You are blind. Our entire civilization is crumbling in our folly and impiety.
Lots of things we find in the early church period are missing today, and it has nothing to do with us. Nothing.
You see what you want to see, not what is.
Posted on 10/25/2016 7:47:21 AM PDT by ebb tide
Catholicism ...
it’s “whatever”.
Is Kasper a heretic? Yes, Period.
You’re wrong.
obama is president. You’re American. Are you “whatever”?
do you cower and give up so easily?
We catholics will find the most conservative bishop and start a revolution of our own.
Oh, and BTW, if hillary wins, all the Catholic bashers are gonna have a #### of a lot more to worry about than their inane fixation on the Catholic church.
We didn’t even GET to pick our leader.
Americans DID!!
That makes Americans WORSE than Catholics.
But not estranged from the teachings of Jesus Christ as related by the Holy Bible. Divorce from a valid marriage and then remarriage is adultery. The world and reality doesn't change that.
What is the problem with this?
My wife and I have communion at home. It is a very simple thing that Jesus told us to do and, as often as we do it, to do it in remembrance of Him.
You don’ need to be in a church to do it.
Jesus said “Do this in memory of me”.
No conditions were added, no ‘confession’ requred, no limitations applied excluding those who have sinned.
Well, then, I want my $2000 dollars back for the annulment we recently paid for (after being married to one another for 35+ years). We didn’t have to go through all that ridiculous paperwork - with very personal, insulting questions, then the 3.5 year wait, but in the eyes of the Church it “used to be” a sin not to. However, when I look at the communion lines at Mass, I would bet that more than 1/2 of the people receiving were divorced without ever being granted an annulment.
No conditions were added, no ‘confession’ requred, no limitations applied excluding those who have sinned.
St Paul disagrees with you and he was instructed by Christ Himself.
1 Cor 11:27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Examine yourselves, and only then eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgment against themselves. 30 For this reason many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. 31 But if we judged ourselves, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged by the Lord, we are disciplined so that we may not be condemned along with the world.
33 So then, my brothers and sisters, when you come together to eat, wait for one another. 34 If you are hungry, eat at home, so that when you come together, it will not be for your condemnation. About the other things I will give instructions when I come.
+1.
The context has them not “discerning the body” by gluttoning, getting drunk and missing the purpose of the meal. The warning to examine cannot be teased out into other sins.
Also, where is the attendant judgment today? Where is the DEATH, i.e. “falling asleep”? Should be dropping like flies!
Lots of things we find in the early church period are missing today, and it has nothing to do with us. Nothing. The Corinthians were a mess and had full operation of the sign gifts. FULL! Despite their sins.
Lots of ginning up in the flesh goes on to duplicate eras that are not ours today.
Amoris laetitiae is a disgusting slap on face of the clear teaching of St John Paul II, not to mention Our Lord and St. Paul. What depressing times for the Church!
As long as Nancy Pelosi and Tim Kaine are served Communion, how can the Church deny it to anyone else?
I had my first marriage annulled. I can’t receive communion because my husband will not help me with his first marriage needing to be annulled too. He is nonbaptized and could care less about church etc. The person who was supposed to help me (my advocate) with the process finally said I had the option to receive communion using my own reasoning. I still don’t after almost three years.
You are blind. Our entire civilization is crumbling in our folly and impiety.
Lots of things we find in the early church period are missing today, and it has nothing to do with us. Nothing.
You see what you want to see, not what is.
Mark
Bottom line:
Too many people have found themselves in your situation...abandoned by a spouse and divorced through no fault or desire of your own.
And most of those have no desire to play the Annulment Game. So they go off and remarry, and start attending some other Church, where they typically tithe.
THAT is the rub to the Vatican. Mass attendance and membership in the Church are cratering, which is hitting the collection basket in a big way.
They are desperate to bring those people back, along with their weekly contributions. THAT is what’s driving this IMHO.
I could say the same for Bergoglio.
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