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Setting The Record Straight
11/6/2004 | alfons

Posted on 11/07/2004 2:30:20 PM PST by alfons

How about that. This forum is called Free Republic. To me the definition of a free republic is where you have the freedom to express your ideas and not to be ridiculed. The question then becomes, is this forum a true Free Republic where one can express their own ideas even if same differ somewhat or is it a free republic for those with only one point of view, differences be barred from the forum. Gee, it sounds like what I left behind when I came to this country from Cuba where there was only one opinion accepted, that which followed the line of Fidel Castro. Is that what this forum truly wants to become? By the way, just for your information, yes I voted for the Libertarian Party candidate for president as a protest vote. However, and I hope many of you will read these words, the rest of the candidates who I voted for, were all REPUBLICANS. This I am sure must be a shock to some of you, but that is the reality. I specially voted for Republicans who were FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE and who are probably considered libertarians or leaning libertarian. Notice, I stated the word with a SMALL l. HOW ABOUT THAT! Locally, in my community I am involved with groups that oppose tax increases and advocate property rights. I even sat in my town's Environmental Commission. I was the only one who strongly defended property rights and free market environmentalism. Most of the other members believe in government control over property etc. I usually got into very heated discussions and referred to them as either socialists or fascists. You see, again I do not give lip service to defending capitalism and the Constitution. What I believe as outlined above, I follow through with deeds and people that really know me will attest to that and all who know me are not all libertarians. I have been to rallies that support the Bush actions in Iraq and Afghanistan> I have met some Freepers at these events and joined them in support of these actions by President Bush. By the way, even in the Libertarian Party there is a faction called FIGHT FOR LIBERTY, that supports the president's actions in both of those countries to weed out terrorists. I bet you all did not know that. Wow, I guess a number of you are quick to judge. I got news for some of you who asked me to find another forum, IT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN! Your comments about finding another forum have only served to embolden my resolve. Well, until the next thread that I post I bid you all goodnight and MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!


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1 posted on 11/07/2004 2:30:20 PM PST by alfons
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To: alfons
To me the definition of a free republic is where you have the freedom to express your ideas and not to be ridiculed.

NO

A Free Republic is where you have a right to express your opinions, and we have a right to express our opinions, even if our opinions ridicule yours.

Ya gotta toughen up if you want to survive in this world.

So9

2 posted on 11/07/2004 2:33:21 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (What I just said.)
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To: alfons

The republic should be free, but the website is not. This is where conservatives go to brainstorm ideas.


3 posted on 11/07/2004 2:33:45 PM PST by ez (Let the tolerant tolerate my intolerance!)
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To: alfons
The question then becomes, is this forum a true Free Republic where one can express their own ideas even if same differ somewhat or is it a free republic for those with only one point of view,

One point of view? lol....you've been around here long enough to know better. The fights around here are legendary.

4 posted on 11/07/2004 2:35:17 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: alfons

Jim Robinson's house, Jim Robinson's rules. If you don't like them, the beauty of this medium is that you can start you own web site.


5 posted on 11/07/2004 2:35:32 PM PST by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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To: alfons

Well, it sounds like you get involved instead of standing on the sidelines. How you vote is your business. But I appreciate your support for whichever Republicans you voted for.
Like any human endeavor, this place is made up of individuals. So the idea thre's only one point of view is false. There may be a majority of opinion, though. Stick around and join the fray.


6 posted on 11/07/2004 2:58:22 PM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free. ")
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To: alfons

Well, it sounds like you get involved instead of standing on the sidelines. How you vote is your business. But I appreciate your support for whichever Republicans you voted for.
Like any human endeavor, this place is made up of individuals. So the idea thre's only one point of view is false. There may be a majority of opinion, though. Stick around and join the fray.


7 posted on 11/07/2004 2:59:37 PM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free. ")
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To: alfons
The following is the "Statement by the founder of Free Republic", by Jim Robinson:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts

As you should know because of your life experiences, you have to be thick-skinned when you express your opinions "publicly".

I put publicly in quotes because unlike public forums, FreeRepublic is a privately owned and operated website.

Yes, it is customary for FReepers to restrain themselves from attacks of a personal nature and flaming, but opinions by nature, are subject to interpretation.

It is also customary to add "Vanity" to the title of posts that are exclusively about yourself and your opinions.

Good Luck! Here's to hoping that everyone keeps the debates clean if not calm.

8 posted on 11/07/2004 3:03:52 PM PST by Laurita (PROSECUTE TREASON, period.)
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To: alfons

Is your hair standing on end?

Do you feel a wee bit of electricy in the air?

Is there a buzzing in your ears?

Duck and cover!

The Great Zot is coming.


