Posted on 05/23/2017 3:21:59 PM PDT by metmom
Is Sister Christian sitting next to you in Sunday service a closet New Ager? Is your pastor tapping into new spirituality? Are you believing a new thought lie?
I was simply shocked to read the results of a new Barna study that shows only 17 percent of Christians who consider their faith important and attend church regularly actually have a biblical worldview. But I was decidedly dismayed by the subsequent revelations in the report.
In a nutshell, Barna found many Christians strongly agree with worldviews that compete with biblical teachings. In other words, many believers are believing flat out lies. Consider these startling stats about practicing Christians:
38 percent are sympathetic to some Muslim teachings
61 percent agree with ideas rooted in new spirituality
54 percent resonate with postmodernist views
36 percent accept ideas associated with Marxism
29 percent believe ideas based on secularism
(Excerpt) Read more at charismanews.com ...
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Being miserable is more likely to bring us closer to Yehova.
Being wealthy definitely puts distance between us an him.
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Jesus did not know the date when He walked the Earth - He voluntarily limited Himself during that time. I’m sure He knows now, and is looking forward to it more than we are. Maranatha
If you want to ignore the timing verses in the Bible, as the Jewish leaders did for Jesus’ First Coming, then pray it doesn’t turn out for you as it did for them.
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I'm curious. What is it you see happening day after day on Free Republic that proves "Christians Tapping Into New-Age Lies as Great Falling-Away Continues"? Got a few examples?
Just another sign that He is closer to coming back - if Trump actually manages a peace deal we need to consider how close He is to coming back....
Well, maybe the Sneaky Squid Spirit is to blame, right, Jennifer?
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If people wants to believe false teaching what good is it going to do to convert them to another false teaching?
Hinder them not, let them go where they belong.
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>> “Jesus said neither he nor the angels know that date.” <<
No, that is not really what he was saying.
The words he spoke told his disciples that he would return for his elect at Tishri 1.
He didn’t tell them the year, because they had no need to know it, and probably because satan needed to definitely not know it.
No matter what the year will be, the date will be Tishri 1. That is the day that nobody knows until it arrives and we can see the new moon appear faintly in the fading sunset.
That is what he was saying.
When the time is close, we will definitely know within about one day. We don’t know that precisely right now, because the time is not close enough.
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To be sure, by now Satan has a pretty good idea approximately when Yeshua is coming, and he is in a rage about it, as can be seen in world events perpetrated by his servants, Islam in particular.
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>> “What does she mean by the grace message. Grace is central to Christian belief, so I would like to know what she is talking about.” <<
Most Christians want to believe that “Grace” is something that replaces the righteousness of obedience.
They want to believe that they have no need to know and practice the things that Torah teaches.
That is why Matthew 5:17-20 and 7:21-23 are in the word!
(also, John’s first epistle is very clear on this)
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The ‘Grace message ‘ she’s referring to is the one that says you’re free from guilt and able to live a life of freedom and joy.
Now, you’d think that was supposed to be the central theme of the Gospel. Yes, the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus does free you from sin to live life God’s way. But, many do not believe that allows you any freedom to enjoy life. To these people, being a Christian involves a lot of rules. “Don’t do tnis”, “Don’t touch that”, “Don’t watch this”, and so on. They see anyone who believes that grace frees us to live and enjoy life as being ‘libertines’ who use God’s grace as an excuse to sin...because they are not following their rules of how THEY view a Christian is supposed to act.
No, a Christian is not supposed to use their freedom in Christ as an excuse to sin, but we’re also not supposed to be gray-faced sticks in the mud that never enjoy life.
That’s about the best way I can think of to explain it.
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>> “The ‘Grace message ‘ she’s referring to is the one that says you’re free from guilt and able to live a life of freedom and joy.” <<
No, she was speaking about the actual contra-scriptural things that most mainline churches attribute to grace. These are the “inherited lies” spoken of by Jeremiah in ch 16:19.
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It is NOT of human works of any kind, nor of Law keeping.
Law keeping is the teachings of cults, the work of Satan, to enslave people into works rather than depending on grace.
Galatians 2:15-21 We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
But if, in our endeavor to be justified in Christ, we too were found to be sinners, is Christ then a servant of sin? Certainly not! For if I rebuild what I tore down, I prove myself to be a transgressor. For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.
Galatians 3:1-29 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?
Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.
For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.
To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.
Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.
Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.
Ephesians 2:1-10 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.
But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Philippians 3:2-15 Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh. For we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh— though I myself have reason for confidence in the flesh also. If anyone else thinks he has reason for confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to righteousness under the law, blameless. But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ. Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord.
For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith— that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
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The only calendar that matters is the Biblical calendar that begins each year at the Aviv.
That is the calendar that Yehova uses to set his times, not men’s nonsensical sun based systems.
I’d really like to hear your take on this. What contra-scriptural teachings are you referring to?
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There is no “imputed righteousness,” that is the biggest lie of all!
That is why they had no garment to enter the wedding feast in the parable.
Nowhere in scripture is righteousness imputed without obedience.
“Seek ye first the Kingdom of Yehova, and his righteousness (Torah).
This is the purpose of John’s first epistle; people had stopped seeking righteousness in the path that Yeshua demonstrated in his own life.
If any righteousness could be imputed, surely it would have been imputed to his only begotten son, relieving him of following the commandments to invent his own way of enjoying life!
Astounding the foolishness people want to believe!
Yeshua and his apostles lived a life of obedience for nothing? The Acts was written for nothing?
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post 55 is a good example!
Interesting. I believe works and obedience to God are the natural outflow of God’s grace and the gift of salvation. I do not believe we as Christians are bound by Torah as the life, death, and resurrection of Christ creates provision for us that the law alone could not.
This could be a chicken/egg kind of discussion, grace v. works. I do believe grace is the starting point because without it there is nothing I can do to earn or deserve what God in His mercy has done for me through his Son.
Not sure my question about the grace message has been answered. I think it must mean something else unless this woman is simply legalistic in her approach to Christian doctrine.
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