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Theologian: Shared Communion With Protestants Would be Blasphemy and Sacrilege
National Catholic Register ^ | January 2, 2017 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod

...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would “go against Revelation and the Magisterium”, leading Christians to “commit blasphemy and sacrilege,” an Italian theologian has warned.

Drawing on the Church’s teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.

Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of “open Communion” proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.

The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Father’s own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is “not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.”

The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis’ next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations “in special cases.”

The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Pope’s recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given “a new thrust” to the “ecumenical process.”

Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kasper’s theology whose thinking has significantly influenced…the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.

For Moltmann, Holy Communion is “the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination”...

(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...


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To: Springfield Reformer

...this man went down to his house justified ...


961 posted on 01/17/2017 4:29:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
How do you know those sins were forgiven? Did you get a receipt?

The same question can be asked of Catholics.

How do YOU know?

962 posted on 01/17/2017 4:30:21 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: acapesket
Grace is a gift from God, but you seem kind of Angry.

Back and forth with ET will sometimes do that to a person.

963 posted on 01/17/2017 4:31:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
A blank check, huh? How long is it good for?

YES!!!! You're getting it!!!!

As long as I live in this body and sin.

964 posted on 01/17/2017 4:31:46 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide
Do you think God absolved this Pharisee? If so, how would he have known?

Sometimes it helps to CONTINUE to read the REST of the text that Rome has provided...

It's easy to find, as it is in RED print!

... I tell you, this man went down to his house justified...

965 posted on 01/17/2017 4:34:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
“I confess to Almighty God, and to you father, for the following sins..”

I'd suggest that the father phrase is NOT needed; and perhaps even frowned upon!

...call no man father...

966 posted on 01/17/2017 4:36:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlueDragon
You just called Elsie the devil ...


Aw...  shucks...
 

No problem; as I've been called ugly by a toad before.
967 posted on 01/17/2017 4:39:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

You quoted a lot of scripture but you didn’t prove your point. A difference in gifts does not a priesthood make. When you have an entire book of Scripture devoted to the topic of how the New Covenant is superior to the old, how Jesus is our High Priest and our One Mediator with God, how the priesthood has been set aside because Jesus’ final offer of sacrifice has rendered it obsolete, then yes, I am keen to agree with Scripture that there is no priesthood in the Roman sense.

What evolved in Rome as the new priesthood was a synthesis of Old Covenant and various non-Christian influences. Neoplatonism in particular played a large role in converting the Lord’s Supper from a Passover-like memorial to a quasi-physical consumption of deity, which inherently requires some sort of sacramental priesthood to administer, regardless of Biblical teaching to the contrary.

This is why you can never demonstrate the Roman priesthood from Scripture. It just isn’t there. Leadership roles and various gifts of the Spirit, yes. Sacramental mediation essential to salvation, no. No need. We are all priests. That’s not my idea. That’ comes from Peter himself. Is he wrong?

Peace,

SR


968 posted on 01/17/2017 4:39:21 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: ebb tide; Invincibly Ignorant
Within your rant, I found this most amusing: “willful, invincible ignorance”.

There’s no such thing.

We'll SEE about that!

969 posted on 01/17/2017 4:40:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; ebb tide
"My, how all you heretics flock together."

Elsie, that is a very lovely Getty Images photo you have included in your post to Ebb Tide, but unfortunately no photos from Getty Images are permitted to be posted on Free Republic due to copyright complaints and restrictions imposed upon Free Republic.

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints

970 posted on 01/17/2017 4:43:36 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: ebb tide
When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them:
 
 
Mark 16:14
Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

971 posted on 01/17/2017 4:46:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks for reminding me. I failed to check the source thoroughly.


972 posted on 01/17/2017 4:49:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

LOL. It was written against a sound fund, the supreme richness of the blood of Christ shed for sinners. It will not bounce. You can bank it.

Peace,

SR


973 posted on 01/17/2017 4:53:15 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: ebb tide
Is that questioning a promise from God?

A simple question that I'm sure you'll be proud to answer.


Are the 'promises' of Mary valid or not?


 




The 15 promises

(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)

1 Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces.
2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies
4. It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.
6. Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.
7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise.
9. I  shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.
11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.
12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
13. I  have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death
14. All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
15. Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

 

"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,

no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.

There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."

Sister Lucia dos Santos

974 posted on 01/17/2017 4:54:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlueDragon
The whole thing reeks of snake-den viper-y.


I once knew a snake SO poor...

How POOR was he??

He was SO poor, that he didn't have a pit to hiss in!

975 posted on 01/17/2017 4:56:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
How do you know that?

The book that Rome assembled says so.

976 posted on 01/17/2017 4:57:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: acapesket

True... and a Rabbi. Which is why it’s so sad that since about 80-100 A.D. the church disconnected itself from it’s roots in Judaism and lost touch with the teachings of God to his people.


977 posted on 01/17/2017 4:59:12 AM PST by high info voter (Liberal leftists would have "un-friended" Paul Revere!)
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To: BlueDragon
Before you ask myself questions, expecting me to answer those, it's only fair to say to you that you are running quite a backlog of needing answer questions which I have put to you.

HUMMMPHT!

I don't ANSWER questions; I ASK them!!

978 posted on 01/17/2017 5:01:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlueDragon
The question Jesus asked, or the ones about your possibly holding printed receipts?

PRINTED??



979 posted on 01/17/2017 5:04:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
You owe acapesket an apology for your rude and disrespectful retort.

 
 
 

980 posted on 01/17/2017 5:13:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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