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To: MHGinTN

People who don’t appreciate hierarchy won’t appreciate the Book of Acts or the Epistles, where we see the basic hierarchy of diaconoi - presbyteroi-episcopoi being established by the calling of select men and the laying on of hands; and, as Fr. Pope’s article points out, the calling of authoritative councils and synods.

Tagline, from Matthew — a direct quote from Jesus.


280 posted on 05/28/2017 4:22:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (If they will not listen to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Tagline, from Matthew — a direct quote from Jesus.

And ripped right out of context by YOU!


(If they will not listen to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.)

Mrs. Don-o apparently CHOOSES to give a false imprssion every time she writes:
 
"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus
 
 

Matthew 18:15-17 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA) 

15 But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.

16 And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand.

17 And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.

288 posted on 05/28/2017 8:23:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; MHGinTN
And, as usual, that verse is taken out of context.

The verse about listening to the church in no way establishes it as an ultimate hierarchal system that Rome has become.

That verse is about settling disputes among brothers and the procedure for it.

It does NOT name the Roman Catholic church, or any church for that matter to be the ultimate authority over every believer who must be in subjection to its religious system.

293 posted on 05/29/2017 3:12:21 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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