograniczie - borderland in Polish)

    Polish control of Ukraine was the control of Russian borderland, not vice versa.

    Toponyms are tough cookie - they can not be stolen and destroyed to fit anyone's agenda. Even altered they are telling the story right. Toponyms are the original memes.

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 8:24:06 AM PDT · 52 of 72
    DTA to Krosan
    >>>>>>>Where do you get all this stuff. Do you read it from some forum in the internet or ... ?<<<<<

    Quality education, good memory, and the search engines can do wonders :-)

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 8:09:59 AM PDT · 48 of 72
    DTA to SampleMan
    >>>>>>Indeed, for several centuries it was the center of Rus civilization<<<<<<

    In other words, Russia started from there.

    The toponym Ukraine means frontier, borderland of Rus.

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 7:57:45 AM PDT · 44 of 72
    DTA to Uncle Chip
    Racism and race card is not the same thing.

    A Caucasian man can hate the entire Caucasian ethnic group AS SUCH. It is racism. Racism is not limited by the skin tone.

    The best example are the German Nazis who considered all Slavic people to be untermensch (lesser than human).

    German Nazis were racists. Exposing them is NOT a "race card". That's what I am talking about here.

    You are pulling straw man here.

    The massive use of logical fallacies, semi truths and omissions has nothing to do with Conservative values. It is a method favored by Obunga and his flock.

    Hint: before posting check the fact first.

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 7:26:55 AM PDT · 33 of 72
    DTA to Krosan
    >>>>>DTA, are you trying to make a record for lies told per sentence?<<<<<<<

    No, only to smoke out bigots who spew lies to suport their racism.

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 7:25:33 AM PDT · 32 of 72
    DTA to SampleMan
    >>>>>>>>What would you call a group of Mexican immigrants who took up arms to force the reunification of the American SW with Mexico?<<<<<<

    Russians live for centuries in what is called Ukraine today. It is their country.

    Better analogy was this: China bankers install puppet regime in Washington DC and split the U.S. into 15 states. They create Aztlan out of TX, Socal and Arizona. Aztlan government is supported by Beijing. and murder and harass English speakers.

    How would you call Texans in this scenario that is similar to what is going on in Ukraine today?

    Thugs?

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 7:17:15 AM PDT · 28 of 72
    DTA to wetphoenix
    >>>>>>>>On the other hand Su-25 is too tough to get downed with a single manpad hit.>>>>>>>

    "What goes up must come down" - Isaac Newton, USAF

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 7:11:38 AM PDT · 25 of 72
    DTA to Uncle Chip
    >>>>>If that's true then why aren't they fighting in their homeland Russia???<<<<<<

    They ARE in THEIR OWN country. Your Nazi junta want to take the land FROM them and stripe off all their civil rights. One of the first laws Kiev junta declared was to BAN the use of Russian language in Ukraine. Russian is spoken by the majority of the Ukraine population for CENTURIES. P> Ukrainian is a dialect relatively few speak outside of Western Ukraine. During elections, most politicians speak Russian so the voters could understand them.

    Ukraine never existed as a separate country before Communists created it in 1917. Check the name of "Ukraine" before Soviet takeover - it was called Novorossiya.

    You are hopelessly clueless.

  • U.S. discloses intelligence on downing of Malaysian jet

    07/23/2014 6:50:11 AM PDT · 11 of 15
    DTA to Uncle Chip
    >>>>>voiceprint analysis of separatists claiming credit for the strike, and a flood of photos and other data from social-media sites.<<<<<

    Wow, NSA watch out, Facebook and Twitter are the most important players for data gathering.

    The problem is, voiceprint has been debunked already as splice job.

    No doubt, WH follows the KAL007 playbook, when Japanese voice intercept of Soviet conversation betwen command and the pilot was shortened from 9 to 4 minutes and spliced in order to serve as a "proof" to accuse USSR of deliberately shooting down an airliner. The truth came out when the Cold war ended.

    There is a difference between 1983 and 2014 - WH has no monopoly on information, as was the case in 1983.

