November 19 - Jesus Calls for Saving Faith

GracetoYou.org ^ | 2008 | John MacArthur, Grace Community Church

[metmom]

“‘Come to Me . . .’” (Matthew 11:28).

Although infinitely beyond human comprehension, God’s sovereignty and human responsibility are inseparable in salvation. God sovereignly provides the grace that draws sinners, but they must humbly come in faith and commit to obey the Lord Jesus before salvation becomes complete. Christ makes this clear when He says, “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out” (John 6:37).

Redemption comes not through human creed, denominational preferences, favorite rituals, certain pastors, priests, or theological gurus—but only through the atoning work of Jesus Christ. When He says “Come to Me,” it means we must come to Him having trusted in His substitutionary death and having reached the point of willingness to submit to His lordship. The Lord teaches, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst” (John 6:35). Coming to Jesus means believing in Him, and that results in no longer hungering or thirsting from a lack of salvation’s blessings.

Jesus gave this summary of salvation, which includes the most well-known verse in Scripture: “Even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life” (John 3:14–16).

Ask Yourself

There are so many internal squabbles over the actual transaction of salvation. But can’t we all agree that no one is saved unless Jesus does it—and that no one is given salvation unless the person receives it? May we be more concerned about men than we are about talks and meetings.

[fproy2222]

Thank you for responding.

To boil it down,
I must follow Christ.
I have to wait for God to give me the desire to follow Christ.

[metmom]

If you don’t have the desire to follow Christ, then what are you doing on the RF?

And are you looking for an excuse to blame God if you’re not saved?

Like *Gee, God, You never gave me the desire to.*???

[fproy2222]

Sorry, just using myself as an example of someone using your teachings.

I will try again:

To boil it down,
You must follow Christ.
You had to wait for God to give you the desire to follow Christ.

[metmom]

Your wording is problematic.

You can’t think *I want to follow Christ but I must wait for God to give me the desire to*, because the very fact that you had the thought means that God has already given you the desire to.

The person who is not being drawn by God doesn’t even entertain the thought of wanting to follow Christ.

So there’s no waiting to be given the desire.

Waiting implies that the desire is already there, and if it’s there, it’s because God already gave it to you.

[fproy2222]

Thank you for your clarification.

[Elsie]

Thank you for your clarification.

This stuff will ALL be clear; when we meet up on Level Two of Mormon Heaven someday.

[Elsie]

Sorry, just using myself as an example of someone using your teachings.

It is easier than trying to follow MORMON teachings!!

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What's for dinner?

 

D&C 49:18-19  18 And whoso forbiddeth to abstain from meats, that man should not eat the same, is not ordained of God; 19 For, behold, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and that which cometh of the earth, is ordained for the use of man for food and for raiment, and that he might have in abundance.

D&C 89:12-13  12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly; 13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.

 

 

 

It must be tough; being a Mormon.   Having to face Scripture that state two opposing ideas and somehow managing to believe BOTH of them!  It's no WONDER that Utah leads in Prozac usage!

 

 

 

[fproy2222]

Elsie,
Do you believe what metmom taught here?
Or do you follow a different God than metmom’s?

[ShackledNoMore]

It has been and will forever be JESUS. Only Him.

He was born in an obscure village,
The child of a peasant woman.
He grew up in still another village,
Where he worked in a carpenter shop
Until he was thirty.

Then for three years
He was an itinerant preacher.
He never wrote a book.
He never held an office.
He never had a family or owned a house.
He didn’t go to college.
He never visited a big city.
He never traveled two hundred miles
From the place where he was born.
He did none of the things
One usually associates with greatness.
He had no credentials but himself.

He was only thirty-three
When the tide of public opinion turned against him.
His friends ran away.
He was turned over to his enemies.
And went through the mockery of a trial.

He was nailed to a cross
Between two thieves.
While he was dying,
His executioners gambled for his clothing,
The only property he had on Earth.
When he was dead,
He was laid in a borrowed grave
Through the pity of a friend.

Twenty centuries have come and gone,
And today he is the central figure
Of the human race,
And the leader of mankind’s progress.

All the armies that ever marched,
All the navies that ever sailed,
All the parliament that ever sat,
All the kings that ever reigned,
Put together have not affected
The life of man on Earth
As much as that
One Solitary Life.

(By Dr James Allen Francis)

[Elsie]

Elsie,
Do you believe what metmom taught here?
Or do you follow a different God than metmom’s?

Fproy2222;
Do you believe both D&C 49:18-19 and D&C 89:12-13?
Or just one of them??
Surely not NEITHER of them; right???

[Elsie]

Metmom;
Do you see how a Mormon 'apologist' will try to use YOUR words against you; and yet will NEVER try to justify the ramblings of Joseph Smith?

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Repeat LDS theology back at them.

Make them either justify it; prove it; or slink away from the field of battle.

[fproy2222]

Elsie, YOU are the intruder here. YOU added a new subject. Than YOU get upset if we do not play YOUR games.

[fproy2222]

Elsie,

MORE questions instead of answers.

Look over there, away from you.

[metmom]

I have noticed the trolling.

However, the Gospel is being presented and that alone increases culpability.

[metmom]

[Elsie]

Elsie, YOU are the intruder here. YOU added a new subject. Than YOU get upset if we do not play YOUR games.

Ha ha!

Come knock on my door sometime. Then we'll talk of games.

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BTW, Ol' Joe was the intruder; back in the day.

And the poor saps who have believed the bunk he camp up with, are blindly following him still.

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...and so forth.

[Elsie]

Your umbrage is noted.

[Elsie]

 

 

You are doing a GOOD job channeling the American Moses!

 

 

 

 

 

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[Elsie]

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[Elsie]

One theory is that Mormons indulge in the gelatin simply because they have to abstain from alcohol, coffee, and tea.

I don't know HOW this EVER got into the minds of Mormons; since their Scriptures do NOT say this at all!

Why is it that this gentile seems to know more of their scripture than THEY do?

Maybe I care enough to post it for all to see...

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