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Pollsters get totally different results depending on how they ask the question about illegal immigration. When they ask people to rank their concerns in order of importance, illegal immigration always comes out near the bottom.

When they ask people the degree of their concern of "illegal" immigrants it always produces a number that appears to make it look like a much greater concern than it really is.

People surveyed about twenty issues might respond that they are "extremely concern" about every one of them including the issue of an invasion from Mars. "Extremely concerned" is not very meaningful in this type poll.

But these type polls are useful in gauging shifts in public opinion over time (comparing apples to apples). The percent of people saying that illegal immigration is extremely important has not changed in this poll since January 2002. It remained constant at 49%. The anti-immigrant propaganda campaign has not been effective.

Also from the poll was a question concerning civilian border patrols. From the poll:
"By a 56% to 41% margin, Californians reject the idea of private citizens forming patrols along the border with Mexico to reduce the number of people entering the country."

This poll is not good news for the Buchasnan/Tancredo crowd.

You can say that again.

Most sane people who are in control of their emotions don't start off a post with "My GOD what is happening to our country? "

A common response on FR would be "We're all going to die!. We're all going to die!"

You have made it quite obvious in past threads that you are a Pat Buchanan supporter who opposes President Bush.

Now you post an hysterical comment calling for "Bushbots" to come see how things are in Texas. Things are great in Texas for everyone except you.

Why don't you just tell us how bad things are for you? Have you been fired from jobs and replaced by illegal Hondurans? Are illegal Hondurans competing with you in your personal affairs? Is there a problem in your church with illegal Hondurans? Why have you been reduced to crying "My GOD what is happening to our country?"

Over the years the generally accepted journalist standard has been that a journalist has an obligation to go to jail before identifying his source, but not to stay in jail. After a few days in jail it is acceptable for the journalist to reveal his source.

Judith Miller is no longer protecting a source, she is probably protecting herself. She probably made some lucky connections of dots and is in fact the origin of the story herself. She can't give the name of her informant because there probably isn't one.

"My GOD what is happening to our country? I wish all you BushBots would move down here to Texas for a few days and see the mess we have. "

Got off our meds again did we?

I live in Texas and we don't have any problem at all. Hispanics play a major role in producing the high standard of living we have.

Our economy is great, our crime rate is down, our academic test scores are improving, our medical facilities are expanding at record rates.

What is your problem? The immigrant women are very gracious and lovely. The men are hard working and devoted to their families. The children are well behaved and the teens conduct themselves with decorum.

Well said.

You may not immediately be banned but there may be attempts in the future by the third-party FReepers to ban you.

An FR poll last year indicated that there are over 200 members of the Constitution Party.

Those 200 people tend to be very vocal and their objective is to undermine support for the Republican Party. Most of them hate president Bush even more than the Democrats but they will rarely identify themselves as anything but loyal Republicans.

Watch your step and good luck.

I've been saying for over five hundred years that New Orleans is the legendary Alantis of the future.

"It's not good enough to poo-poo another guys pick without having one of your own."

Oh flashbunny has a political party, you can bet that, and their candidate will be anybody but someone who has a chance to win the Republican nomination.

The Tancredo/Buchanan website recommended that people vote for the Constitution Party candidate last year.

Newspapers are already referring to Bay Buchanan as Tancredo's campaign manager. Bay has said that if Tancredo backs out of running that "they" will find another candidate.

Tancredo is the precursor of the Constitution Party 2008 presidential candidate, if not the candidate himself. Their current mission is to sabotage the Republican Party.

The Constitution Party is in 100% agreement with Cindy Sheeham.

"I heard a hurricane refugee on talk radio today complain that "his 2,000 debit card wasn't enough he wanted ten thousand". "

I heard a Tancredo supporter say they should all be sent back to whatever country their ancestors came from.

"Why arent the showing clips of the gay parade the other day? "

Isn't your picture on your profile page enough for you?

