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Science and Creation Myth
Oregon Magazine ^ | September 1, 2002 | Eric Blair

Posted on 09/02/2002 10:25:23 AM PDT by WaterDragon

The creation vs evolution drama continues. From here it looks like the God people are winning. When you think about that, it's a logical outcome. A supreme court that opens with a prayer comes off as a bit hypocritical when it says that religion has no place in publicly-financed institutions. That's a bit like a fox passing a law against hawks eating chickens.....(snip)

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1 posted on 09/02/2002 10:25:23 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Why the excerpt?

First paragraph sounds like typical liberal propaganda.

Those evil conservative Christians...

2 posted on 09/02/2002 10:29:26 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: WaterDragon
Interesting article, albeit a bit hyperbolical.
3 posted on 09/02/2002 10:34:36 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: tallhappy
Liberal? The liberals don't think "the God people are winning." The excerpt is simply because it takes only a click on the link that is there with the excerpt to read the article at the source.

Nothing "liberal" about this author! Really!
4 posted on 09/02/2002 10:44:08 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Huh?

What the excerpt and the link? Why not post the whole thing.

5 posted on 09/02/2002 10:46:40 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: WaterDragon
Curious rendition from non-believer
6 posted on 09/02/2002 10:47:01 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: WaterDragon
Everything evolves but NOT UNTIL IT'S CREATED!
8 posted on 09/02/2002 1:49:35 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: WaterDragon
"The descendants of this Eve, then, spread thence to all the planet, even back into Africa where their genetic structure also came to dominate completely. There is not a living soul on Earth who is not a relative of hers. Not one."

Not bad. Not bad at all.

One the explanations that causes many quarrels between evolutionists and creationists is the insistence by well-meaning creationists that Earth is less than 10,000 years old. Thhis is unfortunate, because the Bible itself alludes to man's existence long before Adam.

True that there is no one living today that is not a descendent of Adam, but evidence and the Bible both indicate that man (who left no progeny) walked the Earth long before Adam did.

9 posted on 09/02/2002 2:25:06 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: nightdriver; medved
To: Dimensio
As I see it, evolution is an ideological doctrine. If it were only a "scientific theory", it would have died a natural death 50 - 70 years ago; the evidence against it is too overwhelming and has been all along. The people defending it are doing so because they do not like the alternatives to an atheistic basis for science and do not like the logical implications of abandoning their atheistic paradigm and, in conducting themselves that way, they have achieved a degree of immunity to what most people call logic.

488 posted on 7/29/02 5:18 AM Pacific by medved

Main Entry: log·ic

Pronunciation: 'lä-jik
Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English logik, from Middle French logique, from Latin logica, from Greek logikE, from feminine of logikos of reason, from logos reason -- more at LEGEND

Date: 12th century

1 a

(1) : a science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration : the science of the formal principles of reasoning

(2) : a branch or variety of logic

(3) : a branch of semiotic; especially : SYNTACTICS

(4) : the formal principles of a branch of knowledge

b (1) : a particular mode of reasoning viewed as valid or faulty

(2) : RELEVANCE, PROPRIETY

c : interrelation or sequence of facts or events when seen as inevitable or predictable

d : the arrangement of circuit elements (as in a computer) needed for computation; also : the circuits themselves

2 : something that forces a decision apart from or in opposition to reason < the logic of war >

- lo·gi·cian /lO-'ji-sh&n/ noun


10 posted on 09/02/2002 2:36:04 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: nightdriver
This is unfortunate, because the Bible itself alludes to man's existence long before Adam.

Chapter and verse, please.

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11 posted on 09/02/2002 4:15:17 PM PDT by JCG
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To: JCG
I think God did it all. But He also kindly made it all discoverable for us. All the scientific "discoveries" were always there, just waiting til we figured them out. Like the vaccines for disease, the understanding of the circulatory system, hotspots on the sun, etc, etc.

Some scientists and many politicians want the theory of evolution to be true, so they pretend it is and they pretend that it proves the Scriptures wrong. THAT is no way to work on discovering scientific knowledge.

I just think it is so neat that God allows us to discover His creation.
12 posted on 09/02/2002 6:24:21 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: nightdriver
What you get reading midrashim is that Adam and Eve were real people, but that anything much else is conjecture. "First" man and woman might have meant something like "first such as us", i.e. first moderns as opposed to neanderthals.

