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If You’re Looking for a Book on Prayer, Get This One First
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 08-24-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 08/25/2016 7:14:46 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: metmom
You GO, mom !

/8^)

41 posted on 08/25/2016 8:57:00 AM PDT by knarf
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To: metmom

look at my #9 and follow on .... this is fun


42 posted on 08/25/2016 8:57:59 AM PDT by knarf
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To: editor-surveyor

I think the question was rhetorical


43 posted on 08/25/2016 8:59:50 AM PDT by knarf
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To: metmom

oops ... my #24 ... not 9


44 posted on 08/25/2016 9:00:39 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

Amen!


45 posted on 08/25/2016 9:03:53 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: Salvation; Mark17; metmom
THAT'S the same juxtaposition Vlad attempted in #9

Do you guys go to the same school .... wait ..... I forgot ....

Yeah, y'DO

46 posted on 08/25/2016 9:10:23 AM PDT by knarf
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To: Mad Dawg

The disciples to the LORD Jesus Christ “Lord, please teach us HOW TO PRAY (just as John taught his disciples)”

Jesus said to them, “When you pray, say: “’Father, hallowed be Your name, Your kingdom come. Your will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven. Give us each day our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation.’”

Then, teaching them more about prayer, He used this story:

Luke 11:1-5a (The Bible)

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Dontcha think if Jesus teaches you something, you wouldn’t need any other teacher ???

Do you also have a writer who can improve on the plan of salvation as God designed it ???


47 posted on 08/25/2016 9:41:18 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: karnage

well if the Catholic priest thinks that why doesn’t he just say “Read the Bible” ???


48 posted on 08/25/2016 9:45:00 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Monsignor had a question and answer thing for comments at the bottom of his column.

Why don’t you ask him your questions?


49 posted on 08/25/2016 9:53:49 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tennessee Nana

John 21:25

Do we have the COMPLETE teaching? The Bible suggests we don’t.

We don’t have a writer, there cannot be a writer who would improve on the plan of salvation. However people have questions and problems with which their friends along the way can help them.

And there are the different forms of service of which Paul gives examples in 1 Cor. 12:9-10 and Eph. 4:11. Shepherds and teachers ... which suggests that feeding, tending, guiding, and instruction continue after the Ascension and Pentecost.

So I don’t think it’s a slam dunk that there’s no place for guidance in prayer or any other aspect of our walk with Christ.


50 posted on 08/25/2016 9:57:51 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: Salvation

why don’t we all just ask God ???


51 posted on 08/25/2016 9:58:28 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Mad Dawg

Gee how on Earth did our Christian ancestors manage without this Catholic priest to help them ???

how on Earth did they do it with just the Bible...

BTW you said the magic BVDs words “the Bible is incomplete”

youre a Mormon aren’t you ???


52 posted on 08/25/2016 10:03:13 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Nope. I’m a Catholic. I quoted the Bible.

According to our view, they had Catholic priests from the Pentecost.

But not all writers or teachers on prayer are priests. Catherine of Siena, Teresa of Avila, Julian of Norwich couldn’t pass the physical.

Who said those without spiritual helpers couldn’t make it? But even in prayer there is time wasted “reinventing the wheel.”

By the way, I try to avoid snide conversations. They don’t meet any need I am aware of having.


53 posted on 08/25/2016 10:41:57 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I think he is assuming the Bible; this would come under the heading of “further reading.”


54 posted on 08/25/2016 10:53:39 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Salvation

Ironically someone recommended this book to me a few months ago and I didn’t pay much attention. Just ordered it at half.com for 13 bucks and change.


55 posted on 08/25/2016 11:03:43 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Missing you /johnny (JRandomFreeper).)
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To: Tennessee Nana

And the guy who wrote the book is a layman.


56 posted on 08/25/2016 11:44:31 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: vladimir998

It had nothing to do with anything.


57 posted on 08/25/2016 12:13:35 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: knarf
Protestants may ... but believers don’t.

True, that.

The distinction escapes the vast majority of Catholics.

58 posted on 08/25/2016 12:15:10 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mad Dawg
Do we have the COMPLETE teaching? The Bible suggests we don’t.

No, it suggests that not everything Jesus did was written down, not that we had incomplete teaching.

On the contrary, it tells us this....

2 Timothy 3:14-17 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

Show us where anyone in Scripture tells us that it is not complete and that we need other sources to teach us things God neglected to include in the Bible.

Do you really think that He WOULDN'T include everything we needed to know?

59 posted on 08/25/2016 12:18:59 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation

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Everything that Yehova wants us to know about prayer is in his word.

The writings of others is just personal speculation.


60 posted on 08/25/2016 12:21:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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