Posted on 08/25/2016 7:14:46 AM PDT by Salvation
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And every rhetorical question begs a thousand answers.
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The cultural equivalent?
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As commonly preached and understood ... yes
Unless the question or statement was essentially yes / no
The Bible CAN be used for prayer, besides the Psalms, for example there is the “Song of Moses” which is often is sung on Holy Saturday eve to Easter. That is one example.
According to our view, they had Catholic priests from the Pentecost.
But not all writers or teachers on prayer are priests. Catherine of Siena, Teresa of Avila, Julian of Norwich couldn’t pass the physical.
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and yet many of those in the Upper Room for Pentecost were also women...and the Holy Spirit fell on them also (just like the men...)
oh dear they were eligible to be Catholic priests after all...
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the Mormons require us to do “further reading” also...
they insist on Joey Smith’s book of mormon...
But even in prayer there is time wasted “reinventing the wheel.”
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again...you mentioned Pentecost...
there is never a wasted prayer if it is prayed in (unknown) tongues...
also anytime we call on God He listens...
He would rather listen to a red neck who has a ghastly accent and stumbles over the words trying to express himself but loves God, than the pope with all his perfect languages and pronunciations...and written directions..
Who is talking about we NEED to know? Not me?
“MY reference is to YOUR reference to a book a man wrote, NOT what the scripture says ...”
And you’re still denying Jesus. Jesus taught us how to pray to the Father. You wrote: “I don’t need a book describing, explaining or teaching me how to talk to my Dad .. !”
Luke’s gospel shows Jesus describing, explaining, and teaching how to talk to His Father. Thus, by your own logic, you don’t need Luke’s Gospel.
“Use your God given brain to parse your own language !”
My language doesn’t need parsing.
“Protestants may ... but believers don’t.”
And there you’re saying that Protestants aren’t believers.
“Jesus NEVER said; “Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread and forgive us our sins for we ourselves forgive everyone in debt to us, and do not subject us to the final test.” (Luke 11:1-13).” NEVER”
Luke says He did. Luke was inspired. You’re not. Luke wins.
“It had nothing to do with anything.”
Your posts rarely do.
Changing the subject and assuming what I did not say.
Yes, in a way I do. The Bible does not, by itself, teach you everything you need to know about being a spouse or a parent. It does not teach you everything you need to know about HOW to put up with the one person in the group who ruins things for everyone else.
Like “complete” the word “need” has slight differences in meaning for different applications or contexts.
It gets my attention that people mostly tall about prayer as though it were nothing but us telling God stuff. But that may not be all it is. And people respond to Monsignor Pope’s article as though he were saying that one sort of prayer was more likely to be heard than another.
I don’t know what he thinks, but I doubt he thinks that God is hard of hearing.
Tell you what: if you don’t think a book on prayer would help you in any way, don’t read it.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
I am not protesting anything
Yes, it does teach you everything you NEED to know.
What it doesn't tell you is all the answers to the want to know questions.
And much of what is needed to know about being a good spouse is not labeled under the heading of *spouse*. There are things that make a good spouse that are covered in the teachings of Jesus and the apostles that are part of the *one another's*.
And of course, Proverbs is a treasure house of stuff for getting along with people.
Don’t know much about Mormons. Never had the occasion to care. I will read the recommended book, though. Sounds interesting.
I believe you are wrong.
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