  • 2 Ukrainian military fighter jets shot down in eastern Ukraine

    07/23/2014 6:36:43 AM PDT · 19 of 72
    DTA to Uncle Chip
    Ever heard of MANPADs and AA guns? No need for SAM to shoot a fighter jet down.

    Air support fighter jets usually fly below 15,000ft, military transports also, well in the range of AAA and MANDPADs.

    You love to call people who defend their homes from illegal junta "thugs".

    So, I believe your heart is on the side of Ukrainian Nazis who burn people alive and murdered hundreds of civilians so far. Your choice. Only make sure you find better arguments to defend it.

  • Bulgaria calls for more NATO troops in southeastern Europe

    07/23/2014 6:27:55 AM PDT · 7 of 7
    DTA to Tailgunner Joe
    Bulgaria did not find a master she did not like.

    Enthusiastic ally of German Empire in WWI

    Enthusiastic ally of Nazi Germany in WWII

    Enthusiastic ally of Soviet Union. The loudest and the most shameless Kremlin mouthpiece.

    Enthusiastic ally of the U.S. Not the loudest, but shameful mouthpiece nevertheless.

    U.S. should take note how ALL of former Bulgarian masters ended. Perhaps the strongest curse is "wish you Bulgaria for an ally".

  • Cockpit of MH17 found sawed in half at crash site

    07/22/2014 7:07:02 PM PDT · 12 of 13
    DTA to kjam22
    >>>>>>>You know.... the more I hear about this thing..... the more I’m convinced there were some individuals on that plane that were the target.<<<<<<

    Among 20 or so AIDS scientist, there was a Dutch guy who offered cheap AIDS treatment. Dr Joep Lange.

    He could be the prime target. However, car accident is easier to arrange than Ukrainians who bungled.

    Interesting,there were also 20 semiconductor experts on MH370.

    Moral of the story: If you have valuable expertise in your head, do not travel in a group.

  • Why The Russians Are Panicking Over Flight 17

    07/22/2014 3:33:00 PM PDT · 40 of 40
    DTA to bill1952
    >>>>>TWA crashed. Period<<<<

    I thought it exploded due to tank vapor.

    We can perhaps learn something from the previous cases of sudden flight arrest syndrome when military objectives and civilian airlines collide in the exact time and space grid.

    Red line connecting events is human error, disinformation and/or political interference.

    1. JAT Flight 364. In January 1972, DC-9 entered soon to be closed Czechoslovakian airspace due to military excercise. Pilot hoped to get out before ban is in effect. He was late and as a result, his plane was mistaken for a radar blip and shot down.

    Aftermath: incident was hushed up on the highest level between Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia blamed Croatian Nazis for planting the bomb aboard.

    Characteristics: Human error (pilot's, SAM operators'), government cover up. Propaganda exploitation of the event.

    2. KAL 007. The flight was held at Anchorage, to sync it's arrival time to Soviet airspace with the satellite flying overhead. When KAL007 entered CLOSED Soviet airspace over secret naval base where the secret testing was ongoing, KAL 007 flew with no signal lights and did not respond to the interceptor's commands. Pilot and ground control thought it was an American spy plane and shot it down.

    Incident was recorded by the Japanese listening post at Hokkaido.

    Aftermath: U.S. government tampered with the tape in order to implicate USSR. Nine minute tape was shortened to four. The truth came out later.

    Characteristics: Deliberate action by KAL pilot, human error by Soviet pilot. Political interference, propaganda exploitation of the event.

    3. Iran Air 655. Iranian airliner used F14 squawks and was shot down by Vincennes.

    It was used for propaganda purposes by Iran. U.S. never admitted guilt but paid $60M damages.

    Characteristics: human error (U.S.), deliberate intent (Iran), propaganda exploitation (Iran).

    4. Sibir Air 1812 - shot down during military exercise in Ukraine on a flight path that was not closed for civilian traffic. Ukraine refused to admit firing SAM for several months.

