Posted on 04/22/2018 11:48:52 AM PDT by Hostage
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Problem Solved
https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubpdfs/manda.pdf
Mandatory Reporters of Child Abuse and Neglect
What’s Inside
Professionals required to report
Reporting by other persons
Institutional responsibility to report
Standards for making a report
Privileged communications
Inclusion of reporter’s name in the report
Disclosure of reporter’s identity
Summaries of State laws
To find statute information for a particular State, go to:
https://www.childwelfare.gov/topics/systemwide/laws-policies/state/
My Daughters egg donor called CPS on me Twice, I won and got Full Custody and she got Monitored visitation at MY discretion. this was 23 years ago
Judges tend to have favorite child therapists that they trust. This is necessary as their are a lot of bad therapists out there who have no grasp of the reality of life.
I usually find out who the judges favorite is and hire them for opinions in divorce cases where I see a problem.
Your being cautious is wise. If necessary, use a school counselor as a third party to report problems in order to keep you in the clear.
Washington State
Professionals Required to Report
Rev. Code § 26.44.030
The following persons are required to report:
• Practitioners, county coroners, or medical examiners
• Law enforcement officers
• Professional school personnel
• Registered or licensed nurses, social service counselors, psychologists, or pharmacists
• Employees of the Department of Early Learning
• Licensed or certified child care providers or their employees
• Employees of the Department of Social and Health Services
• Juvenile probation officers
• Placement and liaison specialists, responsible living skills program staff, or HOPE center staff
• State family and children’s ombudsman or any volunteer in the ombudsman’s office
• Persons who supervise employees or volunteers who train, educate, coach, or counsel children or have regular unsupervised
access to children
• Department of Corrections personnel
• Any adult with whom a child resides
• Guardians ad litem and court-appointed special advocates
The reporting requirement also applies to administrative and academic or athletic department employees, including student
employees, of public and private institutions of higher education.
Reporting by Other Persons
Rev. Code § 26.44.030
Any person who has reasonable cause to believe that a child has suffered abuse or neglect may report.
Institutional Responsibility to Report
This issue is not addressed in the statutes reviewed.
Standards for Making a Report
Rev. Code § 26.44.030
A report is required when:
• A reporter has reasonable cause to believe that a child has suffered abuse or neglect.
• Any person, in his or her official supervisory capacity with a nonprofit or for-profit organization, has reasonable cause to
believe that a child has suffered abuse or neglect caused by a person over whom he or she regularly exercises supervisory
authority.
• Department of Corrections personnel observe offenders or the children with whom the offenders are in contact, and as a
result of these observations have reasonable cause to believe that a child has suffered abuse or neglect.
• Any adult has reasonable cause to believe that a child who resides with them has suffered severe abuse.
Privileged Communications
Rev. Code §§ 26.44.030; 26.44.060
No one shall be required to report when he or she obtains the information solely as a result of a privileged communication.
Information considered privileged by statute and not directly related to reports required by this section must not be divulged without a valid written waiver of the privilege.
Conduct conforming with reporting requirements shall not be deemed a violation of the confidential communication privilege of §§ 5.60.060 (3) and (4) [pertaining to clergy-penitent and physician-patient privilege], 18.53.200 [pertaining to optometrist-patient privilege], and 18.83.110 [pertaining to psychologist-client privilege].
Inclusion of Reporter’s Name in Report
Rev. Code § 26.44.030
The department shall make reasonable efforts to learn the name, address, and telephone number of the reporter.
Disclosure of Reporter Identity
Rev. Code § 26.44.030
The department shall provide assurances of appropriate confidentiality of the identification of persons reporting under this section.
Washington State
No one shall be required to report when he or she obtains the information solely as a result of a privileged communication.
Information considered privileged by statute and not directly related to reports required by this section must not be divulged without a valid written waiver of the privilege.
Children taken out of abusive homes tended to go into far more abusive foster homes, for one. My wife, who taught LD kids for 35 years reached the same conclusions independently.She fulfilled the legal requirements as a teacher but felt strong misgivings doing so as too many reports to authorities resulted in worse situations for the affected child.
In a more recent situation I thought a child was indeed in immediate danger of his life and called police with evidence and nothing at all happened. The husband a year later shot his wife in front of the then two children and is now on death row at Raiford.
It can’t. Anyone with credentials to whom you might go is required to report to “authorities” if they suspect child abuse. Anyone without credentials cannot be used in court other than as a character witness. Such don’t usually have any value in the courtroom.
If he doesn’t report it, he is just as guilty as the abuser. I know, it sucks, my son went through all this stuff
Thanks for that information. It was very interesting and pertinent. Prayers for the kids you tried to protect. The system is a travesty.
That fits with the observation that has reached the level of maxim that the most dangerous person an a young child’s life is a mother’s boyfriend.
This is the best information.
That’s lawyers and priests.
“priests.”
Or clergy... Many “Christian Counselors” are “Pastoral Counselors” that may fall into this category. It’s different in each state.
“the most dangerous person an a young child’s life is a mother’s boyfriend.”
Especially if you have a daughter!!!
Yes, a lawyer, not any sort of “family counselor.”
In some states, even pastors are required to report such abuse. The father needs to get back to reality and allow the process to complete its course. I'm astonished the father didn't report the abuse himself. Too many kids are killed by 'boyfriends'.
Your friend needs to look at it from the point of view of the counselor he took his boy to. If state law requires counselors or doctors to report suspected abuse, then this counselor may have legal liability if the boy is later injured or killed. The state, and media, will come down very hard on anyone who knows, or even suspects abuse, but does nothing.
As a Christian, besides the legal, financial liability to him and his organization, this counselor may also feel a strong moral urge to act also. He who knows of evil, but does nothing, is guilty of the sin by omission
Moreover, what is your friend’s logic for not wanting the counselor to report this abuse? If this counselor has admission from the child - then WHY would your friend do nothing while his child is abused by another man??? Morever, such 3rd party documentation is what he was seeking earlier, was it not? It will only help your friend’s case in getting custody and control of his son.
I think he’s doing just what you described. He really is a responsible good parent from my view.
But here’s the problem.
A family court apparently gets allegations thrown about all the time and it’s not always easy to know who’s telling the truth.
The father in this story wanted to get evidence before getting an atty and going to court. He thought it would be less risky by going to a ‘Christian’ service. But the state controls Christian services the same as any other counseling service.
To me, it’s a chicken and egg problem, what comes first?
Your idea to get an atty is a good one but there is still a risk that going to court without evidence can mean the court will appoint an evaluator who will investigate both homes. The father in this case absolutely does not trust court evaluators any more than CPS investigators.
Congrats, you came out surviving and apparently doing the right thing.
I don’t know the CPS situation well enough to say that all CPS everywhere are the same.
The father in this story is a strong and responsible individual who has apparently been traumatized by what’s he seen with CPS in his jurisdiction. He doesn’t say they are bad people, he says they basically shoot first and ask questions later.
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