Posted on 09/16/2017 1:21:07 PM PDT by ebb tide
The group "Spezzare il pane" ("Breaking the Bread") in the archdiocese of Turin, Italy, has officially started with the celebration of "ecumenical masses" where Holy Communion is distributed to Catholics and non-Catholics.
The group is headed by Father Fredo Oliviero, an apologist for illegal immigration, who has the support of his archbishop, Monsignor Cesare Nosiglia. The practice of the group to distribute Holy Communion to non-Catholics, is openly promoted in the newspaper of Turin Archdiocese "La Voce e il Tempo".
Among the members of the group are "Catholics", Anglicans, Baptists, Waldensians and Lutherans. They gather once a month in one of their churches, where they celebrate a "Eucharist" according to the respective denomination, distributing "Communion" to everybody.
According to Fra Cristoforo, writing on maurizioblondet.it, these abuses are recommended by Pope Francis. Archbishop Nosiglia is informed about them but does not intervene. The future goal is to spread such gatherings to other Italian cities.
Distributing Holy Communion to people who do not share the Catholic Faith and have not previously confessed their sins, profanes the Holy Species, leads the participants to condemnation, and promotes superstition.
I'll bet that just sticks in their craw. 😀😆😄🇵🇭
Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
Thank you Caped Crusader!
Can’t tell.
None seem to want to talk about it on FR.
I wonder how it goes during FHE; knowing that the ‘Forever Family’ will be split apart for eternity?
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I personally tend to believe that it’s both of the above!
And indeed you were before your Biblical "day of salvation," but with the old emphasis on guilt and perpetual penance even for past sins done before conversion (while modern Rome basically sends Teddy K Catholics off to glory), it is no wonder you were convinced I was going to Hell:
From a Traditional RC site:
Properly viewed, having a perpetual reminder of one’s misdeeds in the form of public “shunning,” is not cruel, but rather in itself a great mercy to the woman who might thereby bewail her sins for the rest of her life.
This is what the first Pope of the Church did all his life, after the Passion. It is a solid tradition that there were caverns under the eyes of St. Peter caused by the tears that he shed every day for his public thrice denial of Christ. St. Mary Magdalene spent the last decades of her life as a hermit in a cave doing penance for her past sins. — http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/k011rpUnwedMothers_Stretenovic.html
‘Twil soon be that season; ya’ll.
Where grown men chase an odd shaped brown ball.
She’s not a Watusi;
(that snatcher called Lucy)
Poor Charlie: again will he fall.
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BOOOOOOOOOO.
You may have my reluctant applause; that’s gonna be sticking in my mind all day. *Snicker*
That’s a shame to believe in since Lutheran “priests” cannot effect a valid consecration.
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Says the man who worships a church that installed a sodomite-enabling communist Pontiff.
Might want to take that beam out of your own eye before examining for specks.
McGowan has confirmed that he was a (unscriptural ) Catholic priest, at least a long time ago. It is up to him to confirm that that he claims that status today, which is relevant to the issues here since his statements would be expected to carry more weight with Catholics, at least with those who believe they are to basically be docile sheep who submit to their pastors, and do not engage in public dispute or contradiction of teaching which requires religious (at least) assent, which includes encyclicals. Of course, if a priest engages in such himself...
Blessings on your head!
Actually, being a priest, his would be the only “authorized” voice of Catholics on these forums...if he’s a priest...or ever was.
God's blessings to you and to your bandwidth!
There is a third sense, though, and that is sacramental. That is not somewhere between metaphorical or literal, so to speak, but somewhere beyond them: more meaningful than what is merely metaphorical, more real than what is merely literal. This is why Our Lord calls His Body "real food" and His Blood "real drink."
"Real" (or some translations say "true") is in contrast to what? In contrast to both metaphorical and literal.
This euchastisric Body and Blood of His are so real, they are real on every Catholic altar and in every Catholic tabernacle in the world, and in the very body--- yes, body to Body --- of His servants who receive Him.
Body to Body. Soul to Soul. Heart to Heart.
Priceless Gift. Beyond what we can comprehend.
Think of that.
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This presumes imposing the existence of such a thing as "sacramental sense" upon Scripture, which does not exist.
There are other options.
1. Metaphorical sense, "I am the door."
2. Real sense, literally He gave them his flesh, dripping with blood (Scripture doesn't record that this was anything except elements used in the Passover meal).
3. Spiritual presence
4. One-off event that was real in some sense at that moment, but is only "done in memory" until He returns.
5. Etc.
I don't worship "a church". I worship God.
I don’t worship “a church”. I worship God.
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Well how about that; so do I.
Then what’s with being part of an organization whose leadership shows almost nothing but hatred for the Lord then?
I'm not part of any organization. I'm only a poor sinner who is a member of the One, True Church founded by Jesus Christ. And I am very grateful for this.
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