    Characteristics: human error. Government cover up. No propaganda exploitation.

    So far, MH17 has the elements of KAL 007 (pilot veering off 10 miles from the flight path, spy satellite flying overhead, propaganda exploitation).

    If it walks like a duck, if it talks like a duck probably it's a duck.

  • Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow

    07/22/2014 1:32:25 PM PDT · 55 of 66
    DTA to McGruff
    A distant possibility: Ukraine interceptor SU-25 attempted to steer MH17 back to course (MH17 veered off 45 degrees just after Donetsk) but was illuminated from the ground by the Ukrainian BUK-M1 kupola radar. SU-25 Pilot launched chaff and the chaff was somehow sucked by the engine of B777 causing it to nosedive.

    Any experts who could voice opinion based on photos of B777 remains? Was it shot down by a small AIM or large SAM? The plumes coming from the crash site may indicate that the airliner did not disintegrate at 33,000 ft.

  • Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow

    07/22/2014 12:59:37 PM PDT · 51 of 66
    DTA to TexasGunLover
    >>>>>>>>>The SU-25 can’t fly at 33k feet.<<<<<<<<

    SU-25 Frogfoot can carry the AA-8 Aphid/R-60 IR and turkey shot an airliner flying at FL330 from FL230ft.

    If vertical distance between SU-25 and MH17 is a=10,000ft and horizontal distance is b=15,000ft, what is the distance c A-A missile has to fly to hit MH17?

    Pythagorean theorem = shooting distance is is 18,000ft, well within the range of AA-8 Aphid.

  • Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow

    07/22/2014 12:40:06 PM PDT · 44 of 66
    DTA to liege
    >>>>>>>I thought the civilian jet was supposed to be hundreds of miles off course and not in a normal pattern, including flying lower than usual. The Ukranian jet was there to check things out, da?>>>>>

    MH17 was on a flight path given to the pilot by Kiev ATC and flew at the altitude given by ATC. This flight path was some 300 miles north of usual flight paths MH17 used previously, and some 3,000 ft lower than usual.

    However, there is something unusual. MH17 was not flying in the straight path like commercial airliners do. It suddenly veered off from the flight path like a driver avoiding a pothole and then returned to the flight path seconds before being shot down.

    By what? Surface to air missile from below or Air to Air missile from an interceptor?

    Ukrainian army had both available at the time MH17 crash occured. BUK M1 was operational, with acquisition radars illuminating sky and Flanker was less than 4 miles from MH17.

  • If you like your AK-47, you can keep your AK-47

    07/22/2014 11:43:44 AM PDT · 9 of 13
    DTA to ButThreeLeftsDo
    How about "if you like your Stoli, you can keep your Stoli".

    There is no substitute for Stoli, but there is a substitute for AK-47. Check Zastava M-70, the best derivative.

  • Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko: The World Must Choose Sides

    07/22/2014 11:21:14 AM PDT · 26 of 26
    DTA to Grzegorz 246
    >>>>BTW Any news on “Zakopane concentration camp” <<<<<

    Actually, there were 4, not one concentration camps in Polish-Russian war 1920 where 20,000 Russians and Ukrainians died from the Polish hand.

    Strzałkowo, Pikulice, Wadowice, and Tuchola.

    The number of Russian POWs can be estimated at between 80,000 and 85,000, and that the number of deaths in the camps can be estimated from 16,000 (Karpus, Rezmer) to 20,000 (Matveyev)

    This issue is settled among Polish and Russian historians.

    However, it seems that Polish bigots are lagging far behind.

    Perhaps you should learn to Google to stop being exposed as a bigot who does not tell the truth?

  • Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko: The World Must Choose Sides

    07/21/2014 11:21:52 PM PDT · 23 of 26
    DTA to Uncle Chip
    >>>>I side with the Malaysians and the Dutch on this one.<<<<

    So did Ruskies. They provided complete sigint about Ukraine airforce and air defense units to EU and Malaysia.

    Have you noticed how Washington got silent?