"Has anyone seen a reason to watch any of this dribble? "

But for the Grace of God...

I doubt that the Libertarian Party raised a fourth of what Buchanan did. (even tho they got more votes).

The point is that there is lots of money to be made running for president, especially if you appeal to the extremists.

Wow, it must have taken you hundreds of hours going back a year to compile such a feeble list of things which in your opinion are improper.

I must have said something that really sent you over the top. Was it the statement that anyone who really wants a job in America today can get one? Or the statement that anyone who can't compete with illegal aliens in the job market has problems?

Did I strike a nerve with you when I referred to guys who stay home playing their gameboys and tell their parents or wife that they can't get a job because the illegals have all of them? Maybe it was the comment about men who are six months behind on child support but refuse to accept a job at less than union scale.

Or perhaps you are another Jude Doty?

" increase the number of LEGAL immigrants that we let into the United States"

That's what President Bush's guest worker plan does. But the Buchanan/Tancredo crowd opposes letting more immigrtants in.

"But they threw one hell of a party.;) "

And walked away with one hell of a mailing list compiled with Federal matching funds. There's lots of money in presidential campaigns.

New Orleans has always had a high crime rate. Illegals aren't the problem there.

The fact is that America is not on the brink of destruction due to a crime wave, that Western civilization is not in jeopardy, that American culture is not about to disappear, that it isn't impossible for citizens to find jobs today or any of the other hysterical claims made by the anti-illegals.

The point I was making is that the term "race baiting" is thrown around a lot on FR by the anti-illegals without them ever saying what they mean by it or giving any examples.

So much of their rhetoric consist of meaningless slogans repeated countless times on countless threads that they say things like "race baiting" without even thinking twice about it. It's a knee-jerk reaction to accuse anyone of race baiting who confronts them with factual evidence that they can't refute.

In an FR poll last year over 200 members of FR indicated that they were members of the Constitution Party and over 100 the Libertarian Party. They tend to be very vocal on FR but seldom mention their party affiliation.

You can see by this article what the libertarian thinking is. The Constitution Party is even worse. Cindy Shehan must have taken her talking points directly from their platform which reads in part:

"In responding to terrorism, however, the United States must avoid acts of retaliation abroad which destroy innocent human lives, creating enmity toward the United States and its people; and

"In accord with the views of our Founding Fathers, we must disengage this nation from the international entanglements which generate foreign hatred of the United States, and are used as the excuse for terrorist attacks on America and its people.

"The 'war on terrorism" is not a proper excuse for perpetual U.S. occupation of foreign lands, military assaults on countries which have not injured us, or perpetual commitment of taxpayer dollars to finance foreign governments. "Although some people consider then harmless, the third-party FReepers are just as anti-America as the anti-war protesters during the Vietnam era and they should be exposed wherever they pop up.

"Before the war, we were told we faced an imminent threat to our national security from Saddam Hussein. "

No true. President Bush never said that the threat was "imminent".

Ron Paul is just gearing up to raise more money from his third party wacko supporters.

When he ran for President I asked him point blank if he was in favor of legalizing all drugs and if he supported abortion on demand. He refused to give a definitive answer, but instead talked in general terms about room for compromise on party platforms.

"Tancredo is just another democrat pleasing media whore. "

And Pat Buchanan's sock puppet. Several newspapers have begun referring to Bay Buchanan as Tancredo's campaign manager.

When Bay managed Pat's campaign in 2000 the entire strategy consisted of attacking George W. Bush (or as Pat called him, "that Bush boy"). She only managed to get Pat .04% of the vote, but raised $40 Million doing it.

There's lots of money in presidential politics.

What name did you post on before changing it last week? Or have you simply added another name under which you post?

Newbies are easy to spot. They usually make the same common errors. You haven't made any of them. Often there is a good reason for changing the name under which one posts, but most FReepers usually let people know the reason so it doesn't look like there is any deception.