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Should Islam Be Banned from America?
Rapture Ready ^ | 12/1/2016 | Dan Payne

Posted on 12/02/2016 12:09:22 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

As it relates to religious liberty in the United States of America, here is the famous portion of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

Many people extrapolate from the Establishment Clause a total prohibition of anything remotely associated with the Christian God from all branches of local, state, and federal government. Of course, the Christian God of the Holy Bible is the primary target of those who proudly tout the “Separation of Church and State.” Other religions seem to avoid the kind of scrutiny received by the Cross of Christ.

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: america; banned; islam; yes
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Mohammedanism should be banned. It is wrong about theology, philosophy, economics, science, history, psychology,and everything else. It is evil because it contradicts reality, and American ideals and identity, and is repulsive to reason and rationality. It fails the well-formedness criteria: the ratio of benefits to harm, and the ratio of benefits to cost. And it fails the standard of value of life and well-being.


21 posted on 12/02/2016 12:44:13 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

No. The concept of Sharia Law should be. Imams need college level education in theology at an accredited U.S college or university.


22 posted on 12/02/2016 12:44:17 PM PST by Fhios
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

How many different ways can I say “YES”?

And before anyone starts any jabber about religious freedom ask yourself this: if I concocted a “religion” that venerated Adolph Hitler as a deity, demanded that its adherents set fire to any dwelling occupied by non-believers, and authorized the rape and murder of blond-haired girls, would that be protected under the First Amendment?

What about if my new religion denied the authority of civil law, implemented its own taxation scheme, and openly plotted the overthrow of the government? Would that be okay?

How about if numerous groups of disciples acted on those beliefs and spawned myriad acts of horrific violence?


23 posted on 12/02/2016 12:47:28 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Should Islam Be Banned from America?

YES!

24 posted on 12/02/2016 12:48:49 PM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Should Islam Be Banned from America?

It should be banned from the planet.

25 posted on 12/02/2016 12:49:32 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

To ban Islam, one has to clearly define “religion” and it’s limits. Islam is not like other “religions” as we understand it. Islam is a TOTAL SUPREMACIST belief SYSTEM with it’s own set of laws, and it’s political components contradict all non-Islamic political entities, Therefore, Islam should not and cannot be classified as a ‘religion’. Once “religion” is defined to exclude all political and legal elements, limiting our nation’s legal recognition to faith as it is practiced without politics or legal ramifications which could/do contradict the US Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and the Golden Rule - only then can Islam be banned.


26 posted on 12/02/2016 12:49:58 PM PST by wtd
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Ban adherance to or promotion of sharia, and you make it clear that it’s a political system

This is the insoluble contradiction. Leftists like exposing "contradictions" so make sure this one is exposed. Muslims, particularly the political ones like CAIR will claim Sharia is "religion" and claim 1st Amendment protections. At the same time, any true Islamic preacher will declare Sharia supreme and above any national Constitution.

I believe this is how to frame the debate regarding a serious restriction of Muslim immigration.

27 posted on 12/02/2016 1:00:27 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yes. Just like open Christianity is banned in Saudi Arabia, Islam should be banned in America. No mosques, no headbags, no special 5x/day prayer at work, nothing. We could just call it a reciprocal agreement.


28 posted on 12/02/2016 1:03:16 PM PST by blackbetty59
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To: IronJack

The difference is-
ACTS and even some speech encouraging the acts *can* be banned. Merely concocting a new religion, no matter how silly or repulsive and writing about it can’t be.

You would be quite free to write the manifesto for such a religion, however acting on it or encouraging others to do so would and should be punishable.

FWIW, I know several Atheists. they, to a person, dislike Islam as much or more than Christianity or Judaism.

One would be quite free to say ‘This is what God told me’ and follow it with any sorts of heinous nonsense; saying ‘I think this is what you should do” opens one to legal culpability.

At least if I remember Constitutional Law from decades ago.


29 posted on 12/02/2016 1:04:33 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Damn Skippy !!!
YES !!!


30 posted on 12/02/2016 1:05:51 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Own a rifle. Be an American.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It should, and it won’t be. As long as 99.87% of the people think it’s a religion, it won’t be. They believe in freedom of religion.

Hey people! We don’t care about the religious part! We don’t care that you go to services on Friday, and that you bow down and kiss a rug.
We care about the fact that you chop heads off and rape women.


31 posted on 12/02/2016 1:06:24 PM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Hell yes


32 posted on 12/02/2016 1:13:47 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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To: FrankR

“Just don’t officially recognize it as a religion, a Constitutional problem solved”

I think your suggestion is the best approach, argument should be made that any group that claims to be a “Religion” and practices terrorism is disqualified.


33 posted on 12/02/2016 1:16:56 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

ban, yes

Great article. It’s all very simple but our society is suicidal.


34 posted on 12/02/2016 1:26:27 PM PST by old-ager
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To: FrankR

Islam is not recognized as a religion in Italy.


35 posted on 12/02/2016 1:29:41 PM PST by x_plus_one
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To: Disambiguator

Our “leaders” in government are both unwilling and unable to do that.

I would say,”...have been unwilling...”.
Now, maybe that will change.


36 posted on 12/02/2016 1:32:45 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yes. Islam has NOTHING to do with religion.


37 posted on 12/02/2016 1:34:35 PM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

First of all, islam is not a religion, it is a cult of personality. It should be viewed in the same light as Nazism.


38 posted on 12/02/2016 1:37:58 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Right!!!!

And free Republika Srpska, too!!!! (By the way this is exactly the opposite of what Hillary wanted to do if elected President!)

And for goodness sakes, don’t import any more muslims into the USA!!!!


39 posted on 12/02/2016 1:40:38 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: AlaskaErik

I agree. If the Nazis called themselves a religion in WW2, we’d all be speaking German.

Can you yell fire in a crowded theater <-— Why not?

Islam is a threat to the safety and future survival of an entire country. You make your choice brethren.


40 posted on 12/02/2016 1:48:57 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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