    On the date of the shooting down of MH17, U.S. experimental spy satellite was over the area from 17.06 to 17:21 an Russians asked for information bird gathered to corroborate what they ALREADY gave to EU and Malaysia.

    I feel sorry for the otherwise decent people who fell line hook and sinker for the lies of Nazi scum in Kiev and their handlers.

  • Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko: The World Must Choose Sides

    07/21/2014 11:08:58 PM PDT · 22 of 26
    DTA to nickcarraway
    look who's talking

    Such scum was defeated May 9th, 1945. but with American help re-emerged again.

  • Why The Russians Are Panicking Over Flight 17

    07/21/2014 9:34:48 PM PDT · 35 of 40
    DTA to InterceptPoint
    >>>>>>>In all likelihood we have satellite imagery of the launch and the detonation also with geolocation data.<<<<

    There was a U.S. spy satellite flying over the area at the very time MH17 crashed. Ruskies asked Washington to release data. Don't hold your breath it will happen.

    So far, Americans shot down two airliners (Iran Air 655 and TWA 800), Ruskies shot one (KAL007) and Ukrainians one (sibir air 1812). It took Ukrainians two months to admit, and it was a peace time. It took years to understand what happened with KAL007 It will take years to learn of TWA800.

    So, who shot MH17 down? Ladies and Gentlemen, place your bets. Your FR credibility is at stake.

  • Why The Russians Are Panicking Over Flight 17

    07/21/2014 9:25:52 PM PDT · 34 of 40
    DTA to Ingtar

    Wikipedia is like public toilet - you never know who was there before you :-)

    If someone pooped on the floor and other person cleans up - it is not sign of panic, more a sign of civic responsibility.

    Wikipedia is kind of tug of war, as can be seen by so many locked entries.

  • Why Russia buys Putin’s lies

    07/21/2014 9:15:52 PM PDT · 39 of 70
    DTA to Tau Food
    Putin is a frontman, a sort of trade mark. Is he incompetent? He managed to get India - China - Persia and Russia at the same table. Never before it happened in the history of the world.

    Arranged overland rail transport from South Korea to Hamburg, quicker than sea route by some 12 days. Ouch, that hurts.

    Striked deals to share wealth with Germans, British Royals (BP) and Dutch - they are resellers of Russian gas. Thats why Europe does not care about American call for sanctions.

    Established international bank to rival IMF leeches. Ouch, that hurts - Dollar will NOT be used for transactions for 4/5 of the world population.

    This "incompetent commie" established flat tax 13%. How would you like that for yourself?

    It does not sound incompetent to me. More of a game changer with capitalist spirit.

  • Why Russia buys Putin’s lies

    07/21/2014 8:17:35 PM PDT · 11 of 70
    DTA to Tau Food
    How many innocent civilians Odumbo murdered in Libya in order to bring AQ to power?

    How many Odumbo murdered in Syria in an attempt to bring AQ to power?

    How many innocent civilians Odumbo murdered in Pakistan allegedly chasing AQ?

    Nobel prize winner, the leader of the Free world.

  • Putin has ‘let slip the dogs of war’: Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird

    07/21/2014 6:06:25 PM PDT · 30 of 36
    DTA to cuban leaf
    >>>>>>>Meh, I compare this to the beginning of WWII. Crimea is like Austria and Ukraine is like Poland. And Russia is Nazi Germany.>>>>>>

    If you are fond of comparisons, make sure you compare similar things. Austria was NEVER part of Germany, Crimea was always part of Russia. Better comparison is the sinking of Maine. "You furnish the pictures, I furnish the war". MSM is doing the same today as Hearst was doing back then.

    If you do not what I am talking about, look it up.

    Or compare it with the sinking of Lusitania.

    If it was too long ago for you, compare it with the USS Maddox incident.

    If it was before your age, compare it with Racak incident.

    I could go on, but hope you are familiar with the recent staged incidents used as precursors of military interventions.