There is compelling reason to believe that the changeover from neandrethals to modern man occurred within one or two generations, and that says genetic engineering and re-enbgineering, and not evolution or anything like evolution.

13 posted on 09/02/2002 6:26:35 PM PDT by medved
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To: JCG
"Chapter and verse, please. "

" Gen 1:2 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. (NIV) "

Look up the word "was" in verse 2 and you'll see the real meaning of the word is, to become or became. What was it before it became formless?

Also in Ezekiel 28 you see the prophet talking of satan in Eden as a glorious angel. In Genesis we see him as the serpent. Was he here before the earth became formless and empty?

14 posted on 09/02/2002 6:46:14 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: Joshua
Look up the word "was" in verse 2 and you'll see the real meaning of the word is, to become or became. What was it before it became formless?

You're pullin' my chain, right? Was is the past tense of is. (For details on the meaning of is, check deposition files of W.J. B. Clinton.)

Also in Ezekiel 28 you see the prophet talking of satan in Eden as a glorious angel. In Genesis we see him as the serpent. Was he here before the earth became formless and empty?

You tell me. So far you haven't offered anything that suggests man was on the earth prior to Adam. (You have caused me to doubt your sanity, however.)

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15 posted on 09/02/2002 7:35:52 PM PDT by JCG
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To: JCG
Gen 1:2 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. (NIV)

Gen 19:26 26 But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt. (NIV)

The word "was" in Gen 1:2 and the word "became" in Gen 19:26 are the same word (hayah).

" Strongs definition 1961 hayah (haw-yaw); a primitive root [compare 1933]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass . "

Like W.J.B. Clinton, you might be spending to much time pulling your own chain ;)

16 posted on 09/02/2002 8:41:06 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: tallhappy; strela; All
tallhappy wrote to Waterdragon: "Huh? Why the excerpt and link? Why not post the whole thing."

That's a good question, tallhappy, and I appreciate the chance to comment on it.

First of all, without the articles from newspapers and magazines that we post here, FR would be pretty dull. I like the Vanity Posts, but am glad they aren't all we have to rely on.

The articles and columns from publications provide us news, information and opinions about the news constantly. We're lucky that there's a whole bunch of beaver writers out there, combing the news themselves, talking to officials, interviewing 'sources,' exchanging information with writers from other countries,attending news conferences, researching Congressional records and getting inside info on the federal bureaucracies. For many of these writers, this is their full-time job.

The Bible says the workman is worthy of his hire. He deserves to get paid for his product. Well, so do the newspapers and magazines that publish online for us. Their income is based on people clicking into the original source of an article that interests us.

The whole concept of conservatism is private property ownership....we own something, we use it to generate income for ourselves. Writers own their talent and their work (writing isn't easy -- try it! LOL) Publishers own their publications. They want our business -- those clicks which they use to get income from advertisers. Beautiful CAPITALISM, which our enemy, the left, HATES!

We honor conservatism, capitalism, and the work of writers and publishers, when we post 'excerpts' and a link to the original article, at Free Republic.

The forums could not exist without these writers and publishers. They are our meat and drink. We like them or not; we agree with them or not; we argue, debate, and disprove their statements, or add more information. We are brilliant about that! That is conservatism.

There's a copyright law (like the laws that say our employers can't decide not to pay us) because writers and publishers make their living feeding our appetite for information and opinion. Here's a quote from an editor: "Under the Fair Practice Standard, substantial portions of copyrighted text may be reproduced by another media outlet (newspaper, magazine, radio or TV news show, internet publication like Insight Magazine) for the purposes of editorial commentary.

"Free Republic is a discussion forum, not a publicaton. It is against the law to publish the entire text of a publication."

As conservatives, we believe in "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." Happiness is private property ownership because that is the very foundation of all of our liberties. Only when we respect each others' property rights (including intellectual rights) are we able to protect our own property rights.

And that is also the way we honor Jim Robinson, who provides this discussion forum, for which I personally am very grateful!

17 posted on 09/02/2002 10:16:05 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Huh?
18 posted on 09/03/2002 7:41:21 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: blackie; madfly; Billie
bttt!
19 posted on 09/03/2002 9:07:42 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: tallhappy
Why the excerpt for this one.

Your answer is not consistent. Your response indicates every post should be an excerpt.

20 posted on 09/03/2002 9:28:11 AM PDT by tallhappy
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