9 posted on 11/07/2004 3:05:03 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: 95 Bravo

I don't respect people who vote third party. You seemed to agree w/ Bush on almost everything, and you voted for a worthless LIBertarian. Two parties alone is a good system, and multiparty systems are the reason Hitler came to power. Rather than voting for third partys, people should try to influence a main party one way or the other, because it's much more effective than being on the same level as the American Communist Party and the Marijuana Party.


10 posted on 11/07/2004 3:05:38 PM PST by polyester~monkey (4 Senate seats, 4 House Seats, and 52% of the popular vote: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN)
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To: alfons
Paragraphs are our friends. :o)

Reformatted, your post is more readable:

How about that.

This forum is called Free Republic.
To me the definition of a free republic is where you have the freedom to express your ideas and not to be ridiculed. The question then becomes, is this forum a true Free Republic where one can express their own ideas even if same differ somewhat or is it a free republic for those with only one point of view, differences be barred from the forum.

Gee, it sounds like what I left behind when I came to this country from Cuba where there was only one opinion accepted, that which followed the line of Fidel Castro.

Is that what this forum truly wants to become? By the way, just for your information, yes I voted for the Libertarian Party candidate for president as a protest vote. However, and I hope many of you will read these words, the rest of the candidates who I voted for, were all REPUBLICANS.

This I am sure must be a shock to some of you, but that is the reality. I specially voted for Republicans who were FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE and who are probably considered libertarians or leaning libertarian. Notice, I stated the word with a SMALL l.

HOW ABOUT THAT!

Locally, in my community I am involved with groups that oppose tax increases and advocate property rights. I even sat in my town's Environmental Commission. I was the only one who strongly defended property rights and free market environmentalism. Most of the other members believe in government control over property etc. I usually got into very heated discussions and referred to them as either socialists or fascists.

You see, again I do not give lip service to defending capitalism and the Constitution. What I believe as outlined above, I follow through with deeds and people that really know me will attest to that and all who know me are not all libertarians. I have been to rallies that support the Bush actions in Iraq and Afghanistan> I have met some Freepers at these events and joined them in support of these actions by President Bush.

By the way, even in the Libertarian Party there is a faction called FIGHT FOR LIBERTY, that supports the president's actions in both of those countries to weed out terrorists. I bet you all did not know that. Wow, I guess a number of you are quick to judge. I got news for some of you who asked me to find another forum, IT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN!

Your comments about finding another forum have only served to embolden my resolve. Well, until the next thread that I post I bid you all goodnight and MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!


11 posted on 11/07/2004 3:08:15 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
See also:
Why I did voted Libertarian
  Posted by alfons
On RLC Liberty Caucus 10/31/2004 1:39:18 PM PST · 49 replies · 429+ views


Al Gutierrez

12 posted on 11/07/2004 3:12:43 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
And:
Why I Voted For Badnarik
  Posted by alfons
On RLC Liberty Caucus 11/05/2004 6:28:05 PM PST · 17 replies · 121+ views


Al Gutierrez

13 posted on 11/07/2004 3:13:18 PM PST by RonDog
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To: polyester~monkey

Let's get this straight- I voted Republican, and worked on the campaign in my state. However, there ARE third party candidates on the ballots of some states. That is the current system. People can vote as they please, whether you respect it or not.


14 posted on 11/07/2004 3:51:38 PM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free. ")
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To: alfons

Welcome to America... Maybe you should take a step back and realize how it was founded! That way you could answer your own question.


15 posted on 11/09/2004 7:25:06 PM PST by PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower
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To: alfons

PING


16 posted on 11/12/2004 12:46:01 AM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: AnimalLover

I've been a registered libertarian since '96. Ususally I vote libertarian, but this time around I voted for Bush. I did so because Kerry would be bad for the country.

I think Bush is good on the war on terror, and generally good for the economy due to decreased regulation of business and the tax cut.

Bush is no conservative though, atleast fiscally. He's never vetoed a spending bill and thanks to him medicare has a prescription drug benefit now.


17 posted on 11/12/2004 10:03:47 PM PST by Dozer3
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To: alfons

Your either with us or against us, George W Bush, Says it, I agree. SO which is it? Are you with us or not?

We have no need for a third party parley, we need more republicans.

Ops4 God BLess America!


18 posted on 11/14/2004 8:53:51 PM PST by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: OPS4

The problem with that is what I'll refer to as the RINO phenomenon. We need conservative Republicans, and at many levels no such candidates exist on the ballot.


19 posted on 11/17/2004 3:29:28 PM PST by floydibanezer
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To: polyester~monkey
Two parties alone is a good system, and multiparty systems are the reason Hitler came to power.

Israel has more than two powerful political parties and I doubt any future Hitler's will be Jewish.
20 posted on 11/26/2004 11:55:28 PM PST by indefatigablejoe
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