    Since you speak of Nazi Germany, she started WWII with staged Gliewitz incident. So, Nazi Germany policy continues, but not by Russia.

  • Putin has ‘let slip the dogs of war’: Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird

    07/21/2014 5:53:26 PM PDT · 29 of 36
    DTA to Tailgunner Joe
    Both Ruskies and Americans have information who shot down MH17 and it ain't rebels.

    Russian MOD has spoken and asked Americans to reveal what they have. They did, and it implicates Kiev.

    It seems that either CSIS was not briefing Baird about the latest development, or he was too stupid to understand it.

    Baird's statements are of the same mental magnitude as Mel Lastman's when he was the mayor of Toronto.

    The only thing I could say in his defense is that he is speaking on behalf of Galicia Waffen SS descendants and not in the name of all Canadians.

    It's a shame who represents Canada.

  • Crashed MH17 flight 'was 300 miles off typical course'

    07/21/2014 12:54:25 PM PDT · 100 of 115
    DTA to holden
    MA captain is on record in his radio communication stating he is "uncomfortable" with a new route and altitude given by Kiev ATC.

    However, for some reason he accepted it. Perhaps to save $1500 worth of fuel. Or there was something else.

    it is getting interesting by the day.

    New development: another shadow of KAL007.

    Ruskies today claimed (and have evidence) that U.S. spy satellite flew overhead at the very time MH17 being shot down and ask from U.S. to release the photos and electronic other records of the shootdown. Ouch.

    They also claim that Ukrainian SU-25 was shadowing MH17 at a distance of 3 nm.

  • Crashed MH17 flight 'was 300 miles off typical course'

    07/20/2014 11:23:57 PM PDT · 63 of 115
    DTA to tophat9000
    >>>>>Because the flight path over that area could of been directed by Ukraine flight control... So why directed in to a hot area not on normal flight path? To try to trigger some incident for political gain?. testing defence?<<<<<<<<

    Shadow of KAL007, at least by judging WH propaganda arm.

    What is known beyond doubt:

    1. The route was chosen by Ukraine ATC in Kiev. Pilot accepted the route, although he was not obliged to do so.

    2. Kiev ATC lowered flight from 36,000ft (360) to 32,000 ft.

    3. Corridor was closed for civilian traffic BELOW 30,000 ft. MH17 was sailing only 200ft above restricted airspace.

    4. Ukraine army deployed 21 BUK launchers and command vehicle/radar two day before in the area where the MH17 fell.

    5. Acquisition radar was active at the time MH17 was shot down.

    6. Kiev ATC reported of MH17 being shot down the moment it went off radar.

    7. Numerous amateur videos captured the plane plumes. On several of the videos chaff could be seen falling down, indicating the presence of someone's fighter jets.

    Who did it? There are 5 possible perps: US/NATO puppet regime in Kiev, Russia, Donetsk defence forces, Oligarchs paying one of the parties to do dirty job for them.

    So, the better question is - Who gains?

  • Crashed MH17 flight 'was 300 miles off typical course'

    07/20/2014 11:11:27 PM PDT · 61 of 115
    DTA to aposiopetic
    >>>>>>>Agreed. Does somebody have it in for the airline, their insurer, or their reinsurer? Maybe some other carrier wants those routes? >>>>>>

    Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 (MH370) was leased from Soros-affiliated company.

    Can anyone confirm whether this MH17 was also leased from Soros?

    Methinks MA is Air America of sorts.

  • Sebastian Gorka: Christian Holocaust Underway in Iraq, USA and World Look On

    07/20/2014 8:46:30 AM PDT · 9 of 18
    DTA to zipper
    The best thing that happened to Jihad is military and diplomatic support of the United States.

    Since U.S.A. started helping jihadists in the last 30 or so years, hundreds of thousand of Christians were murdered and their lands stolen and given to Jihadists. Timor, Kosovo, Libya, now Iraq. The thin red line connecting events is American military intervention on behalf of Islamofascists.

    Officially, U.S.A. is not a Christian country. "In God We trust" is not specific to whose God it relates to, but the U.S. actions in the last 30 years show it very precisely.

