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| 03-14-18
| Msgr. Charles Pope
Posted on 04/21/2018 9:30:28 AM PDT by Salvation
Salvation and Church The teaching of no salvation outside the Church is important and one that must rightly be understood
Msgr. Charles Pope
3/14/2018
Question: I hear the Catholic Church teaches there is no salvation outside the Church. This would seem to condemn most to hell. Or am I missing something? — Name, location withheld
Answer: It is in fact a doctrine of the Church often repeated by the Fathers of the Church and taught formally. However, it must be understood properly.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church has this to say by way of explanation:
“‘Outside the Church there is no Salvation.’ ... Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church ... is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence, they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church” (CCC, Nos. 846-847).
This much is sure: Whoever is in heaven was saved by Jesus Christ in and through his Body the Church. But, as we know, there are many barriers to people fully understanding that the Church is the sole and necessary means for salvation, and thus, simply being outside the Church usually does not alone bring condemnation.
God can and, it would seem, does draw others unto himself in ways not always known to us. All of this can console us and bring an understanding that the teaching “outside the Church there is no salvation” is not understood absolutely.
But this consolation must not be the source of letting our missionary zeal wane. While it is possible to be saved beyond the Church, sacraments and explicit faith in Christ, it is much more difficult. Consider the following teaching from the Second Vatican Council:
“Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. ... But often men, deceived by the Evil One, have become vain in their reasonings and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, serving the creature rather than the Creator (cf. Rom 1:21, 25). Or some there are who, living and dying in this world without God, are exposed to final despair. Wherefore to promote the glory of God and procure the salvation of all of these, and mindful of the command of the Lord, ‘Preach the Gospel to every creature’ (Mk 16:16), the Church fosters the missions with care and attention” (Lumen Gentium, No. 16).
And therefore, we see that people often are deceived or let themselves be deceived. So, the fact that people can be saved apart from the Church is not a blank check or presumption that they likely will be saved. It must always be our earnest work to evangelize, for many “prefer the darkness” (see Jn 3:19).
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To: Mom MD
The problem is he is reading his own special translation of the Bible, not the words that you and I read when we read those passages. Almost every cult rejects standard translations of the Bible and institute their own to support their twisted doctrine.
He also has a secret language, secret history, secret knowledge and on and on.
Yep! Its a cult.
To: editor-surveyor
Allow me to keep mocking you relentlessly until you can actually pull out some proof for your anti-Scriptural claims. You know, like God ALWAYS did in Scripture.
And again, the voices in your head aren’t proof.
562
posted on
04/25/2018 6:35:40 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: aMorePerfectUnion; Mom MD
Don’t forget that the Gospel of Matthew was allegedly originally written in Hebrew, of which Rood has a secret copy that he won’t share with anyone or anyone else is allowed to see.
I guess we’ll just have to take his word for it, too.
Like the fraud who claims to have seen the ark.
563
posted on
04/25/2018 7:04:14 PM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: aMorePerfectUnion
To: aMorePerfectUnion
Good one bro. 👍
565
posted on
04/25/2018 7:11:09 PM PDT
by
Mark17
(Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
To: aMorePerfectUnion
Five days already.
My time flies.
You were supposed to forget about that unanswered question in that amount of time, you know.
566
posted on
04/25/2018 7:19:38 PM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: metmom
Maybe Rood keeps it hidden under that fakey rabbi wannabe costume he wears?
567
posted on
04/25/2018 9:11:33 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
To: editor-surveyor
Oh please. I know all about ‘The Way International’ and Rood’s involvement in it.
You’re the sick one for following a guy who learned at the knee of serial rapists.
568
posted on
04/26/2018 7:22:19 AM PDT
by
Luircin
To: editor-surveyor; Mom MD
. The question is not who will gather, but who will free them from the inherited liess of christianity so that they can find Yeshuas narrow path. Its definitely is not the sea of iniquity that we know as christianity. Why don't you elucidate on what all those "lies of Christianity" are? Can you do that without sending folks to Rood's videos?
569
posted on
04/26/2018 1:51:34 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
To: Luircin
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You just proved that you know about nothing.
Your hatred of the word, and Yehova’s appointed teachers glows in the dark!
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570
posted on
04/26/2018 1:53:19 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Luircin
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Scripture is not “anti-scriptural.
