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Pope Francis to Youth: God Prefers Us to be Sinful and Weak
Manhound's Paradise ^ | July 30, 2016 | Manhound

Posted on 07/30/2016 2:33:20 PM PDT by ebb tide

Yes, Bergoglio said this to young people, many of whom are wrestling with all sorts of temptations right now.

For the record, saying God wants us to be morally weak is a vicious and damnable lie.

From Catholic News Agency: God prefers us weak, Pope Francis says off-the-cuff to youth Krakow, Poland, Jul 30, 2016 / 09:28 am (CNA/EWTN News).- The weaker we are, the more God's mercy can transform our lives. Pope Francis made these impromptu remarks on Saturday to crowds of young people gathered outside of Krakow’s St. John Paul II shrine. “Today, the Lord wants us to feel ever more profoundly his great mercy,” the Pope said in a short, impromptu speech, delivered right after his visit to the Polish city’s Divine Mercy shrine. “May we never turn away from Jesus!” Pope Francis shared these thoughts to a group of young people who are in Poland for World Youth Day moments before entering the St. John Paul II shrine to pass through its Holy Door, hear confessions, and celebrate Mass for priests and religious men and women. We may think that we are the “worst” on account of our sins and weaknesses, the Pope told the youth. However, this is how God prefers us to be, in order that “his mercy may spread.” “Let us take advantage of these days to receive all of the mercy of Jesus!” Read the rest here:

Edit: Ilíon, in the comments below, reminds us of Romans 6, 1-2: What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: falsemercy; francischurch; sin
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To: miss marmelstein

This is a pan-Christian concern and it really is one of those “depends on what we mean” things.

IF this means, don’t try to be “righteous” and “strong” in your own flesh, nothing righter could be said.

If it means despair that God could ever help you improve, this is wrong.

Another question here would be what kind of God do we mean. We are not speaking of a disinterested philosopher here.


21 posted on 07/30/2016 4:14:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I suspect the intended meaning is that God does not like it when we try to be strong independent of him, but instead prefers it when we rely on him for strength.


22 posted on 07/30/2016 4:19:20 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

I suspect that this pope is a freak. Notice I won’t capitalize ‘Pope’.


23 posted on 07/30/2016 4:33:47 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: RoosterRedux

What is the Poop going on about this time?


24 posted on 07/30/2016 4:38:30 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Admin Moderator; Religion Mod; Jim Robinson

Which moderator cropped this article? And why?

“We may think that we are the “worst” on account of our sins and weaknesses, the Pope told the youth. However, this is how God prefers us to be, in order that “his mercy may spread.”


25 posted on 07/30/2016 5:24:22 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I’m Catholic and I can freely say this pope is totally off the Rez.


26 posted on 07/30/2016 5:27:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Religion Moderator; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
My apologies to all. I just realized that my #1 comment violated caucus rules.

Mea culpa.

27 posted on 07/30/2016 5:30:56 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Jesus wants us to “go and sin no more.”


30 posted on 07/30/2016 5:52:25 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: ebb tide

The body of the thread is exactly as you posted it.

Would you like the thread pulled?


31 posted on 07/30/2016 6:24:35 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Innovative

How about this one:

“Now you have a duty to stay up all night and make chaos.”

Is that the greatest pick-up line of all time, or what?


32 posted on 07/30/2016 6:49:35 PM PDT by opus1 (This is all getting rather confusing.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Did watched the replayed prayer vigil last night and yes, once again Pope Francis did say about the need to “build bridges, not walls”. Not surprised at all by what he said.


33 posted on 07/31/2016 3:32:11 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: miss marmelstein

Comment number one got ALREADY??

Dang!


34 posted on 07/31/2016 4:31:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Hi, Whitey! West or South? I’m still can’t make up my mind.


35 posted on 07/31/2016 9:46:25 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: ebb tide

It happened to me two weeks ago. Stuff happens!


36 posted on 07/31/2016 9:47:58 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: ebb tide
So much for:

Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.- Jesus

37 posted on 07/31/2016 10:45:59 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: miss marmelstein
Go West, Young Woman!

True, our barbeque isn't as good out here.

But you can see the Zombies coming for miles from the top of Crazy Peak!

38 posted on 07/31/2016 3:50:02 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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