    The official U.S. policy is anti-Christian and supports Islam. The more Christians murdered, the better.

    The question of all questions, Why?, is hard to fathom.

    I have a working theory. U.S. support to Communism and Nazism failed miserably because Communism and Nazism were not effective in mind control of their subjects, they were only effective for physical control.

    Islam is different, it is perfect mind control tool to enslave the entire population. Islam does not build gulags and concentration camps, Islam imprisons minds. For someone bent on controlling the population of the entire World, Islam is perfect tool.Scary thought. It is the worst dystopia I could think of. A handful of elite ruling over the entire world enslaved by Islam. And no dissent.

  • MH17: British families say 'Russian gangsters killed our loved ones'

    07/19/2014 9:25:06 PM PDT · 84 of 92
    DTA to Charles H. (The_r0nin)
    Perhaps you'll care to read Chapter 4, The Five Minute tape gap from Warriors of Disinformation.

    For those who overslept it in the 1980's KAL 007 episode could be very enlightening today when blind trusting MSM and WH about Ukraine and MH17.

    At least we do not have to worry about the Company's credibility - they lost credibility long time ago. Cold War warriors were smart. Boomers and Gen. X running it today are not up to it - they get caught every time like amateurs.

  • MH17: British families say 'Russian gangsters killed our loved ones'

    07/19/2014 6:57:21 PM PDT · 80 of 92
    DTA to Drew68
    In order to shoot down an airplane at high altitude, BUK (NATO: SA-17 Grizzly) needs acquisition radar called Kupola (dome) as well.

    So called terrorists do not have such radar. Prosecutor General of Ukraine Vitaliy Yarema is on record saying the rebels do not have Buk or S 300

    However, Ukraine army has Kupola and 21 launchers in the vicinity of crash site, brought in the theatre several days ago, for unknown reason ("terrorists" do not have any fixed wing aircraft.)

    So, for the sake of discussion, how SA-17 can shoot down an airplane travelling 600 knots at 33,000ft without radar?

    If it can not, the question is - who had the operational radar illuminating the target?

  • Review: Divorcing a Real Witch

    07/19/2014 6:35:04 PM PDT · 5 of 37
    DTA to nickcarraway

    Bent One should read this book.

  • As The West Declines, Russia Fills The Vacuum

    07/19/2014 5:46:20 PM PDT · 39 of 58
    DTA to ncalburt
    >>>>>As a child, I witness what the Russians did to East Germany <<<<<

    Perhaps payback for what Germans did to Russia in WWII.

    From the tone of your voice one could not conclude Nazism was defeated for good.

  • UKRAINE: ATO. SUMMARY OF THE DAY 19/07/14

    07/19/2014 5:30:17 PM PDT · 2 of 5
    DTA to UMCRevMom@aol.com
    Kiev junta forces last week:

    KIA/MIA : 1600

    No reports on the fate of an entire infantry division being encircled without fuel and ammunition for the second week. Can you find it?

  • MH17: British families say 'Russian gangsters killed our loved ones'

    07/19/2014 5:23:59 PM PDT · 76 of 92
    DTA to Uncle Chip
    >>>>>It's called legally elected when after an air crash, the "Kiev Junta" sends in emergency workers to do the hard work of bagging and identifying the remains of the dead, while your thug junta sends in its obfuscators, prefabricators, and looters to desecrate them. <<<<<

    So they only needed to shoot down an airliner to gain legitimacy ? Wow, stellar statement, indeed.

  • MH17: British families say 'Russian gangsters killed our loved ones'

    07/19/2014 4:53:06 PM PDT · 72 of 92
    DTA to free_life
    >>>>>Your calling the legally elected Ukraine govt ‘Kiev Junta’ is a dead giveaway where your from. tata!<<<<

    Since when is the coup called "legally elected"? "Our man Yats" and his neo-Nazi thugs are Junta installed and supported by the U.S. of A.

    It is known fact.