Capiche?
It is scripture that you rail against.
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571
posted on
04/26/2018 1:54:45 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: boatbums
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The lies are the deliberate misreading of scripture, Like “Saved by Grace” instead of by grace are you saved through Faith.
Or using the apostles attack on the false law of the Pharisees as an attack on the covenant that they all preached.
Or ignoring the obvious fact that Acts 15 is a study on how to teach Torah to new believers.
Insanity squared!
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572
posted on
04/26/2018 2:00:49 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: All; Steelfish
Awaiting Steelfish's List of +2,000 "protestant theologians that converted to catholicism" placemarker
To: Mom MD
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The Renewed Covenent is the old covenant made perfect in sinless blood as Jeremiah and John made plain.
There is no call for a “rapture” in scripture.
As Yeshua taught Nicodemus, we will be reborn as newly created sons of Yehova, not as corruptible biological begotten sons of men. That is what saves us when the material universe ceases to exist.
John 3:
[8] The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
You apparently have no idea what gnosis is.
574
posted on
04/26/2018 2:14:57 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: MHGinTN
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If you have a point to make, make it!
Telling me to read something is not going to cause me to misread it as you do.
I thought you used to teach?
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575
posted on
04/26/2018 2:19:25 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: editor-surveyor
are you into gnosticism now? I cannot keep up with your heresies. You apparently have no regard for Scripture that is not interpreted through the lens of your guru. Christ Himself instituted the new Covenant and called it just that - the New Covenant. Your are arguing with Christ - not a position I would want to take.
576
posted on
04/26/2018 2:46:23 PM PDT
by
Mom MD
( .)
To: editor-surveyor; Mom MD
The lies are the deliberate misreading of scripture, Like Saved by Grace instead of by grace are you saved through Faith. There is no getting around the fact that Scripture DOES say we are saved by the grace of God and NOT by our works - of course it is through faith that we appropriate that grace and receive the gift of God which is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. You are nitpicking something that NOBODY has actually claimed!
But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life. (Titus 3:4-7)
Or using the apostles attack on the false law of the Pharisees as an attack on the covenant that they all preached.
Only it WASN'T the "false law of the Pharisees" that Paul preached against but the false and accursed gospel that obeying the Law of Moses could impart righteousness
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. (Galatians 5:2-6)
When one seeks to establish his own righteousness by the law or any other kinds of works of righteousness, he is FALLEN from grace.
Or ignoring the obvious fact that Acts 15 is a study on how to teach Torah to new believers. Insanity squared!
Here is what Acts 15 says was the problem that initiated the council of Jerusalem:
But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. (Acts 15:5)
The "law of Moses" means THE LAW OF MOSES. This sect was trying to force the Gentiles to be circumcised ACCORDING TO the Law of Moses in addition to keeping the Law in order to be justified. How is your teacher saying anything different than these first century dividers?
577
posted on
04/26/2018 3:08:54 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
To: editor-surveyor
Nope, totally antiScriptural garbage is what Rood teaches. Whole bunch of garbage. Claims to be according to the Bible and then contradicts entire books of it.
And your evidence-less whining can’t change that.
578
posted on
04/26/2018 3:38:05 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: Mom MD
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>> “are you into gnosticism now? “ <<
Obviously not, but all who say “Saved by Grace” most certainly are!
Yeshua Renewed his covenant, and he never called it new.
Acts 15 teaches how those that come to sojourn with Israel are to learn Torah ( that thing that Yeshua said was for as long as the material creation exists in Matthew 5)
Paul equated “his Gospel” with Moses Gospel in Hebrews. How do you suppose that could be if anything but the blood were changed?
How could Jeremiah be wrong and still be a prophet? He mentioned only The house of Judah and The House of Israel, and mentioned no imaginary ‘church.’
How can Paul and James say not hearers but doers of the law will be justified?
All of the word has to agree; one book cannot contradict another, but your way makes it all contradictions.
The human invention called “the church” is the mystery of iniquity.
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579
posted on
04/26/2018 3:39:06 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: editor-surveyor
Prove that you’re an appointed teacher, Rood.
And the voices in your head, again, are not proof.
580
posted on
04/26/2018 3:40:04 PM PDT
by
Luircin
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